Report: AMD Radeon R9 380X Coming November 15 for $249

Subject: Graphics Cards | November 7, 2015 - 04:46 PM |
Tagged: tonga, rumor, report, Radeon R9 380X, r9 285, graphics card, gpu, GDDR5, amd

AMD will reportedly be launching their latest performance graphics card soon, and specs for this rumored R9 380X have now been reported at VR-Zone (via Hardware Battle).

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Here are the full specifications from this report:

  • GPU Codename: Antigua
  • Process: 28 nm
  • Stream Processors: 2048
  • GPU Clock: Up to 1000 – 1100 MHz (exact number not known)
  • Memory Size: 4096 MB
  • Memory Type: GDDR5
  • Memory Interface: 256-bit
  • Memory Clock: 5500 – 6000 MHz (exact number not known)
  • Display Output: DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 1.4, Dual-Link DVI-D

The launch date is reportedly November 15, and the card will (again, reportedly) carry a $249 MSRP at launch.

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The 380X would build on the existing R9 285

Compared to the R9 280X, which also offers 2048 stream processors, a boost clock up to 1000 MHz, and 6000 MHz GDDR5, the R9 380X would lose memory bandwidth due to the move from a 384-bit memory interface to 256-bit. The actual performance won’t be exactly comparable however, as the core (Antigua, previously Tonga) will share more in common with the R9 285 (Tonga), though the R9 285 only offered 1792 Stream processors and 2 GB of GDDR5.

You can check out our review of the R9 285 here to see how it performed against the R9 280X, and it will certainly be interesting to see how this R9 380X will fare if these specifications are accurate.

Source: VR-Zone

November 7, 2015 | 04:58 PM - Posted by 16nmNOOOOOW!please (not verified)

move from 384-bit to 256 bit...the core will share more in common with tonga... ie buy the 280x before they run out! and save urself $80

November 8, 2015 | 03:07 AM - Posted by JohnGR

This could be a bad idea with DX12. GCN 1.2 could be giving better performance under DX12, so 280X could be less future proof. Also more power, no FreeSync and 1GB less memory in the case of 380X. When 285 came out, 280X, even 280 or older HD7950/7970s where looking as a better deal. Today, no, they are not. Only if you searching for cheaper second hand cards.

November 8, 2015 | 03:50 AM - Posted by scotchscotchdownintomahbelly (not verified)

"only if your searching for cheaper second hand cards."

this IS a post about amd right??? ahhhh i kid i kid

November 7, 2015 | 05:07 PM - Posted by StephanS

Considering the r9-290 got 2560 stream processor and a 512bit bus and is $199 at store like newegg... $249 doesn't seem right.

25% more for 25% less performance?

Or same performance with possibly 100w less. (the 25% extra compute will allow r9-290 to run at 800mhz, and much lower voltage)

And if you are on a budget.. check ebay. used r9-290 are so cheap, and seem to be monsters in Dx12 with their Async engines.

November 7, 2015 | 08:35 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

The 290 stock will run out eventually. A lot of people don't want to risk buying a used card on eBay. It seems like a good deal while the supplies last. I haven't seen any comaparison of non-gaming features like the hardware video encode/decode, but those probably aren't that important to most people.

November 7, 2015 | 10:10 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Right, the 290(or 290x) are some of the best bang for the buck cards out there. I got 2 recently for about $200 each. They are power hungry but there is always a trade off.

November 8, 2015 | 04:22 PM - Posted by StephanS

Check threads like those

If you dont mind 15% lower clock speed (result in less then that in games) you can save almost 100w

Some people got massive drop in heat power by finding the card sweet spot in term of voltage. (but this is not as easy as moving a slider)

Its to bad AMD didn't release a tuned version of Fiji, because the silicon is actually very power efficient... its just like bulldozer they had to overvolt it like mad and the power tuning also seem un optimized.

November 8, 2015 | 08:33 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I just saw an article on wccftech indicating that AMD sees another performance boost with the latest Windows 10 drivers. The Nvidia price premium is not looking good.

November 8, 2015 | 04:44 PM - Posted by StephanS

I understand the sentiment in not trusting the ebay assurance policies VS store bought.

But if your used card works out of the box you dont have much to worry about. So if you receive a DOA product, return it, like you would with a store card.

Reason is, I rarely if ever had solid state stuff break within the manufacturer warranty period. All broke long after, or where non functional from the get go.

November 7, 2015 | 08:23 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

"Compared to the R9 280X, which also offers 2048 stream processors, a boost clock up to 1000 MHz, and 6000 MHz GDDR5, the R9 380X would lose memory bandwidth due to the move from a 384-bit memory interface to 256-bit. The actual performance won’t be exactly comparable however, as the core (Antigua, previously Tonga) will share more in common with the R9 285 (Tonga), though the R9 285 only offered 1792 Stream processors and 2 GB of GDDR5."

