NVIDIA Recants: Overclocking Returning to Mobile GPUs

Subject: Graphics Cards, Mobile | February 19, 2015 - 03:58 PM |
Tagged: nvidia, notebooks, mobile, gpu

After a week or so of debate circling NVIDIA's decsision to disable overclocking on mobility GPUs, we have word that the company has reconsidered and will be re-enabling the feature in next month's driver release:

As you know, we are constantly tuning and optimizing the performance of your GeForce PC.

We obsess over every possible optimization so that you can enjoy a perfectly stable machine that balances game, thermal, power, and acoustic performance.

Still, many of you enjoy pushing the system even further with overclocking.

Our recent driver update disabled overclocking on some GTX notebooks. We heard from many of you that you would like this feature enabled again. So, we will again be enabling overclocking in our upcoming driver release next month for those affected notebooks. 

If you are eager to regain this capability right away, you can also revert back to 344.75.

Now, I don't want to brag here, but we did just rail NVIDIA for this decision on last night's podcast...and then the decision was posted on NVIDIA's forums just four hours ago... I'm not saying, but I'm just saying!

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All kidding aside, this is great news! And NVIDIA desperately needs to be paying attention to what consumers are asking for in order to make up for some poor decisions made in the last several months. Now (or at least soon), you will be able to return to your mobile GPU overclocking!

February 19, 2015 | 04:10 PM - Posted by Cyclops

Hi there, NVidia. What's that? Oh, that's the sky. We are glad that you decided to pull your head out of the sand. It's quite nice out here!

February 19, 2015 | 04:42 PM - Posted by MarkT (not verified)

I'm happy.

February 19, 2015 | 05:35 PM - Posted by -- (not verified)

can't wait to see all the laptops getting ruined

February 19, 2015 | 06:54 PM - Posted by Master Chen (not verified)


February 19, 2015 | 06:59 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Now to stop Intel from pushing the "Ultrabook" form factor onto the entire laptop market. This Thin and Light crap is what is keeping the desktop/normal laptop SKUs behind, and choking the life out of the thermal headroom available for GPUs on laptops. To Hell with thin and light, and Nvidia is really pissing folks off recently. Time for some push back, do not buy into the Thin And light laptop gimping craze!

February 19, 2015 | 11:38 PM - Posted by -- (not verified)

apple pushes this thin nothing design, the normal masses go all iphone over it and now everyone has to follow that trend to be "cool"

blame apple.

February 20, 2015 | 09:01 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Spoken like a true Intel apologist, Apple does not push its design credo on any third party PC/Laptop OEMs, Intel does.
Since when has Intel, a supplier of CPU/SOC parts to the PC/laptop OEM market not had too much control of the supply chain of these essential parts, IBM sure made it so Intel did not get them between a rock, and their supply chain, by forcing Intel to cross license the x86 16/32 bit ISA. ever since Intel got an unhealthy share of the market for CPU/SOC parts it has had too much influence over the PC/laptop OEMs, and Intel's Ultrabook initiative proves the point, Intel is using its unfair market advantage, an advantage gained by a not so fair means, as many court judgments against Intel have forced consent decrees to cease and desist its unfair market practices.

Intel has decided, and used its money, and influence to force the "independent" third party OEMs into a thin and light war with Apple, and the regular laptop form factor designs have suffered from this influence. Intel charges so much for its CPU/SOC parts, that the third party OEMs have been drained of the margins necessary to support any innovation, the third party PC/laptop OEMs are reduced to de facto divisions of the supplier of CPU/SOC parts, and the supplier of OS the parts. Part of this bleeding of margins from the OEMs by Intel/WINTEL, is the reason so much bloatware is found on PC/Laptops shipped, the OEMs are so squeezed by paying the essential parts supplier/s who's high prices, and monopolistic control of the supply chain has resulted in very little innovation, the design philosophy being dictated to third party OEMs by Intel the supplier of the parts.

