Windows 10 Creators Update Accessible on April 5th

Subject: General Tech | March 31, 2017 - 08:53 PM |
Tagged: windows 10, microsoft, creators update

TL;DR:

  • Windows Update will begin pushing the Creators Update on April 11th
  • Early adopters can, this time, use a tool to force the update as early as April 5th.
  • ISOs are currently available, but marked as Insider Preview.
  • The earlier you update, the more patching you should expect to do, historically.

While Jeremy has already given a brief mention to the news that the Windows 10 Creators Update will begin rolling out on April 11th, Microsoft has just announced that users can opt-in as early as April 5th. If the Anniversary Update is any indication, then the average user should wait until Windows Update devices to passes them the new bits (or longer). In fact, the main reason (besides just liking new things) for forcing an early install should be “it was a convenient time”.

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Of course, as I say this, I’m remembering my experience with the November 2015 update, refreshing Windows Update for two days. I was participating in an Epic Games game jam at the time, and I didn’t want the update to drop right in the middle of my work. It should be any minute now, right? ... Yes, Microsoft giving enthusiasts an explicit opt-in tool is a great step forward. I’m definitely glad they did it. I’m just emphasizing the point that the first few weeks of a Windows feature update are, historically, a bit dicey.

The ISOs for the final build (15063) are already out, but they’re currently on the Windows Insider Program website. I’m not sure if the contents will change at some point, and, if so, when that new ISO will be available for public consumption, so clean installers will probably want to wait a little bit still.

If previous updates are any indication, we’ll be in for about a month or two of updates every week or so until it gradually slows down to “Patch Tuesday”. Or, you can stay on Anniversary Edition (or another OS entirely). Personally, I’ll probably be installing the Creators Update sometime late next week.

Source: Microsoft

March 31, 2017 | 09:01 PM - Posted by Mr.Gold (not verified)

They had a update tools like a week ago.
Tried it 3 times, each time it would just reset my current windows version. And on restart tell me "A new version of windows is available... upgrade??"
say yes, and it would take like an hour to cycle back to the same prompt.

So I might wait past April 11 now for the beta tester to make sure this thing update.

side note: pre-review show the "gaming mode" to me next to worthless on current titles.

So what is this update worth to gamers ?

April 1, 2017 | 06:20 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

MS is showing fantastic incompetence with Win10. Maybe Win10 is even worse than WinME.
I have no problems with Win7, 8.1 was better but Win10... Every "bigger" update reset my login from picture to password, TaskManager settings, email stops working... And SkyPe is special story, when sniffs new version simply locks itself and I have to kill process, restart and select Check for Updates.
From my experience, this update will do a lot of harm and in few days will have roll-back.

April 1, 2017 | 11:57 AM - Posted by flippityfloppit...

I foresee it breaking many a computer and deleting many user installed programs.

Still don't understand how people defend Microsoft and use it's abhorrently disgusting OS these days.

April 1, 2017 | 03:35 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Yes, with that "Gaming" mode having to be tried just too keep all that Spyware/Adware/Bloat turned down so it does not affect the gaming performance. This is what happens over the decades when the politicians become controlled by the big Monopoly interests. This type of crony capitalism is what had occurred under the big railroad and oil trusts(Monopolies) of the latter half of the 19th century and in to the first parts of the 20th and which led to the passing of the first antitrust laws.

M$ should have been Broken Up decades ago, and more competition fostered in the OS market, ditto for the big CPU monopoly Interest. The Internet was just an excuse for some big content production interests and IP service provider interests to get out from under the traditionally regulated markets of before the "Technology" revolution. This is just the same old Interests co-opting things and supporting the new "Technology" market as a way of getting rid of all that 100+ years of regulations that where put in place to rein in the Monopoly markets of old!

Folks have forgotten the history of The glided age and Tammany Hall with all the politicians being beholden to the big Trusts and Interests and now how things are the very same under the vial of the Technology Revolution. So after the parting on the left(beholden to the Big Interests) becoming the parting on the right(beholden to the Big Interests) -->all over again<-- the PC OS end users, IP provider customers, and the hardware end users have been all been so thoroughly screwed again.

April 1, 2017 | 03:57 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Edit: vial of the Technology Revolution.

To: veil of the "Technology Revolution".

LibreOffice your spelling dictionary and context sensitive spelling "Awareness” is failing for folks with dyslexia and similar disorders.

All that Tax Free organization support and the document foundation is failing the one true use of any document software. Spelling and Dictionary/Thesaurus functionality with proper support for those that really need it. You need to stop that LibreOffice feature creep obsession and fix you spelling and dictionary functionality.

