More Threadripper waterblocks, including an unfamiliar name

Subject: Cases and Cooling | September 19, 2017 - 03:59 PM |
Tagged: XSPC, water cooler, Threadripper, RayStorm Neo, Bykski, amd, A-RYZEN-Th-X

[H]ard|OCP have been hard at work testing a variety of Threadripper compatible AIO watercoolers, sometimes with their own adapters as these products are very new.  They just revisited the XSPC RayStorm Neo which performed exceptionally and also note that the retail version will not feature mounting for AM4 processors.  The second waterblock they tested was the Bykski A-RYZEN-Th-X, not a familiar name but also a very effective choice for cooling ThreadRipper processors.  Take a look at the testing process as well as their recommended methods for properly spreading thermal paste on AMD's new big silicon.

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"We have been waiting for AMD Threadripper CPU custom cooling parts to make their way to us. We have our first two purpose-built Threadripper waterblocks from XSPC and Bykski. We put both these coolers to the test with our 4GHz overclocked Threadripper in hour long stress tests to see how our temperatures fare."

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Threadripper cooler on an AM4 socket? Yes, you can!

Subject: Cases and Cooling | September 12, 2017 - 02:57 PM |
Tagged: amd, Threadripper, ryzen 7, AM4, XSPC RayStorm

The question is if installing the XSPC RayStorm Threadripper waterblock on an AM4 actually improves your systems thermals.  [H]ard|OCP tested out the difficulty of the installation process and the performance of the cooler on a Ryzen 7 1700X overclocked to 4GHz.  The mounting worked exactly as advertised, mating perfectly with the AM4 processor; the performance on the other hand demonstrates the advantage of using coolers specifically designed for your processor.

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"If you could mount your Threadripper custom cooling waterblock on your socket AM4 Ryzen 7 CPU, wouldn't you? Of course the answer is yes. However, the results turned out a bit different than we thought those might."

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Sixth of its name, the new CM MasterCase Pro

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 29, 2017 - 03:11 PM |
Tagged: coolermaster, MasterCase Pro 6

The MasterCase Pro 5 was released a few years back which is why it is time for a MasterCase Pro 6 review.  CoolerMaster kept the modular design, making the installation of fans or radiators much easier as well as allowing you to remove drive cages you do not require.  The difference between this model and its predecessor are the design of the top and front panels, the similarity is the slightly imperfect mating of various parts of the case.  The Tech Report did still find the case easy to work with, take a closer look here to see if its style matches yours.

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"Cooler Master's MasterCase Pro 6 puts a sharp new face on the company's tried-and-true modular chassis. We popped in our test system to see whether this case's pop-out vents are a cool new idea in case design."

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Is be quiet's Pure Power 600W PSU a 10?

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 25, 2017 - 06:03 PM |
Tagged: be quiet!, modular psu, 600w, Pure Power 10, 80 PLUS Silver

Kilowatt class PSUs such as the Seasonic PRIME Platinum which Lee just reviewed are impressive and up to the task of powering the most powerful of systems but for most they are overkill.  For the majority of us, something in a 600W model will be sufficient for our needs as well as being more efficient.  A little while back [H]ard|OCP took a look at be quiet's Pure Power 10 600W 80 PLUS Silver modular PSU, the first be quiet! to meet their benchmarking table.  It operated quietly and it was handsomely built, however once they started testing the PSU simply could not take the heat.  If you live somewhere which never reaches 30C ambient this might be an acceptable solution but for the rest of us ... the review reveals a significant issue.

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"This may come as a shock to you, but be quiet! power supplies are all about...wait for it...exceptionally quiet operation. However that is not the only virtue the Pure Power 10 series extols. be quiet tells us that this PP10 has "peerless dependability" and "best-in-class features." Let's see if we can set it on fire!"

