PCPer Live! AMD Radeon Crimson Live Stream and Giveaway!

Subject: Graphics Cards | November 24, 2015 - 09:08 PM |
Tagged: video, radeon software, radeon, live, giveaway, freesync, crimson, contest, amd

UPDATE: Did you miss today's live stream? No worries! You can get the full rundown of the new Radeon Software Crimson Edition driver and get details on new features like FreeSync Low Frame Rate Compensation, DX9 frame pacing, custom resolutions, and more. Check out the video embed below.

It's nearly time for the holidays to begin but that doesn't mean the hardware and software news train comes to a halt! This week we are hosting AMD in the PC Perspective offices for a live stream to discuss the upcoming release of the new AMD Radeon Software Crimson Edition. Earlier in the month we showed you a preview of what changes were coming to the AMD GPU driver and now we are going to not only demo it for you but let the community ask AMD questions directly about it!

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And what's a live stream without prizes? AMD has stepped up to the plate to offer up some awesome hardware for those of you that tune in to watch the live stream! 

  • 2 x AMD Radeon R9 Nano 4GB Fiji Graphics Cards
  • 2 x PowerColor PCS+ Radeon R9 380 Graphics Cards

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AMD Radeon Software Crimson Live Stream and Giveaway

12pm PT / 3pm ET - November 24th

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The event will take place Tuesday, November 24th at 12pm PT / 3pm ET at http://www.pcper.com/live. There you’ll be able to catch the live video stream as well as use our chat room to interact with the audience. To win the prizes you will have to be watching the live stream, with exact details of the methodology for handing out the goods coming at the time of the event.

I will be joined by Adrian Costelo, Product Manager for Radeon Software, and Steven Gans, UX Designer for Radeon Software. In short, these are the two people you want to hear from and have answer your questions!

If you have questions, please leave them in the comments below and we'll look through them just before the start of the live stream. Of course you'll be able to tweet us questions @pcper and we'll be keeping an eye on the IRC chat as well for more inquiries. What do you want to know and hear from AMD?

So join us! Set your calendar for Tuesday at 12pm PT / 3pm ET and be here at PC Perspective to catch it. If you are a forgetful type of person, sign up for the PC Perspective Live mailing list that we use exclusively to notify users of upcoming live streaming events including these types of specials and our regular live podcast. I promise, no spam will be had!

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November 23, 2015 | 01:03 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

The Vulkan graphics API and Crimson drivers with Steam OS, How far along is the AMD Steam OS support, as well as other Linux OS distros with Crimson and Vulkan. Will AMD be doing any Steam OS based demos with Vulkan to let potential Steam Machine customers gauge AMD hardware with Steam OS/Other Linux based OS's?

November 23, 2015 | 01:04 PM - Posted by YTech

What I would be interested to know are;
- Improvements
- Linux Compatibility and DX12
- Clarifications on the rumours about the harmony with AMD & nVidia GPU systems
- Usability for Stereoscopic support and VR support (enabling/disabling), forced when GPU is unable to detect the source as a 3D compliant device.
- Window transparency/opacity support in Windows7,8.1,10
- Forced various refresh rates to different displays

How to proceed if you'd like a special tour of the AMD office in Ontario, Canada? ;)

November 23, 2015 | 11:01 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Your answer is here. Please look at these slides. Its amazing the changes AMD is doing. http://videocardz.com/57776/amd-launches-radeon-software-crimson-driver

November 24, 2015 | 11:51 AM - Posted by YTech

The presentation slides provide very little details.
I expect the live event to be much more detailed than those with more in-depth details of how-to's.

November 23, 2015 | 01:16 PM - Posted by xXfuzzysatchelXx

Is there a future for HBM with AMD, will we see a next generation of architecture that will support more than 4GB of HBM? Is there any indication that AMD will be lowering prices on the Nano and Fury X cards to put them back in the for gamers budget they always were so proud to promote? The prices just seem to high for the performance they offer stacking against the other guys offerings that are in a very close price bracket.

November 23, 2015 | 01:30 PM - Posted by funandjam

Question to ask the AMD reps:

Will the new drivers include frame multiplication support for below the VRR window of freesync monitors?

November 23, 2015 | 01:37 PM - Posted by taisserroots

Does this extend to the EU (UK resident)

November 23, 2015 | 04:53 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

The contest? Yup!