Since it is GCN 1.2, is supports delta color compression which should save bandwidth. I don't know how much bandwidth it actually saves though. All of the improvements going from GCN 1.0 to 1.2 might make up for the lower bandwidth. I would tend to favor the newer card for the updated video encode/decode features, although I guess this would have UVD 5 (Tonga) instead of UVD 6 that came out in Fiji. This will bring most of AMD's gaming cards up to at least GCN 1.1. It looks like some of the 370 and below (mostly OEM?) are still 1.0. Perhaps these will be replaced with 14 or 16 nm parts soon. The basic feature set between 1.1 and 1.2 is close, but 1.0 is missing things like TrueAudio. It would make sense to make the smaller GPUs or APUs on the new process node first, especially if they are suited to mobile use.

November 8, 2015 | 03:18 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Look at how much it does for Nvidia's Maxwell line with the gtx 960 delivering good performance off of a 128bit bus.

November 8, 2015 | 04:36 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

"Good" performance on a 960? You must be joking. It barely beats 760 on 1080p, on higher resolutions it completely falls appart.

November 8, 2015 | 05:14 AM - Posted by Fasic (not verified)

960 is ~175$
380 is ~195-200$
760 is ~200+$ (this is old card, more power, no new tech. etc...)
prices for cards in my country...

so yea 960 is good card, with good preformance...the best in price range...

and yea right, you won to buy ~200$ card, and play games on 2k or even 4k?! wtF?! monitor(2k) is around 500-600$ yea it is not logical...or even 4k...stupid thinking...

380x needs to be ~225$, and 380 to be ~175$, to it be good deal...

November 8, 2015 | 04:03 PM - Posted by Spunjji

Not sure where you got that info from. This morning I was running GTA V on my 960. At High detail and 2560x1440 with FXAA I get fairly steady frame-rates peaking at 70fps and very, very rarely dropping below 50fps.

Armored Warfare runs very much the same at similar settings. I would quote more results but I only just built this system...

November 11, 2015 | 04:01 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Ok, so you are negating the facts and reality like a fanboy:

It's clearly faster than GTX 760. Ok, if you have a reason to try to negate the reality, maybe you only will see the performance with Crysis 3, and not the other games.

PD: In many games the advantage of performance with the 960 is greater than with the 760 vs 660, so you are lying or misinformated, or a fanboy.

In the rest of this review (here, in PCPers.) you can see at one time and another how the GTX 960 is faster than the R9 285 (now and with a slighty factory overclock, that is known as R9 380, but is the same, rebranding, like call "Antigua" to the same chip, "Tonga"), so in the best case for a normal R9 380 against a "reference" GTX 960 without overclock, etc, the R9 380 is only slighty faster than the GTX 960. If you can't play with a game and one graphical setup with the 960, you can't do with the 380, too.

By the other side, all the GTX 960s, with pre-oc'ed setup or not, with special dissipation or not, are good overclockers cards. The 380? NO. They aren't, mediocre cards for reach more with overclocking, but this is only because AMD is the one that are making with its rebrands a preoverclock in its old cards, and then AMD can said "it isn't the same at all, it's different and NEW, do you see their performance? is better, so it isn't the same!".

The trick for fanboys (that are waiting any excuse for AMD to find something to repeat as "mantra") and disinformated people.

November 8, 2015 | 02:24 AM - Posted by symphonicamplitude (not verified)

is trueaudio even something that amd owners consider when choosing their card?? or is it more of a bonus, with the catalyst (ha!, see what i did there XD) of the purchase lying elsewhere?

November 8, 2015 | 03:19 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

It wasn't the one-and-only factor that made up my mind, but TrueAudio availability did carry some weight in my selection of graphics card. On Saturdays, I haul my computer to a friend's house for gaming day. At home I have a moderately decent 7.1 speaker system and use the motherboard audio, but at my friend's house I use his television for a monitor and 100% of my audio comes through HDMI.

Now, granted, there aren't very many games that can take advantage of TrueAudio, and the ones that do aren't on our list of games we play - in other words, as far as I know I haven't used it. But when I bought my R9-290, knowing that there may come a day when a game I and my friend want to play might use it did, in some small way, factor into my decision.

But there was never a moment where I thought, "Well gee, I was going to get this 280X or that 970 or that 780, but now I know that the 290 has TrueAudio, I'm getting THAT."

November 8, 2015 | 04:49 PM - Posted by StephanS

ATM, the whole DSP / audio HW engine in AMD GPU is unused.

But I expect VR to start to tap this... but we are still probably a year away before this even matter.

