AMD Ryzen Pre-order Starts Today, Specs and Performance Revealed

Subject: Processors | February 22, 2017 - 09:00 AM |
Tagged: Zen, ryzen, preorder, pre-order, handbrake, Cinebench, amd

I know that many of you have been waiting months and years to put your money down for the Zen architecture and Ryzen processors from AMD. Well that day is finally here: AMD is opening pre-orders for Ryzen 7 1800X, Ryzen 7 1700X and Ryzen 7 1700 processors.

That’s the good news. The bad news? You’ll be doing it without the guidance of independent reviews.

For some of you, that won’t matter. And I can respect that! Getting your hands on Ryzen and supporting the disruption that it offers is something not only AMD fans have been preparing for, but tens of thousands of un-upgraded enthusiasts as well.

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Sorry...AMD doesn't trust with slides it seems.

Proudly announced at our meeting with AMD this week, Zen not only met the 40% IPC goals it announced more than a year ago, but exceeded it! AMD claims more than a 52% increase in instructions per clock over Excavator and that is a conservative metric based on side conversations. This does a couple of things for the CPU market immediately: first it resets performance expectations for what Ryzen will offer when reviews do go live and second, it may actually put some worry into Intel.

AMD is allowing us to share baseline specifications of the processors, including clock speeds and core counts, as well as some selected benchmarks that show the Ryzen CPUs in an (obviously) favorable light.

  Ryzen R7 1800X Ryzen R7 1700X Ryzen R7 1700 Core i7-6900K Core i7-6800K Core i7-7700K
Architecture Zen Zen Zen Broadwell-E Broadwell-E Kaby Lake
Process Tech 14nm 14nm 14nm 14nm 14nm 14nm+
Cores/Threads 8/16 8/16 8/16 8/16 6/12 4/8
Base Clock 3.6 GHz 3.4 GHz 3.0 GHz 3.2 GHz 3.4 GHz 4.2 GHz
Turbo/Boost Clock 4.0 GHz 3.8  GHz 3.7 GHz 3.7 GHz 3.6 GHz 4.5 GHz
Cache 20MB 20MB 20MB 20MB 15MB 8MB
TDP 95 watts 95 watts 65 watts 140 watts 140 watts 91 watts
Price $499 $399 $329 $1050 $450 $350

AMD is being extremely aggressive with these prices and with the direct comparisons. The flagship Ryzen 7 1800X will run you just $499, the 1700X at $399 and the 1700 at $329. For AMD’s own comparisons, they pitted the Ryzen 7 1800X against the Core i7-6900K from Intel, selling for more than 2x the cost. Both CPUs have 8 cores and 16 threads, the AMD Ryzen part has higher clock speeds as well. If IPC is equivalent (or close), then it makes sense that the 1800X would be a noticeably faster part. If you care about performance per dollar even more…you should be impressed.

For the other comparisons, AMD is pitting the Ryzen 7 1700X with 8 cores and 16 threads against the Core i7-6800K, with 6 cores and 12 threads. Finally, the Ryzen 7 1700, still with an 8C/16T setup, goes against the Core i7-7700K with just 4 cores and 8 threads.

Here is a summary of the performance comparisons AMD is allowing to be showed.

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Though it's only a couple of benchmarks, and the results are highly siloed to show Ryzen in the best light, the results are incredibly impressive. In Cinebench R15, the Ryzen 1800X is 9% faster than the Core i7-6900K but at half the price; even the Ryzen R7 1700X is beating it. The 1700X is 34% faster than the Core i7-6800K, and the 1700 is 31% faster than the quad-core Core i7-7700K. The only single threaded result AMD gave us shows matching performance from the Core i7-6900K based on the Intel Broadwell architecture and the new Ryzen R7 1800X. This might suppress some questions about single threaded performance of Ryzen before reviews, but Broadwell is a couple generations old in Intel’s lineup, so we should expect Kaby Lake to surpass it.

The Handbrake benchmark results only included Core i7-7700K and the Ryzen R7 1700, with the huge advantage going to AMD. Not unexpected considering the 2x delta in core and thread count.

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Finally, the performance per dollar conversion on the Cinebench scores is a substantially impactful visual. With a more than 2x improvement from the Ryzen 7 1800X to the Core i7-6900K, power-hungry users on a budget will have a lot to think about.

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Sorry...AMD doesn't trust with slides it seems.