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The Enermax LIQMAX II 240 shunts away 250W of TDP

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 18, 2017 - 02:14 PM |
Tagged: LIQMAX II 240, enermax, AIO

Enermax's LIQMAX AIO cooler has not received a lot of attention, in the case of [H]ard|OCP they were less than impressed with the choice to locate the fan controller on the hub.  The second generation has remedied that issue by moving the switch to the side of the fans which makes it much more convenient when you need to adjust it.  They also praise the evolution of the mounting brackets which have become easier to install with every new generation, though on a Threadripper you will still need to use AMD's bracket to install the LIQMAX II.  Overall, the performance exceeded their expectations, for an $80 AIO solution it is quite effective albeit somewhat loud on the highest setting.  Drop by for a look at their full review.

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"Enermax is extremely proud of its Liqmax II 240 CPU AIO cooler. It is one of the few coolers you will find that it proudly displays its TDP rating right on the front of the box, which happens to be "350W+." With its Batwing fan blades, ceramic bearing pump, and Shunt-Channel-Technology it is a sure winner, right? Let's find out."

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Lian Li’s new PC-Q39 tempered glass Mini-ITX (wide) tower

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 16, 2017 - 06:21 PM |
Tagged: tempered glass, PC-Q39, mini-itx, Lian Li

Lian Li have released an upgrade to the PC-Q37 with the new mini-ITX PC-Q39 with tempered glass side panel and a larger internal volume.  The aluminium case will be large enough to fit a three slot GPU, with the extra width allowing a separated second chamber to house an ATX PSU of up to 160mm. 

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In addition to the PSU there is space for a pump and reservoir for watercooling as well as mounting points for two 3.5” and one 2.5” drive, allowing you to configure an unobstructed view of your components and he almost mandatory RGB LED lightshow which they produce.  If you do chose to watercool, a radiator of up to 240mm can be mounted at the top while the bottom of the case will accommodate two 120mm fans or a single 140 fan.

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The front panel has a minimalist design, the various connectors have been moved to the top of the case.  There is now a USB 3.1 Type-C plug in addition to two USB 3.1 plugs, audio jacks and a power button.  The shield at the top of the case is removable to make it easier to mount your fans or radiator as well as making it easy to clean. 

The MSRP is $210 and it is available now at NewEgg and other fine retailers.

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Click for the full PR.

Source: Lian Li

EK's Threadripper Supremacy EVO water blocks

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 11, 2017 - 05:45 PM |
Tagged: X399, watercooling, Threadripper, EK Supremacy EVO, amd

EK Waterblocks have announced the EK Supremacy EVO full cover waterblock and cold plate for the new AMD Threadripper processors.  You have your choice of Nickel, Acetal and Nickel or Full Nickel models, depending on your preference.

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You can order it now, they will not start shipping until August 18th and EK will be honouring preorders first, if that is your type of thing.  The Supremacy EVO will be large enough to cover the entire heatspreader on the Threadripper so you will not need adapters or various interesting techniques to make sure your new processor will stay cool.  Inside are 52 grooves with a spacing of 0.25mm apart, making use of that extra space.  Hopefully we will soon receive some for testing; at least Morry certainly hopes so!

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If you like asymmetry then Fractal Design has your case

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 11, 2017 - 02:27 PM |
Tagged: fractal design, meshify c

It may not be obvious from the one picture but the front facing of the Meshify C has an interesting pattern while the mesh on the top and bottom of the case remain flat.  That should give you a unique look without interfering with the stability of the case.  As with many newer cases the PSU is installed at the bottom of the case, with a shroud separating it from the rest of the system.  The tempered glass side panel does not add much to the cost, the MSRP of $89.99 is quite reasonable for a case such as this.  Check out how it looks with components installed over at Benchmark Reviews.

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"When Fractal Design offered up yet another, as-of-yet unannounced product to add to their lineup my curiosity was piqued. What else could they possibly have in store? All I had was a product name: the Meshify C. I could hazard a few guesses as to the nature of this new case: ATX, based on the Define C no doubt, with a dressing of mesh – perhaps an Arc Midi successor? Follow along as Benchmark Reviews investigates this new direction from Fractal Design."

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I Think They're Big Fans of AMD Threadripper and EPYC... Noctua Announces Three New Coolers.