To bad for AMD, that was a very premature feature. Same as their introduction of the VM model in Tahiti. HW tiled paging.. but no API to use it.
Its actually amazing how much logic AMD designed on their GPU that go unused in gaming. But Dx12 finally unlock the async engine, we had the tiled resource streaming in a late version of dx11, and hopefully VR will finally leverage the audio DSP. (positional and environmental audio is key to the experience).

November 8, 2015 | 05:43 PM - Posted by canuhearmenow (not verified)

good point about vr (in fact most demos of truaudio on the interwebz are vr ones, go figure).. still tho, just because amd has provided an avenue for devs to 'do it' better, doesnt also mean that the way they were doing it before, was necessarily that poor. i dont recall the internet clamoring about poor audio spacialization in games prior to the release of trueaudio. more so driver optimizations for smoother frame delivery instead no?

and to that end, when u take into account the very nature of DSPs, and the very reason they exist in the first place, coupled with the computing constraints inherent to consoles, i feel like the decision to develop trueaudio ultimately had more to do with amd successfully negotiating the console contracts, rather than anything pure audio fidelity alone. implementation on the pc was secondary. and the only reason we dont see trueaudio on the xbox one, as we do on the ps4, is the kinect. i wouldnt be surprised if the addition of the kinect, added another layer of audio for which had to be accounted. an additional layer that amd maybe didnt find it worthwhile to add the manpower, or, more likely, microsoft werent willing to leave in the hands of anyone else other than themselves.

whatever the case, i dont think amd are too concerned with the lack of adoption on the pc ...their main concern was engineering the best experience possible within the hardware limits imposed by designing the modern day console. any benefits to pc gamers are coincidental.

November 8, 2015 | 11:09 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I expect TrueAudio is partially for the consoles and partially for possible mobile products. It is almost always more efficient to use specialized hardware rather than software on a general purpose device. For VR it is going to be very important to have 3D positional audio for the immersion factor. This means calculating reflections based on materials and geometry. This also has to be done with low latency. I think a high end APU will actually be very good for VR if paired with fast memory. The unified memory access will lower the latency for a lot of operations compared to copying everything over the PCIe bus to a remote GPU.

November 8, 2015 | 07:03 PM - Posted by J Nevins (not verified)

Yea Josh mentions it ad nauseam for all 2 people who care about it.

November 8, 2015 | 07:02 PM - Posted by J Nevins (not verified)

5+ months and still no 390X review

November 8, 2015 | 10:15 PM - Posted by comingforurjobspcper! (not verified)

AMDs 390x review:

moderately faster than a 290x. still slower than anything higher than a 970. end

November 8, 2015 | 10:50 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

There is an article on wccftech indicating that AMD parts get another performance boost with new windows 10 drivers. It is going to vary from game to game, but going forward, AMD and Nvidia will be very close in performance with AMD taking the lead more often. AMD has had more powerful hardware for a while, but it seems that it was mostly the software that was holding them back. With the driver/API bottleneck removed, we can see what the hardware is really capable of.

November 8, 2015 | 11:00 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

They are showing a 390x as a few percent faster than a 980 and even the 290x as 9% faster than a 970. I not sure exactly what they are testing though, so I would like to see another pcper round-up.

November 9, 2015 | 12:25 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

The 980 OCs like a bat out of hell. I've seen one beat the Fury in benches.

November 9, 2015 | 01:54 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Dude not all 980's oc like a bat out of hell. Most will give a good oc but not all. Even with that good overclock, the performance gain is not going to be 15 fps more. At most 7-8 fps and in some cases maybe 10 fps depending upon the game. So if the 980 is behind in benchmark a few fps and you get a decent oc, it can pull ahead by a few fps.

This is free performance, but you can't always depend on that because sometimes you might not get that great overclocker. I had a gtx 770 that would not overclock that well. So it's the luck of the silicon lottery. My point is people need to stop using that as the be all end all, because it is not and a lot of people don't oc.

November 9, 2015 | 02:29 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

All of the 980s(5) in my group of friends clock to 1500+MHz, even reference models. Some games showed a 20+ FPS increase at 1080p and 3DMark Firestrke increased by 3000+ points compared to stock.

November 9, 2015 | 08:42 AM - Posted by Batismul (not verified)

I can definitely vouch for this. 3 so far I know have gone past 1500Mhz on the core on air =0 for 24\7 gaming

November 9, 2015 | 04:34 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

If they could all clock at that speed then Nvidia would probably sell a model at that clock, although it may be a case that the power consumption explodes at that clock, but it will do fine if you can keep it cool. Not everyone is running a high-end overclocking motherboard and power supply that can supply that kind of power or the necessary cooling. Archiving such clock speeds on your specific system is far from guaranteed. Also the AMD parts are cheaper to start with. So you may be able to get a few percent improvement, but at what cost? The whole discussion here was that some AMD cards offer the best bang for your buck right now. This new AMD card probably does not, but we will have to wait and see how the architectural improvements make up for the memory bandwidth and if it overclocks. Nvidia cards definately do not offer the best performance per dollar compared to the cheap prices for 290/290x.

