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ECS 2014 Press Event: LIVE, LIVA, LEAD, L337

Manufacturer: ECS

LIVA Mini PC kit

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The center piece of ECS' presentation was their LIVA Mini PC kit. The LIVA kit fits in the palm of your hand when assembled with several configurations available to fit your computing needs. It is designed around an all-in-one PC with an integrated Intel Bay-Trail-M processor, 2GB of DDR3L memory, 32GB / 64GB eMMC SSD, several USB 2.0/3.0 ports, video ports, and a Gigabit NIC, as well as 802.11n-based Wi-Fi and Bluetooth support. Not to mention its 15 watt power requirements under full load. Did I mention its fan-less as well?

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The LIVA form factor opens up many interesting avenues for ECS with its uncompromising power even with its minimal power requirements. The LIVA mini PC is a truly portable system, able to be powered from an external battery module that you would normally use to recharge your tablet or cell phone on the run.

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As far as its viability as a personal use or business system, ECS used a LIVA to run the presentation during the press event, connecting it to a project through the built-in VGA port and using a Lenovo keyboard/mouse pointer device for control.

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The LIVA's guts are embedded in a two-part plastic case that is easy to put together and take apart as well.

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All system components are integrated into the system PCB with the CMOS battery and PCIe WI-FI card on the PCB's bottom to save on space. Unfortunately, the PCIe slot on the bottom of the board will not work with MSATA type drives, so you cannot expand the internal hard drive space of the device.

September 12, 2014 | 12:43 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Just wish it would be on the latest AMD chipset. I can't really see the Baytrail performance to be enough. The latest A10 Micro-6700T​ would have been a better fit in my opinion or the AMD A6-6310 if the temperatures were really good.

September 12, 2014 | 12:59 PM - Posted by JohnGR

A roadmap has leaked showing one AMD model in 2015

That is if Intel does not $$$ convince $$$ them by then to stay Intel only.

September 12, 2014 | 04:24 PM - Posted by Morry Teitelman

Per comments from staff at the event, that AMD model is only a possibility right now, nothing concrete regardless of any Intel influence...

September 12, 2014 | 06:21 PM - Posted by JohnGR

I am pretty sure every Intel on that roadmap is concrete and not a possibility. Regardless AMD influence.

(I am just talking to myself here shaking my head seeing the same picture for the last 12 years, NO irony/sarcasm pointing at you)

September 12, 2014 | 09:59 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Intel is up to its old tricks again, too bad the Antitrust authorities in the US are so ineffectual! AMD is getting pushed out of the x86 competition by the Contra Revenue, and the other Intel monopoly tactics that are anything but fair in the marketplace. Hopefully AMD will get some ISA relief with its custom ARMv8 based APUs, but the lack of many OEM systems built around AMD's x86, in the low power x86 market needs to be looked into.

AMD should consider building reference design Nano sized socketed motherboards that can be used in these systems with their own designed cases, with the ability to upgrade the APU, as well as the memory, with options for an internal power supply, as well as external. A nice system of products, and cases, so the home builder can make their own with AMD. Maybe AMD can introduce a Project SkyBridge, type of nano motherboard that can utilize both AMDs ARM, and x86 based APUs, for the hobbyist/experimenter, and others, with just the swapping of the APU, no worries, it's all pin compatible, the BIOS will just sense and auto-configure. I'll bet the AMD graphics will be better than Intel's on both ARM, and AMD's x86 SKUs, let's see Intel Match a system that can run both ARM, and x86, with just the swapping of the SOC/APU. AMD needs to get its
"K12"/whatever custom ARM core in the game to compete with Nvidia's K1, and graphics will be one of Intel's weaknesses, especially in the low cost SKUs with acceptable graphics category.

September 13, 2014 | 01:07 PM - Posted by QD (not verified)

Too bad AMD can't make better CPUs and get Intel running scared again. You need to understand customers- which includes companies- need to be confident in the company as well as the product. Even with the video boards, AMD's fundamentals are pretty shaky- they are heavily in debt with a pretty big PE. If they have to keep divesting to stay afloat, they may soon just be a sales office for third party chip makers.

September 14, 2014 | 10:41 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Why AMD's SeaMicro server division, is making money selling servers based on Xeon processors(IF the customer requests it), as well a AMD's Opterons(Arm, and x86) based. There are those SMBs that do not have Google style wallets, and will do fine with Opterons, at a much more affordable cost! This need to be #1 in speed for server SKUs, is not so important in the enterprise IT market, and Intel's number #1, also includes #1 in overpricing! The SMBs out there have a use for AMD products, that do not break the bank! The bean counters will decide what the budget can afford, for the SMBs. AMD has a good thing going with that ambidextrous strategy, of giving servers, and the consumer, ARM and x86 SKUs, that can be utilized on the same infrastructure, with just a swap of a CPU/APU in the same motherboard socket. Having servers that can be switched out from x86, to ARM, at the drop of a Die into a socket, will give the users great flexibility, and save millions, with dual purpose motherboards, that can be configured as low power using ARM based, or x86 based, for better workload granularity(low power webpage serving, or Higher power data analytics).

AMD is working on its custom ARM K12, and a new x86 microarchitecture, so they are not totally out of the game, and expect ARM based products to grab a slice of the server market, in workloads where x86 is not necessary, and do expect that SeaMicro's server products will also be using Power8 based products, once the Non made for IBM, Power8 come to market in 2015, if SeaMicro will sell Xeon based Kit, they will sell Power8 based Kit, and make AMD money, Rory Read spent 23 years at IBM, he will let AMD's SeaMicro division make money with any server SKU, whatever the customer requests, and IBM will back anyone up that chooses Power8, look at the money IBM is throwing into Linux on Power8's, I'm sure the Rory is having meetings with his old employer, and is seriously looking at a Power8 license.
AMD is not just in the x86 market, anymore, expect the investment in ARM based systems to pay off for AMD, Apple is doing great with the Phone/Tablets system based on custom ARM ISA based SOCs, and dwarfing Intel in profits doing so. Expect Apple to be looking at Power8 also, Apple is not afraid of a little ISA/microarchitecture switch, if it means money for Apple, AMD provides the GPUs for the Mac Pro!

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