Clearly, AMD is very proud of the Ryzen processor and the Zen architecture, and they should be. This is a giant leap forward for the company compared to previous desktop parts. If you want to buy in today and pre-order, we have links below. If you’d rather wait for a full review from PC Perspective (or other outlets), you only have to wait until March 2nd.

Update Feb 22 @ 4:27am: An official Intel spokesman did respond to today's AMD news with the following: 

“We take any competition seriously but as we’ve learned, consumers usually take a ‘wait and see’ approach on performance claims for untested products. 7th Gen Intel® Core™ delivers the best experiences, and with 8th Gen Intel Core and new technologies like Intel® Optane™ memory coming soon, Intel will not stop raising the bar.” ­

While nothing drastic, the Intel comment is interesting in a couple of ways. First, the fact that Intel is responding at all means that they are rattled to some degree. Second, mention of the 8th Gen Core processor series indicates that they want potential buyers to know that something beyond Kaby Lake is coming down the pipe, a break from Intel's normally stoic demeanor.

Source: AMD

February 22, 2017 | 09:11 AM - Posted by Daniel Masterson (not verified)

Looking good! I know what my next upgrade will be.

February 22, 2017 | 10:39 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Considering the data is from AMD I expect RyZEN to mach Ivy Bridge when it comes to IPC and efficiency.
Very decent. Not that much happened in the CPU market since.

February 22, 2017 | 12:27 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I think it will match haswell

February 22, 2017 | 12:44 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Either way with the new platform AMD will start competing with Intel instead of competing with the used parts market.

February 22, 2017 | 01:37 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

>Benchmarks get verified by Youtubers and etc
>Claims it will match haswell
Intel fanboys at their finest unless you mean Haswell-E.

February 25, 2017 | 10:44 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

+1 Same... I wont buy Intel, simply bcoz they milked people for 2%/5%/10% for past 6/7 years, prices went up every gen also..

I will be selling my Intel System (i3) for an AM4 1700 AMD system.. Am just glad I purchased skylake i3 and not i5 or i7 last year October..

Intel have dropped prices big time (still not competitive seeing half the cores on most CPU`s from Intel).. If both were same price/performance/cores I would still buy AMD over Intel for reasons above (greedy Intel)..

It wont be easy for Intel to do what it did to AMD with Athlon CPU this time around..

February 22, 2017 | 09:17 AM - Posted by Roshan Kalyan (not verified)

YAY im loving those handbrake scores going to order just for that for media server build :D

amd r7 1700

will be nice upgrade from fx 6300

February 22, 2017 | 09:24 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

What about the rest of the product stack? (R3 & R5)

February 22, 2017 | 11:06 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

they are only releasing R7 for now, the rest are coming later in the year.... which is a shame really as people will want to know how the cheaper ones compare, checkout these benchmarks of the 6-core R5
Results of *Multi-Thread* tests in CPU-Z (highest-to-lowest):

Intel i7-6950X @ 4.0Ghz = 16,119 (10-core Broadwell-E CPU @ $1700)
AMD R5-1600X @ 4.2Ghz = 14,239 (6-core Ryzen CPU @ $259)
Intel i7-6900K @ 3.7Ghz = 12,980 (8-core Skylake CPU @ $1100)
Intel i7-5960X @ 3.5Ghz = 12,892 (8-core Haswell-E CPU @ $1000)
AMD R5-1600X @ 3.7Ghz = 12,544 (6-core Ryzen CPU @ $259)
Intel i7-6850K @ 3.8Ghz = 10,872 (6-core Skylake CPU @ $572)
Intel i5-7600K @ 4.2Ghz = 8,361 (4-core KabyLake CPU @ $243)
AMD FX-8370 @ 4.3Ghz = 7,632 (8-core PileDriver CPU @ $179)

February 25, 2017 | 10:47 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

r5 and r3 coming in 2nd quarter

February 22, 2017 | 09:32 AM - Posted by flippityfloppit...

I hereby condemn anyone that pre-orders to the lake of fiery silicone.

February 23, 2017 | 04:29 PM - Posted by Jared Holten (not verified)

silicon*

February 22, 2017 | 09:34 AM - Posted by Corrigan (not verified)

When's the R5 1600X coming out? And which boards support XFR?