November 9, 2015 | 04:38 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Do you guys not get that still it is a luck of the draw with the card. I know two people that theirs would not, so we could do this all day. But you two brilliant ones still miss my point that not everyone wants to overclock and some people just want out of the box performance.

November 9, 2015 | 07:52 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Calm. No need to put people down Mr. Fanboi.

November 9, 2015 | 08:15 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I did not not put anybody down, just made a point that there are two sides to every coin. But I will refer to you as a moron with the fanboi bs, because you don't even know what I run in my system. Here's a hint it's not AMD. You internet warriors are ridiculous with your bs comments. So the only fanboi here is you asshat.

November 9, 2015 | 10:20 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Guess what? I'm typing from a R9 Nano powered system.....

November 9, 2015 | 10:27 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Well good for you there superstar, I'm happy to hear it.

November 9, 2015 | 11:54 PM - Posted by motionoftheoceanbaby (not verified)

again. not neaaaaarly sober enough to be sure, but dont you find it ironic that the sources or our e-peen are getting smaller and smaller?

November 10, 2015 | 12:16 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

lol, possibly

November 10, 2015 | 12:40 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Haha, it would seem so. The 5820K's massive girth kind of balances it out though.

November 9, 2015 | 03:11 AM - Posted by Master Chen (not verified)

250$? Nope. I'll pass until it drops to roughly 200$ at the very least (perfect zone - 180~185$).

November 9, 2015 | 08:19 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Master Chen, they will never make any money selling it that cheap. It's not like they make a lot now. I'm sure it will come down in a few months, but for not they release it at a higher price to see how many takers they have and they will adjust it accordingly.

November 10, 2015 | 03:48 PM - Posted by Master Chen (not verified)

Who said anything about THEM selling it That cheap?
I'll buy a used one or take a diminished offering from Amazon/E-bay's third party e-tailers when the cards becomes obsolete (which will be right after first Arctic Islands come, in another words - this summer).

November 9, 2015 | 05:52 AM - Posted by Batismul (not verified)

And still no HDMI 2.0 lol
Way too much for an outdated chip, good luck with that.

November 9, 2015 | 11:44 AM - Posted by anonymous (not verified)

it isnt exactly a re-badge of the 7970 anymore, and what if they never settled or something? and included a copy of a major title with every purchase? that may help alleviate the expense a bit, which in turn, may ultimately serve as a catalyst ;) for many buyers. i dunno...gimme a copy of FO4, and all the sudden things are looking a bit different. and in that same vein, why dont ya go ahead and throw in some battlefront while your at, along with fallout, for all the fury buyers. ive been meaning to update that darn mItx rig anyways...

November 9, 2015 | 04:49 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

This isn't a rebadge. The previous 280x was just a tweaked 7970. The 380x will be based on Tonga, so it is a jump from GCN 1.0 to 1.2 when going from 280x to 380x. The 380 is based on Tonga also; it is based on the chip used in the 285.

November 12, 2015 | 02:34 AM - Posted by VeritronX (not verified)

If the post is going to compare it to the 280X, the biggest difference I see is the support of the new crossfire over pci-e in the 380X over the old bridge connector system in the old card.. so basically one has good crossfire scaling and the other doesn't and can drop frames.

November 16, 2015 | 07:04 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Any additional updates on the R9 380X?

November 15th has passed I don't see any listings online. I thought it was rather odd to release on a Sunday even though I saw several sites document the date of the Nov 15th.

I heard of a 2nd date November 19th. Has anyone heard any other discussions surrounding the release on that date?

November 16, 2015 | 08:03 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I would really like to know some more information regarding this gpu, since the 15th has passed and I have heard nothing about it releasing. I wanna know if I should go for the r9 380 or it's worth waiting for the 380x.

November 17, 2015 | 12:48 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

You aren't the only one.

Newest I've seen are these pics,

November 17, 2015 | 08:00 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Thank you Jeremy for taking the time to look that up! Much appreciated! My guess is that the release date will fall this Thursday. (Or at least I hope.) It would be disappointing if it got carried over to December. I think the R9 380X will definitely fill a much needed gap in the market.

What do you think the odds are of Nvidia producing a GTX 960ti or 965 if the R9 380X becomes mildly successful?

I question if they would react or just wait for Pascal since I don't believe it is that far away.

November 18, 2015 | 09:58 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Articles are surfacing today.

Looks like there should be availability tomorrow.

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