November 23, 2015 | 11:04 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

AMD is claiming 20% improvement in the Fable Benchmark. Will you retest and let us know? PLease check these slides
http://videocardz.com/57776/amd-launches-radeon-software-crimson-driver

November 23, 2015 | 01:49 PM - Posted by Thegamesown15

Im interested to know if crimson will decrease power consumption of the R9 nano and by how much. Will this new GUI and driver allow a cooler operating temperature overall?

November 24, 2015 | 12:39 PM - Posted by ChangWang

Questions:

Can we get a Triple buffering check box for DirectX? It would be very helpful for some games and eliminate the need for 3rd party tools (I'm looking at you Dead Space).

Is it possible to do frame duplication with freesync when reaching the lower end of the refresh range? derp.. nevermind on this one :-D

Any plans to cut back on CPU overhead and improve DX11 performance? (much like those green bastages have?)

December 1, 2015 | 10:47 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Dead Space runs at 30FPS using VSYNC, but if I force on VSYNC using the video control panel (NVidia for me) it forces 60FPS and runs very smoothly for me.

November 23, 2015 | 01:54 PM - Posted by toxinate (not verified)

How do they feel about the mandatory signing up of Nvidia drivers through Nvidia's Geforce Experience program?

Does AMD plan on following suit in the future?

November 24, 2015 | 07:30 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

AMD already officially stated they won't ask to register to download their drivers.

November 23, 2015 | 02:07 PM - Posted by 1832vin

so what is the software is trying to solve? i see no UI problems in the old software, so what is this new radeon crimson trying to solve?
compatibility with linux? vulkan? a little more performance gains? live OC?

November 23, 2015 | 02:14 PM - Posted by Kane (not verified)

Can we expect additional performance improvements (especially regarding the DX11 CPU overhead) with the new Crimson driver ?

November 23, 2015 | 02:26 PM - Posted by Filippo Dinolfo (not verified)

CCC was sort of a nightmare when using High Contrast mode in Windows. Does Crimson's new software behave a bit better as far as adhering to Windows themes go? If not, does it at least stay consistent throughout?

November 23, 2015 | 02:31 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Did you guys improve the CPU overhead in DX11? Are we going to see a full changelog? I love changelogs!

Are we looking at overall performance improvements or it's just a replacement for CCC?

November 28, 2015 | 01:23 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I agree, changelogs are in-fact useful!

November 23, 2015 | 02:54 PM - Posted by lmsz (not verified)

fqs - flip queque size will be adjustable?

December 1, 2015 | 10:48 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Pretty sure they said NO right at the end.

November 23, 2015 | 02:59 PM - Posted by Titan_Y (not verified)

I think I can at least partly answer a couple of the questions posted here already:

Radeon Software Crimson is developed using Qt:(from Wikipedia) "... a cross-platform application framework that is widely used for developing application software that can be run on various software and hardware platforms with little or no change in the underlying codebase, while having the power and speed of native applications."

What this suggests to me is that there will be performance improvements and as it is cross-platform, we may see some Linux love.

A great article on Crimson can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/nluf6vr

November 23, 2015 | 03:34 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

So no more .net CCC, With QT being the framework for Crimson!

P.S. Unrelated to this article watch out for Dell PC/laptops there is a New SuperFish in town, and even if you remove the root certificate the UEFI/BIOS puts it right back. It's not Lenovo this time around it's in Dell's PC and laptops! Dude you got a SuperFish!

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/11/dell-does-superfish-ships-pcs-wi...

November 23, 2015 | 03:21 PM - Posted by Karim Kandil (not verified)

*sigh* why do all the good streams happen when im at school

November 23, 2015 | 04:14 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I feel your pain. I'll be at work and won't get home until a short time after the stream ends. It's like they're taunting me.

November 23, 2015 | 04:54 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

Sorry guys! With our work schedule, my baby, life, etc., this just works better for us!

November 23, 2015 | 05:02 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Who cares about your life? YOU SHOULD CATER TO OUR WHIMS!

lol nah, I'm kidding. Do your thing, man, we're golden. :)

November 23, 2015 | 03:38 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Any plans for FuryX to get custom pcb/cooler from partnering card maker s such as asus/msi/xfx etc.

November 23, 2015 | 03:43 PM - Posted by Nick (not verified)

Exactly 30 minutes too early for me. Oh well, I could have used that 380 for a friend... :(

November 23, 2015 | 04:10 PM - Posted by slugbug55

What I would like to see is drivers which are not so large of a download. In the past drivers were measured in megabytes not gigabytes.

November 23, 2015 | 04:16 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I don't think I have yet seen an AMD driver package over a gigabyte. In fact, the latest drivers from AMD are 281 and 301 megabytes.

