CES 2018: Intel Launches Optane 800P M.2 2280 SSDs, 60/120GB Capacities

Subject: Storage, Shows and Expos | January 9, 2018 - 07:32 PM |
Tagged: XPoint, Optane, Intel, CES 2018, CES, 800p, 60GB, 3D XPoint, 120gb

Intel broke news just now that they will be launching a larger version of their 16/32GB Optane Memory modules. The new 800P looks very much the same as its little brother but is designed to operate as a sole boot SSD. Mobile applications are also possible now as the 800P includes power management features that the Optane Memory modules lacked (as they were not intended for mobile).

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We are under embargo as far as performance goes, but from what we know about how Optane parts scale, it's a safe bet that performance will be very close to what we've seen out of the Optane Memory parts. Warranty will be 5 years with an endurance of ~200GB per day. No word on cost at this time. Overall these though fit nicely between Optane Memory (16/32GB) and the 900P (280/480+GB) capacity points.

The elephant in the room is the capacity. While these can store more than the 16/32GB variants, 60/120GB may not be enough for most users out there. Fortunately, devices like these are great in Zx70 RAID or even VROC configurations!


January 9, 2018 | 07:41 PM - Posted by Ron D. (not verified)

VROC has been a bust. Only the 900p drives make it worth while and due to their form factor getting enough for RAID 5 or 10 isn't possible unless you are running a XEON/workstation platform.

Only way these would be worthwhile is if they were a minimum 128GB with performance near or at the 900p. Then you could use a Hyper x16 and make it semi-worthwhile.

January 10, 2018 | 12:03 AM - Posted by Allyn Malventano

Multiple 800P's in RAID could offer greater capacity and performance than a 900P, potentially at the same cost/GB.

January 10, 2018 | 04:51 AM - Posted by Dark_wizzie

Correct me if I'm wrong: Optane memory plugs into m.2 slot which has PCIE lanes through PCH no matter if it's Coffee Lake or Skylake X. Through PCH random reads don't improve that much with raid.

January 10, 2018 | 08:59 AM - Posted by psuedonymous

VROC on Skylake X is literally Virtual Raid on CPU. The lanes go to the CPU for that, not the PCH (if a mobo manufacturer links an m.2 slot to the PCH, that's an m.2 slot you cannot use for VROC).

January 9, 2018 | 07:41 PM - Posted by Anonymous3 (not verified)

CES 2108, eh?

January 9, 2018 | 11:55 PM - Posted by Allyn Malventano

I'm from the future!

January 9, 2018 | 09:11 PM - Posted by asdff (not verified)

PLEASE BE AT LEAST 7 CHANNELS

January 9, 2018 | 09:12 PM - Posted by asdff (not verified)

well from the look of that pcb, single sided.. probably 2-3 channels yet again.. sad. expecting like 1500/1000 MB/s read/write probably.

January 10, 2018 | 03:44 AM - Posted by dragosmp (not verified)

NTFS compression FTW

...since you know, no block write penalty

January 11, 2018 | 12:47 PM - Posted by asdf1 (not verified)

damn you're right, totally forgot about that

January 10, 2018 | 04:30 AM - Posted by Poro (not verified)

Can you use these to speed up a secondary drive? Or only primary? That's what make the lower capacity useless imho

January 10, 2018 | 07:06 AM - Posted by Juhani Suhonen (not verified)

well the performance is killed with meltdown patch which makes optanes as slow as standard ssd drives with 4k transfers :(

January 10, 2018 | 12:07 PM - Posted by Allyn Malventano

In my testing that doesn't seem so yet. There is a lot of back and forth about that right now, and I need to do additional testing when I get back from CES.

January 10, 2018 | 07:19 AM - Posted by John H (not verified)

Other sites are saying it's still only 2 pci-e lanes wide.. a little disappointing

January 10, 2018 | 08:08 AM - Posted by CB

Hmm, Allyn, can you confirm if these are PCI-E x2 or x4?

January 10, 2018 | 12:07 PM - Posted by Allyn Malventano

x2

January 11, 2018 | 12:49 PM - Posted by asdf1 (not verified)

Hey Allyn

theres been mentioning about a m.2 x4 optane module coming later shown in the roadmap, did you guys happen to see that roadmap and maybe take a picture show it to us?

January 10, 2018 | 11:10 AM - Posted by Gunbuster

Imagine a 2017 Ford Mustang GT with a three gallon fuel tank, now imagine a 2018 model with a 6 gallon tank! The fanfare!

January 10, 2018 | 04:02 PM - Posted by Toby Broom (not verified)

Hi Allyn,

Since there are boards with 2xM2 you could pair these with a more typical flash SSD? does this give a benift?

How does performance scale with 16,32,60,120GB?

Thsnks for insite

January 19, 2018 | 02:58 AM - Posted by Paul A. Mitchell (not verified)

If anyone is interested, Icy Dock's website says that
this 5.25" enclosure is "coming soon":

ToughArmor MB699VP-B
Rugged Full Metal 4 Bay 2.5" NVMe U.2 SSD Mobile Rack For External 5.25" Bay

http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=255

Allyn has already tested the Syba U.2 to M.2 2.5" enclosure, so it will be interesting to know if the U.2 connector lines up with the backplane in this MB699VP-B.

With those 2 fans on the rear panel, there should be no problem with overheating.

January 19, 2018 | 03:04 AM - Posted by Paul A. Mitchell (not verified)

Here's that Syba enclosure at Newegg.com:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817801139&Tpk=N82...

http://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=884&se...

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