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 3, 2017 - 08:41 PM |
Tagged: noctua, amd, Threadripper, EPYC

Noctua has announced three new heatsinks for AMD’s new high-end CPU platforms, Threadripper and EPYC. If you’ve been following the company, or Morry’s motherboard reviews, then you know that these coolers are huge (and effective).

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Apparently the main difference is the contact surface, 70mm x 56mm, to accommodate for the processor’s large package. AMD connects multiple dies together with their Infinity Fabric, which means a huge total surface area. The cooler comes in three sizes, corresponding to the fan that’s intended to be used with it: 140mm (NH-U14S TR4-SP3), 120mm (NH-U12S TR4-SP3), and 92mm (NH-U9S TR4-SP3).

The two “smallest” sizes, NH-U12S and NH-U9S, are both expected to retail for $69.90 USD, so I guess choose whichever makes the most sense for your system. The largest one, the NH-U14S, is $10 more expensive at $79.90 USD. They should be available by the end of the month.

Source: Noctua

FSP releases a trio of Platinum PSUs

Subject: Cases and Cooling | August 2, 2017 - 01:30 PM |
Tagged: FSP Group, modular psu, 750w, 650W, 550W, Hydro PTM, 80 Plus Platinum

FSP Group have just released three new 80 Plus Platinum Hydro PTM modular PSUs, in 750W, 650W and 550W models.  The Hydro branding comes from the fluid dynamic bearings in the 135mm fan which they have optimized for quiet operation.

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The 750W model has a pair of 4+4 power plugs for X299 users, the other two models will not though all will use ribbon cables to help you with cable management.  Internally you will find Japanese industrial grade electrolytic caps and a single 12V rail which will provide higher quality power than multiple rail designs.   All models will come with a 10 year warranty.

PR below the fold.

Source: FSP Group

NZXT Kraken X62, X52 and X61 compatible with AMD Ryzen Threadripper

Subject: Cases and Cooling | July 31, 2017 - 01:49 PM |
Tagged: nzxt, kraken, Kraken X62, Kraken X52, Kraken X61, Threadripper, amd

NZXT has announced that their three popular AiO watercoolers, the Kraken X62, Kraken X52, and Kraken X61 will be compatible with Threadripper, arriving soon to retailers.   

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NZXT has been working with AMD and created an adapter for SocketTR4 to allow you to use their cooler in your new system.  The retention clip will be supplied by AMD, in the package the new CPUs.  This is a good thing, considering the unique new way in which you install Threadripper processors.  If you haven't seen the video demonstrating the installation process you can see it below.

 

Source: NZXT

Build your own watercooling loop with the EKWB L360 2.0 Kit

Subject: Cases and Cooling | July 24, 2017 - 02:34 PM |
Tagged: watercooler, EKWB, EK-KIT

EKWB's L360 2.0 Kit is a ~$250 pre-compiled watercooling kit which includes a EK-Supremacy MX waterblock, EK-CoolStream PE 360mm radiator with three EK-Vardar F3-120mm fans, EK-XRES 100 DDC MX 3.1 PWM pump and reservoir, 2m of tubing plus compression fittings and a container of EK-Ekoolant EVO Clear coolant concentrate, good for 1l of coolant once diluted. All you need to do is assemble the kit and install it in your system.  Modders-Inc did just that, the installation process was enjoyable and far more effective than air cooling.  If you did plan to add in a GPU waterblock EKWB recommends adding in another radiator which should make your cooling even more effective. 

Check out the full review here.

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"EKWB has been in watercooling since its meager beginnings in 1999. Every package, every kit, every block advancing the genre of watercooling. As the critical mass for watercooling began to grow, and the knowledge barrier for putting these kits into your system began to fall, companies have been putting together pre-compiled kits of components to make it easier on the …"

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Source: Modders Inc

CRYORIG's A40; two heads are better than one?