November 23, 2015 | 04:22 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Also, Nvidia's latest WHQL drivers (359.00 as of the moment I'm writing this) are 289 megabytes - a few megabytes larger than AMD's last WHQL drivers.

November 23, 2015 | 04:18 PM - Posted by funandjam

The current drivers are still in megabytes. I think the latest one is around 308 megabytes, give or take a few. I've been using them since 2012 when I got my AMD card, never seen a driver in the gigabytes size.

November 23, 2015 | 04:51 PM - Posted by Patrick3D (not verified)

-Will Crimson support "dual graphics" mode with AMD APUs?
-Will Crimson actually notify users when new driver updates are available? (CCC never notified me of anything)
-Will new driver updates install in a simplified manner (i.e. 1 button press / automatic)?

November 23, 2015 | 06:20 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

That also depends on what the OEM's decide with their OEM specific Graphics drivers, especially for laptops. Gaming Rig builders have it so good for driver updates from the devices ODM's and the motherboard makers, but with laptop users it's the luck of the draw for driver updates from OEMs.

November 23, 2015 | 08:37 PM - Posted by Aldraku (not verified)

- Will the new drivers be properly stable and compatible with the older gpu's like r9 280x or will they focus on the current lineup for improvements ?

November 23, 2015 | 08:46 PM - Posted by HM (not verified)

will AMD implement adaptive vsync? (vsync on when performance hits target, auto vsync off when cannot, like Nvidia and the consoles can do)

is crimson supporting pre GCN, WDDM 1.3 DX11 Radeons? (like the latest Catalyst does for the HD5000/6000 series) if yes, will it have features that currently GCN cards have and pre GCN don't without obvious technical limitations (like the framerate cap thing)

will AMD release some kind of legacy driver with working catalyst for windows 10? (like for an HD 4800, windows update drivers work but don't have CCC, while Nvidia DX10 cards have a control panel working from windows update drivers)

oh and I agree with another post, a checkbox for triple buffering (on fullscreen exclusive DX, windowed seems to force it by default) would be great.

December 1, 2015 | 10:51 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

RadeonPro supports "Dynamic VSYNC" (and "HALF Dynamic VSYNC") which works the same as NVidia's solution. Not sure about the new Crimson drivers though.

November 23, 2015 | 09:00 PM - Posted by Shrapnol (not verified)

Where is the FALLOUT 4 GPU DRIVER ATI

November 23, 2015 | 10:59 PM - Posted by Titan_Y (not verified)

The Catalyst 15.11.1 beta has already been released and specifically addresses Fallout 4 performance. Go download it.

November 23, 2015 | 11:19 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

People slow to the party. Im sure in his mind he was like OMG AMD drivers suck.. Though hes not an AMD owner.

November 23, 2015 | 11:36 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Videocardz has come through on the leaks - http://videocardz.com/57776/amd-launches-radeon-software-crimson-driver

Looks like some kind of frame multiplication is coming for below VRR window, it's called " Low Framerate Compensation"

November 23, 2015 | 11:54 PM - Posted by Kenny (not verified)

Will AMD improve SteamOS linux gaming performance for mainstream titles?

November 24, 2015 | 01:00 AM - Posted by Commoner (not verified)

Had this problem with a Dell P2715Q (4k 60hz) monitor using Display Port where if you turn off or allow the computer to hibernate, sometimes the monitor gets stuck in Power Saving Mode until you remove the power cord and plug it back in.

There is also an issue where if you turn off the monitor or your computer comes back to sleep, upon returning, all your windows get shrunk and shoved in the upper right corner of the screen.

I've checked online and this issue seems to be pretty wide spread among people who own 4k monitors using Display Port. Dell seems to suggest it not an issue with their monitors but with AMD's drivers.

Is this true and if it is does AMD have plans on addressing the issue?

November 24, 2015 | 01:31 AM - Posted by Belchev (not verified)

What is the point of having overclock profile for each game? Is it for performance or power efficiency, how you end up with that idea?

November 24, 2015 | 05:03 AM - Posted by Jean (not verified)

AMD Hello, I have a HD 7790 graphics card and I wonder why the mantle are less than DirectX fps in Battlefield 4 if radeon crimson edition brings an addition to performance than beta catalyst 15.11.1

November 24, 2015 | 06:01 AM - Posted by Ljubo (not verified)

I want clear answer: laptop DUAL GRAPHIC (amd apu + apu discrete) support YES or NO? (just yes or no, nothing more).