February 22, 2017 | 11:09 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

they are only releasing R7 for now, the rest are coming later in the year.... which is a shame really as people will want to know how the cheaper ones compare, checkout these benchmarks of the 6-core R5
Results of *Multi-Thread* tests in CPU-Z (highest-to-lowest):

Intel i7-6950X @ 4.0Ghz = 16,119 (10-core Broadwell-E CPU @ $1700)
AMD R5-1600X @ 4.2Ghz = 14,239 (6-core Ryzen CPU @ $259)
Intel i7-6900K @ 3.7Ghz = 12,980 (8-core Skylake CPU @ $1100)
Intel i7-5960X @ 3.5Ghz = 12,892 (8-core Haswell-E CPU @ $1000)
AMD R5-1600X @ 3.7Ghz = 12,544 (6-core Ryzen CPU @ $259)
Intel i7-6850K @ 3.8Ghz = 10,872 (6-core Skylake CPU @ $572)
Intel i5-7600K @ 4.2Ghz = 8,361 (4-core KabyLake CPU @ $243)
AMD FX-8370 @ 4.3Ghz = 7,632 (8-core PileDriver CPU @ $179)

February 22, 2017 | 12:55 PM - Posted by Dougie (not verified)

Last I heard R5 1600X would be in April. But don't quote me on that

February 22, 2017 | 09:42 AM - Posted by skysaberx8x

Zen is love, Zen is Life
#Zenislove_ZenisLife

February 22, 2017 | 09:48 AM - Posted by Martin Trautvetter

Sounds very good, only part of the picture missing for me is the single-/low-threaded performance. (well, it's decent, not great, in the one test they showed)

Not a fan of pre-orders, especially in the blind, but I'm very tempted to just get an 1800x anyway. (bad omen there, I had one of the awful/broken X1800 back in the day)

Got to research motherboards now, any tips for a X370 board that's cheap, supports SLI, and comes with at least one PS/2 port?

February 22, 2017 | 12:51 PM - Posted by WoodyBL (not verified)

Take a look at Asrock. I currently have them on Z97 and where I've usually come across problems almost instantly after building, the build quality is perfect. Also, their X370 board, the Fatality series, the highest model comes with Wifi and Dual Gigabit Ethernet!

February 25, 2017 | 07:46 AM - Posted by Martin Trautvetter

Thanks, their entry level X370 boards (Fatal1ty K4 & Killer SLI) seem to have all the features I need, as does Asus' Prime Pro.

I'm kinda sad there's no Gigabyte / Aorus equivalent in the same price range, like the blinged-out Z270X Ultra Gaming. Cause if you're going to have those silly RGB lights, why not indulge? ;)

February 22, 2017 | 09:49 AM - Posted by Abdullateef AL Fozaie (not verified)

Amazon Links are down!

February 22, 2017 | 09:52 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Skylake-E launches later this year and easily takes back the performance crown.

AMD, overrated Keller garbage.

February 22, 2017 | 10:19 AM - Posted by Daniel Nielsen (not verified)

I hope you do parties.

February 22, 2017 | 10:34 AM - Posted by Martin Trautvetter

What you so fondly call "overrated Keller garbage" might just save everyone interested in 6900K-level performance $600+, which is a Merom-level slap-down.

Lets see how long Intel tries to keep appearances up with their aging HEDT line, if I remember correctly, AMD dropped their prices in time for the Core 2 reviews back in the day.

February 22, 2017 | 10:47 AM - Posted by Bri (not verified)

Have fun spending 3X the money!

February 22, 2017 | 11:16 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

no Skylake-E for another year!? - also its going to be extremely expensive in comparison to AMD chips which currently perform identical to Kaby-Lake IPC single core and AMD Multi-Threading on Ryzen is actually more efficient than intel

February 22, 2017 | 11:24 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

How is it overrated if at this exact moment in time, AMD is the king of multi-threaded performance? Get Rekt.

February 22, 2017 | 11:33 AM - Posted by Martin Trautvetter

Well, technically Intel is still ahead in multi-threaded performance as they are, for the moment at least, offering much higher core count CPUs than the 1800X.

February 23, 2017 | 07:52 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Errr, what?

February 24, 2017 | 06:45 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Yes for $1700 dollars for the Intel Core i7-6950X! That's $170 per core for Intel and AMDs top end Ryzen 7 1800X at 8 cores for $500, at 62.50 per core. Intel's 10 core provides 20 threads and AMD's Top Ryzen provides 16 threads. For $1700 you can buid a very nice Ryzen based Gaming PC for what it will cost for Only the 10/core Core i7-6950X.