Subject: Cases and Cooling | July 21, 2017 - 03:49 PM |
Tagged: CRYORIG, CRYORIG A40, AIO, water cooler

The CRYORIG A40 is not a new cooler but its unique design is worth revisiting for those who have forgotten about its existence.  Instead of having a single area in which to dump heat, the pump assembly mounted to the CPU also has its own fan.  That fan did not not noticeably decrease the CPU temperatures when TechPowerUp tested it, however for SFF systems and other builds with components which could benefit from airflow inside the case that fan is more than just a gimmick.  Check out the full review here.

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"The A40 by CRYORIG is the company's entry level offering in their all-in-one hybrid liquid CPU cooler lineup. It lacks the size of the A80 and the radiator thickness of the A40 Ultimate. However, unlike the others, it offers a more affordable price point with all the same features."

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Source: TechPowerUp

Thermaltake's $25 Contac Silent 12 heatsink for Ryzen

Subject: Cases and Cooling | July 14, 2017 - 03:15 PM |
Tagged: thermaltake, Contac Silent 12, ryzen, AM4, amd, heatsink, air cooler

Thermaltake has a new cooler for those planning a Ryzen build on a budget, or for quiet system builds.  The Contac Silent 12 is a mere 153x12x100.3mm in size, with the fan attached, and weighs a paltry 700g however it is capable of almost matching the performance of AMD's Wraith cooler while operating at a noticeably quieter level.  In addition to the heatsink you will find a 'low-noise cable' which changes the fans RPM span from 500-1500 RPM to 400-1100 RPM however in their tests The Tech Report found it had little effect on the noise produced by a system under load.  See the full results here.

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"Thermaltake's Contac Silent 12 relies on an established design and a simple mounting system to get AMD Socket AM4 builders up and running as quickly as possible. We tested this cooler at stock and overclocked speeds to see how it stacks up for just $25."

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MSI gets into the CPU heatsink business big time, the Core Frozr XL

Subject: Cases and Cooling | July 5, 2017 - 03:38 PM |
Tagged: ryzen, msi, Core Frozr XL

The MSI Core Frozr XL is not the first CPU heatsink to come out of that company but it is the largest, 150.4x170.0x129.8mm in size and a hair short of 2kg with the included fans.  The fancy plastic shrouds over the fans also act as the mounting point for the fans and can be adjusted to provide a little more clearance for tall DIMMs though it is still going to be a tight squeeze.  As the cooler is designed for AMD's new Ryzen chips, as well as some legacy chips, Neoseeker tested it against AMD's Wraith cooler and the AiO Ryzen cooler.  The MSI heatsink did much better at load, however when the system was idle the bundled coolers were a little better; though how often is your system on and idling anyways? 

Check out this RGBeast here.

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"The totally massive MSI Core Frozr XL benefits from a large nickel-plated copper thermal plate to quickly pull the heat away from the CPU. The heat then transfers from the thermal baseplate into the eight 6mm SuperPipes, which move the heat upward to the large aluminum dissipation fin array that can dissipate up to 250W of heat. Lastly, the two MSI 120mm Torx fans push-pull the heat away from all of that thermal mass and out of the computer case."

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Source: Neoseeker

Gamers Nexus Talks Mining with AIB and PSU Vendors

Subject: Graphics Cards, Cases and Cooling | July 5, 2017 - 07:01 AM |
Tagged: supply shortage, shortage, ethereum, cryptocurrency

The cryptocurrency craze is kind-of like the old gold rush. Tokens are just out there waiting to be discovered, and value is applied when people trade it in exchange for goods and services. In this case, these tokens are discovered by doing math, and faster computers acquire more, and the algorithm is quite parallel. Some of the non-Bitcoin currencies are gaining traction, and becoming economically viable to mind with off-the-shelf parts, so gaming parts are being sold out... and not to gamers.

What do the video card add-in board (AIB) partners (as in the companies that take GPUs from NVIDIA and AMD and attach them to things that will actually plug into a motherboard) think of this? Gamers Nexus reached out to a bunch of them and, off the record, got a bunch of responses. The fifteen-minute video is quite interesting, and covers a lot of issues like brand loyalty, the second-hand market flooding, and RMA abuse. It even talks about the abnormal stress the GPU mining could have on power supplies. Most of the responses make sense, but it’s interesting to hear it coming from people in the industry, even if “who specifically said what” has been anonymized.