November 24, 2015 | 07:48 AM - Posted by darth_revan43

Questions:

Please detail the new Feature: Low Framerate Compensation for FreeSync and better explain the range needed for the monitors to support it, and also give an example of an existent monitor or if not of a range that can actually be attainable for a monitor by today's standards.

Also please detail Smooth Motion and Lower Motion Judder for the 2 cases when the game is below the minimum FreeSync range with V-sync enabled and disabled.

I would also like to know when will this new Crimson driver be available on Linux and what additional features it will it include.

Also explain what they did for the performance improvements in Linux and the confusion caused by the percentages seen here: http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2015/11/VC_AMD-Crimson-Driver-33.jpg from this presentation http://videocardz.com/57776/amd-launches-radeon-software-crimson-driver. Is it actually more than double (over 100%), or is it actually the value - 100%.

Please also detail what is the next step for AMD, regarding software for their video cards, and what they would like to improve next in the new Crimson driver for Windows and Linux.

November 24, 2015 | 10:01 AM - Posted by loguerto (not verified)

There are a couple of thing I would like to know from from the AMD techguy:
- yesterday I installed dota 2 openGL patch on my radeon r9 290x rig and I was very disappointed to find out that the frame rates were half of those in directx9. I did some research and find out AMD's support in openGL is very poor compared to cometition, there will be some improvements in this regard? The linux community deserves better support in my opinion.
- I was a big fan of the trueAudio technology. Having a integrated DSP inside a videocard is so cool thing to have, ps4 implemented it too, but now, no one is talking about it. Are there any news about it? It will be implemented in vulkan/dx12? Are there any improvements at the sdk level, as the guys developing thief had some problems implementing it.
- I am very, very curious to know what is AMD's concrete response/plan to contrast nvidias gameworks. Looking at the latest games released it is clear that gameworks is a very heavy middleware that costs lots of performance for both radeons and gtxs. Does Raja/amd's technical stuff think that things can be done better than nvidia does? Are you guys going to do something about that?

November 24, 2015 | 10:53 AM - Posted by Bri (not verified)

I'm guessing it's recommended to do a DDU wipe before attempting installation of crimson?

November 24, 2015 | 12:27 PM - Posted by Ljubo (not verified)

Yes

November 24, 2015 | 01:18 PM - Posted by Carbonic (not verified)

1. When you right-click the new red icon in your taskbar you can go to a graphics profile subsection where you can choose between optimize performance, balanced and optimize image quality. Where do I see what these does and tweak then if needed? Seriously, I can't find it.
2. You still use the traditional options menu for additional setting? Is this a temporary thing until you get it all in the new UI?
3. Your new UI is fast, pretty and not cluttered. In contrast the AMD Gaming Evolved app is slow, cluttered and a mess. The contrast is ruining it a bit don't you think?

November 24, 2015 | 01:19 PM - Posted by funandjam

Another question for the AMD reps, and if they can't answer then hopefully PCPer can investigate it:

Now that frame multiplication is going to be done on the GPU itself for below VRR support, does this mean that some of the GPU processing power will be used to run that algorithm for frame multiplication,and if so, how much of an impact would that have on GPU performance?

December 1, 2015 | 11:02 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

GPU processing time is insignificant. All the GPU is doing is sending the same frame the GPU already rendered back to the monitor. The screen isn't changing what it shows to you visually, but it prevents dropping out of asynchronous mode.

I'll simplify over one second (it varies continously)->

For example, if you dropped to 29FPS (for 30HZ to 75Hz asynchronous range) it will output 58 actual frames. Visually it looks like 29FPS as each image is drawn twice but to the monitor it's really 58FPS thus staying in the asynchronous range.

So not as smooth as true 58FPS but much better than 29FPS without this new improvement (which would have to drop back to VSYNC ON or OFF mode normally).

November 24, 2015 | 02:07 PM - Posted by Hardik Shah (not verified)

Whenever I use IE11 with Windows 7 (x64) OR Windows 10 (x64)and any version of AMD Catalyst software installed I am getting IE crashes for the last 2 years now. This is happening on 3 of my diff. computers and when searched on internet there are numerous ppl facing similar issue and the problem is AMD guys says its Microsoft driver problem and vice versa.

It happens when multiple tabs are open in IE, it force closes and when checked via Event viewer it says AMD display driver stopped responding - There is absolutely no fix for this.

I hope the new crimson driver wont be having similar issue and even if it does pls try to fix such a critical issue ASAP.