If I where building 2 PCs, I could go with maybe the Ryzen 7 1700X and still build two systems with 8 Ryzen cores each and use some lower cost AM4/X370 motherboards and Power supplies before I'd start go over that $1700 CPU only Intel cost, with maybe the 2 RX 480's, one for each system pushing the total cost above that $1700.

There is a good contest to try! What Ryzen system could you build for the price of one Intel Core i7-6950X!

February 22, 2017 | 09:05 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Skylake-E will launch later this year and easily take down you wallet and bank account!

AMD the price/performance leader that does not break the bank!

February 24, 2017 | 04:04 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Salty Intel shill washes away drool with tears.

February 22, 2017 | 10:12 AM - Posted by Mike S. (not verified)

The article says preorders launch at 1 PM today Eastern Time, three hours from now.

February 22, 2017 | 10:13 AM - Posted by Mike S. (not verified)

Sorry, I meant to respond to Abdullateef.

February 22, 2017 | 10:26 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Thanks for including the core and thread count in your graphics for all the processor SKUs listed it helps readers greatly. I'm not sure what "Sorry...AMD doesn't trust with slides it seems." means but it looks like AMD has met it's goals with the first generation Zen/Ryzen Products and no one really expected AMD to beat Intel's latest CPU SKUs in the single core IPC metric.

What needs to be looked at the most is the Price/Performance metric and not only the performance/watt metrics. It looks like AMD is offering more cores at a more affordable price point so that's really going to be what helps this first generation Zen/Ryzen offerings. There probably will be some single threaded competition where Zen will be at a disadvantage but most gaming engines are using more cores as standard practice and DX12/Vulkan are able to offer more acceleration of traditionally CPU oriented gaming workloads on the GPU, especially AMD's GCN GPUs.

Now is the time to try and get some questions ready for AMD at its Capsaicin and Cream event about its upcoming Zen/Vega APU after all the Zen/Ryzen questions have been answered. More needs to be Known about the Zen/Ryzen Inter-CCX unit connection fabric topology as well as any new IP related to that connection fabric IP. Intel has its Ring Bus(since Sandybridge) so more information needs to be revealed about AMD’s connection fabric topology for linking up the CCX units to each other.

It would also be nice after benchmarking various Ryzen systems to compare the Total Cost of Ownership for any competing AMD and Intel CPU/Motherboard offerings along with the various GPU SKUs from AMD and Nvidia. So that build cost/dollar comparison for low cost up to the top end high cost system builds for the various AMD and Intel system builds that will be available on the market.

I’m very interested in seeing how many Vega NCUs at 14nm that AMD will be able to squeeze on any Ryzen/Raven Ridge APUs compared to previous AMD APU generations at 28nm. AMD should be able to get more graphics on its Ryzen/Vega APUs with that 14nm process and the Zen/Ryzen cores taking up less area than Intel’s cores(MM^2) on a die.

What do you expect from AMD in the area of new Zen/Ryzen steppings going forward? And will AMD be able to with some tweaking over time to get that Zen/Ryzen IPC metric improved relative to the initial Zen/Ryzen RTM steppings that will be offered in about a week's time?

February 22, 2017 | 10:31 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I'm surprise AMD decided to announce RyZen today! Which meannnt... Vega will be announced on the 28th! Ooohhh... I can felt the rain on NV Parade's 1080TI.

Just saying! :0

Peaces,
{@}
^(^

Bring them on AMD!

February 22, 2017 | 10:38 AM - Posted by Mr. Book (not verified)

I'll end up with blue balls from all of the Ryzen and Vega teasin'.

February 22, 2017 | 10:40 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

LOL INTEL FANBOY!!!

February 22, 2017 | 10:40 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

LOL INTEL FANBOY!!!

February 22, 2017 | 11:23 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

The TDP numbers are impressive, especially if those translate to Laptop CPUs. Could AMD start owning that market?
If AMDs Zen-parts used half as much power as Intels, well...
Yes, I know, AMD and Intel don't calculate TDP the same way.
Or was it AMD and Nvidia...anyway.

If the numbers AMD shows are true, it's very impressive.
Doesn't AMD also have on their roadmap an improved Zen-arch a year from now? It doesn't stop with Zen.
Interesting times´, indeed.