This type of stifling of innovation is not present in the mobile market, as the essential CPU/SOC parts are not controlled by one manufacturer, the ARM based CPU/SOC parts come from a decentralized market of licensees of the various ARM ISAs, and reference designs that are available to any and all, who can license the designs/ISA from ARM Holdings. This licensed IP market is by its very nature that way of the future for third party device OEMs, as its democratizes the supply chain, IBM sure never let a lowly supplier of CPU parts get them in a bind, and the very reason x86 became the standard was because of supply chain fair competition enforced by IBM, for not so altruistic of reasons. So next time those Nvidia discrete GPUs need some thermal throttling, you can thank the pusher of the Ultrabook form factor, thin and light should never be spoken in the same sentence with gaming laptop!

February 20, 2015 | 02:56 PM - Posted by -- (not verified)

you can stop using wintel. this isn't the 90s

microsoft isn't exactly squeezing OEMs for windows. They get copies cheaper then we could ever see...and even for free at some price points.

February 20, 2015 | 08:13 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Free Bingdows, and WINTEL is still there on PC/Laptops! Bingdows, with more data slurping, talk about Superfishy, what about the start menu search box that says search everywhere, because that's what happens post windows 7, M$ is in the ad pushing business also. M$ free != free of the metrics gathering. Let's shunt all those personal desktop file searches over the interwebs, and while we are at it our OS is now cloudy, with a 100% chance of more data slurping. Yes M$ is squeezing, and those OEMs are the very reason new PC/Laptops mostly come with a M$ tax, they'll get their pound of flesh in OS money up front, or metrics gathering and 30% off of the top from the crAPP store in the rear, either way its skin off of ones A$$! Free windows 10 will morph into windows 365, and a pay to play system. No logging into the cloud, to login to my PC/laptop/other, M$'s cloud has 10 billion eyes, not on my PC/Laptops they are cloud free.

Steam OS can not get here soon enough!

February 21, 2015 | 10:55 AM - Posted by -- (not verified)

you are still confused by simple settings???

February 21, 2015 | 01:22 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

If you can't defend you beloved monopolies, attack the bearer of bad news. The WINTEL monopoly has resulted in much of the stagnation in the PC/ Laptop CPU/SOC market, with the failed 8/8.1 and the "Ultrabook" fiasco, with Intel charging big dollars for dual core U version i7s, it has made by the millions, and ignoring the PC and laptop core i7s, not much improvement since Sandy Bridge in CPUs, and graphics that no serious gamers utilize. The supply channels are full of these underpowered parts, with the full PC/laptop(regular form factor) SKUs delayed, enjoy the thermally constrained Nvidia mobile SKUs thanks to the lack of competition among Laptop OEMs, and the "Ultrabook" form factor designs rammed down the OEMs throats by the unhealthy today, just as much as ever, WINTEL domination of the PC/laptop CPU/SOC/OS supply chain.

Steam is coming, and so are the Licensed Power8's we will see what Intel makes of the market once many licensees begin to offer Power8 variants, outside of IBM's internal use of the parts. I do hope that Apple gets a Power8 license, and a 12 core, 8 threads per core(dynamically scalable threads) CPU will look nice inside the Mac Pro, that's 96 threads of ray tracing rendering, to go along with the dual firepros. Apple could pull it off, and Apple's P.A. semiconductor microarchitecture engineers could probably derive an entire line of PC/Laptop SKUs from the core Power8 design! That's Apple licensed power8's licensed Arm style, from OpenPower, and made at engineering/fab costs, by Apple for Apple, without Intel's middleman markup. Globalfoundries will be making IBM's in-house Power8s/9s, so the process node that works for IBM will work for Apple, and Apple has the cash to loan Globalfoundries to scale out for Apple's needs, should Apple make the switch to power8. Samsung got a lot of help from IBM developing that 14nm process node, and Globalfounderies got license of the 14nm node from Samsung, probably dew to Globalfounderies' contract with IBM, and taking over IBMs commercial fab business. The IBM power8's will become an entire industrie's power8, a la the ARM style licensed IP business model, that mobile market is so full of innovation because of decentralized production of ARM ISA/reference design SOCs across the ARM based industry.