November 24, 2015 | 03:09 PM - Posted by Hardik Shah (not verified)

BTW, forgot to mention running Sapphire 7870 and 7870XT on various PC.

November 24, 2015 | 02:12 PM - Posted by Jim D. (not verified)

My main question would be why they are not keeping up with "game ready" drivers. It seems that they are losing ground to Nvidia due to not being able to keep up with the game market as well.

The Tech seems like it's def. there but and I would like to see the software keep up. I'd like to REALLY use all the hardware without waiting for software to follow and support it.

November 24, 2015 | 02:16 PM - Posted by nagus (not verified)

My Question for AMD

Will the new Crimson suite include frame limiting functions similar to MSI Afterburner so that FreeSync users can stay just under the FreeSync ceiling ?

November 24, 2015 | 02:39 PM - Posted by Spinalfailed

I really really don't understand why streamers insist on streaming during the hours when the majority of the US working populous is actually at work?!? Thanks for including people that have to act like adults, it's always really helpful! /s

November 24, 2015 | 08:20 PM - Posted by Carbonic

Because they are in the US and at work since it's their work + any later and Europe would be sleeping.

November 24, 2015 | 03:06 PM - Posted by nagus (not verified)

2nd Question for AMD

Does Crimson finally make the Fury X an "overclockers dream"?

November 24, 2015 | 03:07 PM - Posted by BishFiscuits (not verified)

Is AMD going to release any new APU's for the AM1 platform? It was marketed as upgradeable but it's had no new chips. Hardware H265 support would be a perfect reason to upgrade as many people bought into AM1 as a HTPC platform.

November 24, 2015 | 03:52 PM - Posted by Mobile_Dom

LFC is probably my favourite feature of the Crimson driver, bu i do have one question:

so is the 2.5x limitation for LFC a hardware thing or just software that they havent quite got right yet so dont want to release it? because that 48-75Hz LG is probably the monitor that needs it most, yet wont get it.

November 24, 2015 | 03:43 PM - Posted by Oly (not verified)

Does the new driver reduce latency for single gpus?
Im liking the newer look, far easier to get stuff set up

November 24, 2015 | 04:01 PM - Posted by Justin_C (not verified)

When are you launching the dual fiji card?

November 24, 2015 | 04:09 PM - Posted by carlosandr1

howw do I enter the contest

November 25, 2015 | 12:17 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Good show.
How do you inform the winners.

November 25, 2015 | 12:56 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

Badger-gram

November 25, 2015 | 06:45 AM - Posted by lumen001

I want to see my frames without Fraps or other programs.
How do you make it?
Are there any settings as Rivaturner? If so where are they?

November 25, 2015 | 06:55 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

So here it is the new Radeon Crimson driver....wait...no support for my Radeon 5870...WTF?? I got to use the BETA one....fuck again.. it says "with dotnet". WTF??

AMD fools it´s customers just like that other lying video card making company.

Maybe it is all the fault of that indian guy who took over when those AMD founders where not looking...

November 25, 2015 | 11:07 AM - Posted by donut (not verified)

Yeah best to stay anonymous with that comment.

November 25, 2015 | 11:52 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

What is the point of writing donut instead of Anonymous?

November 25, 2015 | 05:40 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

In the new UI I noticed that in crossfire, under individual game settings, there is now an option for AMD CrossFire Mode. It offers- disabled; Default mode; AFR friendly; optimize 1X1 and Use AMD pre-defined profile.
Any idea what the differences are to each mode?

November 26, 2015 | 11:20 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Wow, I thought for a second, scrolling down the page that the red block said Ransomware. Not something you want to be associating your powerful encrypting products with.

December 4, 2015 | 03:24 AM - Posted by Fredgido (not verified)

On the stream they say it sets freesync based on the Monitor ID...
If we override the EDID of a random DP 1.2 monitor with one that has freesync maybe we can force freesync on a non freesync monitor! (replace EDID is easy with some tools)
Maybe some monitors can tolerate variable sync intervals on the signal so it can work for a small interval?
Can someone test this? Thanks

August 9, 2017 | 01:18 PM - Posted by oo (not verified)

my first question why should i buy this card?
2nd question .how much faster do you think the next gen card will be?

August 9, 2017 | 01:21 PM - Posted by oo (not verified)

what kind of a cpu would you suggest.. for this card would a 8 core amd bulldozer be too old ??

August 9, 2017 | 01:23 PM - Posted by oo (not verified)

how many questions can I ask???

August 9, 2017 | 01:28 PM - Posted by oo (not verified)

what is the max ambient temp for that card before it would roll back power? ..

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