February 22, 2017 | 11:27 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Probably won't upgrade to one of these, just got an i5 7500, but I'm happy to finally see some good competition in the CPU market and in 2 years or so, I might just buy an all amd rig.

February 22, 2017 | 12:52 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I agree, AMD will have nothing to compete with Intel non hyper-threaded parts for at least couple of years.

February 22, 2017 | 12:09 PM - Posted by David Bendel (not verified)

Linus was able to validate nearly everything, watch his video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUndzpdo1I

February 22, 2017 | 12:29 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Anyone know if the "BIGTHANKS" coupon will work on this? Basically 8$ off for nothing.

February 22, 2017 | 03:12 PM - Posted by TechInThe21st (not verified)

I was able to use "BIGTHANKS" promo code today when pre-ordering an 1800X from Amazon.

February 22, 2017 | 01:03 PM - Posted by Anonymous Nvidia User (not verified)

I don't know how reliable the TDP is going to be for Ryzen, at least for the auto boosting models who go as high as your cooling allows. Higher clocks mean higher watts consumed. There is a 140 TDP Wraith for a reason.

February 24, 2017 | 04:30 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Of course the Wraith is 140W, it's so you can OC the 65W 1700 out of the box to 4.0 and get 6900K performance for 1/3rd of the price ! :)

February 22, 2017 | 01:10 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Amazon pages are up, but they only have bundles (super lame.) There are pre-orders up at other sites like Newegg and MicroCenter though.

February 22, 2017 | 01:16 PM - Posted by Cmina (not verified)

"Update Feb 22 @ 4:27am: An official Intel spokesman did respond to today's AMD news with the following: bla bla bla.."

Is this what actually happened ?

".. this last bit may explain why Intel PR sent out a last-minute “call us before you write” email to most of the press, but not SemiAccurate, after hours last night."

February 22, 2017 | 01:37 PM - Posted by TDale (not verified)

amazon dropped the ball and intel probably paid them to do it!

Ordered everything at newegg peace out intel scummy move!

February 22, 2017 | 01:43 PM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

"... While nothing drastic, the Intel comment is interesting in a couple of ways. First, the fact that Intel is responding at all means that they are rattled to some degree. Second, mention of the 8th Gen Core processor series indicates that they want potential buyers to know that something beyond Kaby Lake is coming down the pipe, a break from Intel's normally stoic demeanor. "

Intel is rattled by the pricing and their PR product-announcement/reply/comment is just disgusting and arrogant. Intel does innovate adn release new tech, aka raisingthe bar. yea, they raised the bar on releasing technology in a piecemeal sort of way, kinda like daily bowel movements, their shit just keeps coming on schedule.

February 23, 2017 | 08:18 AM - Posted by Stefem (not verified)

Yeah, because AMD pushed the industry forward with its continuous innovation rate... right? :D

February 23, 2017 | 03:19 PM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

i give that semi-witty reply a 4 out of 10.

February 22, 2017 | 01:55 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

LOL, pre-order before reviews. Classic.

You will find out soon why the only benchmarks being leaked out are not gaming related.

February 22, 2017 | 02:08 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

It is miracle that AMD managed to deliver ZEN without going via Kickstarter or Indigiogo ;-)

February 22, 2017 | 02:27 PM - Posted by MarkT (not verified)

100% true, Ryan would have put up the bat signal by now if gaming was on par.

February 22, 2017 | 02:15 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I don't trust anything with AMD always some catch for half ass product

February 22, 2017 | 02:25 PM - Posted by MarkT (not verified)

Protip: DO NOT pre-order ....wait for real benchmarks....warning you now.

February 22, 2017 | 02:32 PM - Posted by Master Chen (not verified)

http://i.imgur.com/4H7qCVI.png

February 22, 2017 | 02:40 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Don't need to upgrade and poor reliability of past amd motherboards will have me watching from the sidelines.

I'm more interested in Xbox Scorpio.

I preordered Horizon Zero Dawn after the reviews that came in 2 weeks before Launch. How many companies have the balls to allow reviews 2 weeks before launch?

AMD doesn't have balls that's for sure.

February 22, 2017 | 02:41 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Intel fanboys are hurt. They are in grief period.

Time will heal all pains.

Use Linux for fun and enjoy multi-tasking.