Of course, this is for the best, because you'll get more candid responses that way.

Seasonic's PRIME series of PSUs goes Platinum

Subject: Cases and Cooling | June 26, 2017 - 06:32 PM |
Tagged: Seasonic PRIME, 850W, 80 Plus Platinum, modular psu

It was almost a year ago that Lee reviewed the Seasonic PRIME 750W Titanium PSU; today it is [H]ard|OCP who has a review of a cousin of that PSU.  The Seasonic PRIME 850W Platinum PSU is a new addition to the PRIME family, bearing the same 12 year warranty as its relatives as well as the single 12V rail design and physical Hybrid button.  As [H] have already reviewed the previous 850W PRIME model, the newcomer has some big shoes to fill.  It comes very close to doing so, as you can see in their full review.

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"As is usual, Seasonic talks softly and carries a big stick. The biggest stick lately has been its Prime series power supplies. Today's Prime comes to us touting excellent efficiency, a fully modular design, tight output voltage, and a quiet noise profile supplied by a fluid dynamic bearing fan. Does Seasonic continue its current reign?"

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FSP embraces summer with new heatsinks like the Windale 6

Subject: Cases and Cooling | June 22, 2017 - 03:06 PM |
Tagged: FSP Group, windale 6

FSP Group are more commonly known for their PSUs, recently they have branched out into other components including heatsinks.  [H]ard|OCP had a chance to test out their Windale 6 cooler, which sounds oddly familiar.  The cooling performance was somewhat better than a stock cooler and noticeably quieter, but overclockers may want to look elsewhere.  The cooler stands 122x110x160mm and sports a 120mm fan however the mounting solution presented some challenges.  Drop by for the details.

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"FSP is a very new brand when it comes to CPU air coolers and is entering a market that is highly competitive and seeded with others that have been designing air coolers for quite some time. Its Windale 6 cooler features six direct contact heatpipes, a 120mm fan, and what FSP says is an "optimized fin design." But does it cool?"

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Corsair's Crystal Series 570X, show off your temper

Subject: Cases and Cooling | June 15, 2017 - 01:34 PM |
Tagged: tempered glass, corsair, Crystal Series, 570x

It has been quite a while since Sebastian reviewed Corsair's Crystal Series 570X tempered glass case; so why not take another look?  Over at Techgage you can revist this case with a view.  They were impressed by the cooling included, three fans and a pre-installed fan hub for three more RGB fans as well as the air filter placements which help keep dust out of the case.  There is no equivalent feature to get fingerprints off of the glass front and sides so you will spend some time cleaning up your case.  Then again, if you are choosing a transparent enclosure, you likely spend a lot of time ensuring all your components are looking their best.

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"Corsair’s Crystal series is named as such because of its use of tempered glass, and as the top dog in the current lineup, the 570X sports that tempered glass on all four sides. Despite its delicate frame, the chassis proved great to build with, and as we found out, its beautiful aesthetics don’t hurt its cooling efficiency."

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Source: Techgage

Run softly and carry a big Scythe

Subject: Cases and Cooling | June 6, 2017 - 12:39 PM |
Tagged: scythe, Mugen 5, air cooler

Scythe's Mugen 5 has a bit of a list to one side, which is designed to give your RAM a little more breathing room and will fit on motherboards with very little clearance between the socket and the DIMMs.  At 890g and 130x110x154.5mm it is not the largest cooler on the market but is big enough to warrant attention when picking out a case to install your system in.  [H]ard|OCP's tests show this cooler to be more focused the audibility of the cooler than topping the cooling charts, heavy overclockers will be better served by a different cooler but those building a quiet system should check out the full review.

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"The Mugen 5 is one of the larger CPU air coolers you will find on the market, and with that is has an "asymmetric design for maximum memory compatibility," so it does not extend deep into DIMM territory. The polished copper baseplate, as well as the rest of the HSF is nickel plated. Also we have a newly engineered mounting mechanism."

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