February 21, 2015 | 05:35 PM - Posted by -- (not verified)

the only thing you are bearing is crazy long babble rants nobody reads.

February 23, 2015 | 01:39 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

No the hands that feed you, require as part of your job description for you to attack the poster, and not what is posted. Tell your monolithic monopolistic handler that the licensed IP market, will democratize the Supply chain for essential CPU/GPU/SOC parts. There will be no suppliers with the vice grips to the OEMs Jewels! Expect licensed power8 competition in the server market, and derived from the power8 core microarchitecture laptop/PC parts, as well as competition in the mobile/IOT between licensed ARM and MIPS parts. These licensable reference, and customized designs, will be the basis for the new decentralized source of CPU/SOC parts to an entire industry. If IBM has seen the future, and created the OpenPower foundation with others, to license Power8 and other(CAPI) IP, then you can expect the supply chain of CPU/SOC parts, and GPU(there will be third parties entering the discrete GPU market) parts to become competitive, the unhealthy era of parts suppliers getting the upper hand on OEMs is over! What is happening in the mobile market, from the get-go, will move into the server, and PC/Laptop market, competition among parts suppliers is good for consumers.

February 19, 2015 | 09:08 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I must admit i was impressed that pcper ran with this story on the front page with the title they did. Even more impressive considering this site used to always lean towards nvidia IMHO.

Still great to see the PCPER crew stick up for whats right here - users choice .. goodness knows where it would have lead to otherwise , especially on the desktop also.

I will say however there was considerable voice over at ocn and a petition that gathered more than 500 signatures so whilst pcper helped there were others making plenty of noise re this issue.

I'm even shocked that Nvidia has recanted , i guess with all the hits to their reputation lately they needed to soften their approach to customers.

February 19, 2015 | 10:53 PM - Posted by BSODentushiast (not verified)

nvidia did release lots of stuff in the past 12 months, techsites who discuss and review what's new do seem to lean towards certain product/vendor. Imo, hot links to tech companies' rep are very important for techsites and ryan seems to have good connection with nvidia's division reps. now this, what people look at for being a shill. for me to see a techsite is a shill or not can be seen in many other different ways. hmm, a good idea for a blog topic.

February 20, 2015 | 09:19 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Read the previous article on this and you will see that PCPER actually agreed with Nvidia PR for turning overclocking off bcoz it damages systems they said... PCPCER also said laptops are not desighned to be overclocked, as did nVidia PR.. PCPER did not say Nvidia did wrong to its customers (If so show me where.. link?). PCPER is just covering its ass..

February 20, 2015 | 10:45 AM - Posted by -- (not verified)

covering their ass? or telling the truth?

please, by all means go set your system ablaze.

February 20, 2015 | 12:45 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

Methinks you didn't bother reading the actual post if you think I agreed with them.

February 20, 2015 | 03:52 AM - Posted by JohnGR

"that you would like this FEATURE enabled again"

Wait. I thought overclocking was a BUG.

Ryan, in your next podcast could you please ask Nvidia in a NOT very nice way to UNLOCK THE F$^&^%$$#%^*)_)*G PhysX in their drivers and not lock it when other manufacturer's hardware is detected?(not just AMD, it disables even if you have a USB monitor connected on the system) They can add a warning in their drivers, call it Alpha and unstable and give it with zero support. Thank you. :)

February 20, 2015 | 05:03 PM - Posted by Annoyingmoose (not verified)

No, nvidia hater, no physx for you.

February 20, 2015 | 07:03 AM - Posted by collie

nVidia:"Ummmm, we just wana make great stuff and sell it, why is everyone hattin on us?"

February 20, 2015 | 02:40 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Removing the ability to overclock Maxwell mobile GPUs would of made a hell of a lot more sense if overclocking was not an option in the first place with the FIRST Maxwell mobile GPU driver. Months later it's really hard to see the strategic side of it.

It's like nVIDIA is doing some stupid "let's make this change and see how customers react" moves AFTER a product hits retail. Very very very strange moves from the green team lately.

nVIDIA knows its users overclock, so this is from over.

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