8 cores for the masses no 4 cores BS anymore.

Let the celebration begins!!!

Fan boys, a CPU is made of silicon. Accept it.

February 22, 2017 | 02:41 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Amazon pre-order is up:

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-YD180XBCAEWOF-Ryzen-1800X-Processor/dp/B06W9J...

February 22, 2017 | 02:55 PM - Posted by awi5951 (not verified)

Why is Asus charging 50 dollars more for the same crosshair board they have for intel?

February 22, 2017 | 03:46 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Great write up Ryan
I guess we have been waiting a while for these parts and it looks as though it will be worth it. Looking forward to your full review of these CPU's soon. AMD enthusiasts can start to get excited again.

February 22, 2017 | 04:12 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Curious how far these Ryzen cpu's can be overclocked, using air cooling, compared the Intel cpu counterparts.

February 22, 2017 | 04:32 PM - Posted by Kranky

Welp, since I used Amazon's "bigthanks" discount I have Corsair Vengence LPX 16gb kit coming my way. I'm heavily leaning towards the 1700x. Any real reason to consider the 1800x? Seems the only difference is the base and turbo speeds. Seems not worth the extra $100.

Then what motherboard? I've had very good experiences with Gigabyte and leaning towards that. Any quick thoughts on MSI, Asus, ASRock, or Biostar? Will be an X370 board, just likely not their respective top-tier.

February 22, 2017 | 05:57 PM - Posted by natepayne

I would say its best that we all wait for the real world benchmarks. We have all been stung before with games and components!

I hear the guys over at esport source are looking to test all the latest gen CPUs over coming weeks.

February 23, 2017 | 01:34 AM - Posted by Hakuren

I'm seriously disappointed with Zen as a architecture. Don't get me wrong. On paper and some benchmarks it looks interestingly good, but from workstation point of view it's like X58 refresh.

Ryzen is cheaper than Intel, because it's much, much cheaper from technological point of view. It doesn't offer quad-channel memory, it doesn't offer 40 PCI-e lanes, it doesn't offer 10 SATA ports. I haven't seen a single motherboard with 6 or 7 x8/x16 slots. From my point of view it's mainly for gamers. I was considering switch from X99, but until I can simply transfer all cards and hardware directly just by plugging them in, it's a no-option for me.

That's why intel is so much ahead. Even if it is more (too-)expensive and they perform socket-circus every year or two. But you can do things which Ryzen will never let you do it. I wonder what Naples will bring except server grade pricing. Darn you AMD, waited so long and you delivered literally LGA1366 refresh (PCI-e-wise) 9 years later...

All hope in Asus that they'll release some WS board with bunch of PLX chips.

February 23, 2017 | 02:49 AM - Posted by re4per-de4th (not verified)

I'd hate to say it but x99 is now a forgone era. To get x99-level CPU performance at 1/2 the price more than makes up for giving up quad channel memory or 10 SATA ports. Because most gamers aren't trying to build servers. Even enthusiast builders aren't really using all that x99 has to offer, especially considering nvidia's current limits on driver support for SLi and the broader concern of developers making their games for the highest compatibility. AMD did a superb job in bringing this level performance within reach of gamers who don't want to spend a whole system's budget on just the processor.

February 24, 2017 | 11:22 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Ryzen is the consumer branding of the Zen Micro-architecture so wait for the actual Zen server variants and server motherboards to arrive before you attempt to comment on any workstation usage. The AM4(consumer motherboards) are not what will be used for any of AMD's Server/Workstation/HPC CPU variants and Zen in the HPC market is going to rely more on being paired with Vega GPU accelerators to make up for any FP deficiencies in the Zen Micro-architecture’s FP performance relative to Intel's Xeon SKUs in that HPC market segement.

AMD’s Workstation/Server/HPC Motherboards and Zen/Naples and other CPU SKUs are scheduled for 2H of 2017 and will not be using AM4/Ryzen consumer variant Motherboard/CPUs.

February 23, 2017 | 02:23 AM - Posted by re4per-de4th (not verified)

Wow!!!

That R7 1700 is the real take away here!!! 8 cores, 16 threads, a hair less cinebench multithread performance (1410 vs 1474) than Intel 6900k...for less than 1/3rd the price AND less than HALF the tdp?!?!?!

IN SA NI TY.

Way to go AMD!

February 23, 2017 | 03:44 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

* TDP while executing NOP instructions

;-)

February 23, 2017 | 09:16 AM - Posted by Stefem (not verified)

Keep calm and don't get bitten by the hype, the Core i7 7700K which is priced at $339 is expected to be faster in gaming. And the advertised TDP of AMD's processors has been quite "conservative" in the last decade compared to real world measurement.

Lets see what it can do on March 2

February 24, 2017 | 07:17 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Really it's only a quad core while the Ryzen 1700 8 core only costs $329 and is unlocked also. I'm waiting to see just how far this 1700 can be manually overclocked before looking at the 1700X. But $329 for twice as many cores for some workloads is a great deal. That single core IPC metric with most games able to go multi-core may not matter as much. At least with 8 cores if the game needs 4 then there is still 4 more to keep any windows 10 bloat out of the way of the 4 cores that the game is using. The i7 7700K will still have to let its 4 cores do double duty with the OS and what about any gameplay video streaming twitch/others.

8 cores come in handy for many gaming/other workloads.

February 25, 2017 | 08:06 AM - Posted by Martin Trautvetter

Frankly, Windows bloat is a practical non-issue for any modern CPU, that thing even runs on a 8-year-old Netbook (single core + HT), and I find the streaming scenario a bit contrived when most if not all gamers are running GPUs (integrated or discreet) with build-in media encoders.

But that stems from the same issue Intel marketing has run into with their HEDT platform for many years, coming up with scenarios that both show significant gains for extra cores beyond 4 and are not so outlandish to be dismissed outright. (the good old compressing files while playing games or running Cinebench chestnut)

February 25, 2017 | 10:38 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

You forgot that DX12 and Vulkan will happily use more than 4 cores when needed for games so enjoy your overpriced Intel cores but do not expect others to follow. CPU cores are the most overpriced part of computing and GPUs offer much better value with their Shader/Cores numbering in the thousands. AMD's CPU SKUs will offer the best price/performance metric to those that may just use the extra cores for gaming and other uses so your gaming only justification will not hold any meaning for many that game and do other tasks with their PCs. Those Extra 4 Zen core will come in handy and that's what people will be buying from AMD. So that 8 core Zen 7 1700 SKU at less than what i7 7700k 4 core cost will be a better Price/performance vale for many.

Intel's fat margins are history and the new games/gaming engine and DX12/Vulkan graphics API ecosystems will make that single core IPC metric less of a factor in gaming. A lot of the really latency affected gaming functionality will be moved to the GPU/s via the new graphics APIs ability to offload compute onto the the GPU. So for heavily latency affected code in VR gaming there will be more GPU usage in that area. AMD's 8 core systems will also be very popular for any virtual machine environment abstraction of OSs running under a hypervisor managed facility with users running more than one OS on their system and the more cores the better for that usage.

Remember that Vega's new virtualization IP will allow for some to build home gaming servers where CPU cores and GPU cores are divided up among individual applications/games. And each application or game getting its own logical GPU slice of a physical GPU and its own complement of CPU cores all for each game or application to have all their own. So AMD's 8 core CPUs and Vega GPU/s can be virtually partitioned off to service multiple instances of games or applications running from a single PC/Server. Those 8 CPU cores at a lower price than an Intel 4 core SKUs will definitely be better for any home gaming server types of usage. Zen and Vega will be a great pairing for many more uses than Intel's limited/overpriced offerings.

February 25, 2017 | 01:09 PM - Posted by Martin Trautvetter

I don't know what you're muttering on about.

So, at least we have that in common.

February 23, 2017 | 03:40 AM - Posted by Michael Rand (not verified)

So when will actual reviews be published?

February 23, 2017 | 03:54 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Intel fanboys are crying.

Ryan, please benchmark the R7 1700X ($399 processor) against the Intel 6900K/6850K/6800/6700K/7700K.

All processors on their base clocks. Because majority of the users in the whole world do not overclock their processors.

In my opinion, R7 1700X is going to the most popular processor.

February 24, 2017 | 04:46 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Wait until the 2nd and you'll have OC/XFR results too. Because they're under NDA until launch.

But leaks already show the R7 1700 OC'ing to 4.0 all cores. Which should give it 6900K'ish performance for slightly under 1/3rd of the price.

Lordy that's going to make some people salty.

February 25, 2017 | 10:15 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

And we will laugh at them! XD

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