Don’t make the folks with disabilities go after your tax exempt status, Document Foundation, just to get your attention. Get some government Grants as a Tax Exempt organization and get your spelling and dictionary/thesaurus support up to the levels that can help for folks with dyslexia and similar disorders. Spelling and contextual spelling functionality as well as full and complete dictionary/thesaurus support for all languages is needed more than some damn ribbon interface nonsense!

April 1, 2017 | 06:02 PM - Posted by CoyLabel (not verified)

First of all, I'd like to say that I love Windows 10. The performance has been on par with what I expect and I have always been able to meet or exceed online benchmarks with my SLI GTX 970's by simply disabling un-needed services without the need for game mode. It seemed like a great idea to have this simplified by the software vendor.

As part of the insider program I took advantage of downloading 15063 and installed the pro version as an upgrade within windows. The entire process was completed in less than 20 minutes. All of my apps still worked, and my current profile settings like wallpaper, icons seemed in tact. I did find, however, that many services I normally keep disabled were re-enabled which is likely part in parcel with an upgrade to any version of windows. I also noticed that my Nvidia driver had SLI enabled, but all game profile settings were reset to default. I changed those settings before, so I know them off the top of my head and was able to confirm they were changed back to the same "high performance/lower quality" settings.

I also lost my color calibration settings done within windows. None of this is a big deal to me.

The re-installation also re-enabled that xbox live game DVR which still required me to sign-in to the XBOX app just to disable it.. (lame)

Now as for gaming performance, the only title I cared to check was The Division because I play entirely too much of it. Prior to the installation, and with the same in game settings my benchmark result was 175 FPS. I ran the exact same benchmark again, and while overclocked with Afterburner the same way, and double checking all clockspeeds, I could not muster any better than 135 fps. I spent the better part of an hour trying to find what else could have changed - without even looking for a way to enable this mysterious game mode. An hour to get the same performance as before the upgrade made it an easy choice to simply re-image back, and as you may have guessed it, the FPS benchmark went straight back to 175 fps as it had been since the update to 1.6.

I am not sure what the problem was, but I hope my situation is not shared by others, or other games, or it will be a rough week for Microsoft.

April 2, 2017 | 12:37 PM - Posted by flippityfloppit...

I think you have Stockholm syndrome.

April 2, 2017 | 01:50 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Straight from and IP address on Madison Avenue that post has most definitely originated from!

"First of all, I'd like to say that I love Windows 10. The performance has been on par with what I expect and I have always been able to meet or exceed online benchmarks with my SLI GTX 970's by simply disabling un-needed services without the need for game mode. It seemed like a great idea to have this simplified by the software vendor."

Look the poster is quoting from a M$/Marketing partner's prepared script with that "disabling un-needed services without the need for game mode" statment and those phone home services will be turned right back on because gaming mode does not work propeerly and M$ needs a work around until and if they can really fix gaming mode.

The very reason for gaming mode in the first place is M$'s tacit admission to the truth that all that spyware, bloatware, adware is bogging down the OS with unecessary CPU processor core/thread cycles stealing crud is affecting the draw call efficiency while games are being played.

It's Stockholm syndrome via some sympathy for that wad-of-cash coming from that nondescript brown envelope sort of arrangement that has captured that poster's services as a spin doctor.

April 3, 2017 | 04:54 AM - Posted by coylabel

I am Canadian. Bought 2nd hand hardware at a deep discount :p

The confirmation on their part was that 3rd parties
install bloatware, in addition to "useless" services they themselves include. EG, I don't have a printer, why do I need a Print Spooler?

If any of you want to do things yourself whether you get this other version or not, Black Viper has a list of the services with some explanations that will help most pick through them yourself with recommendations as to their usefulness.

Additionally, once you get rid of the OS's ability to communicate telemetry access by routing their servers to 0.0.0.0 via an updated hosts file and/or install peer block with Microsoft IP's blocked and/or a 3rd party 2-way firewall that disables Windows Firewall and limit svchost.exe access to DNS servers on UDP port 53 only, the core operating system is better than the previous versions.

You shouldn't have to do any or all of those things but its what you do if you want to use the newer OS.

Besides that, most gamers will need DirectX 12 at some point and those hold-outs clinging to a slower 8 y/o OS will lose support sooner rather than later.

I was not paid by MS.

April 3, 2017 | 12:06 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Blocking some Microsoft domain names is rather pointless as they've been hardcodeding some DNS lookups since the days of XP, a total of 17 domain names are hardcoded in dnsapi.dll so adding those addresses to your host file or blocking them doesn't prevent windows from talking to Microsoft.

The following link provides a list of the hardcoded domain names.
https://www.petri.com/windows-10-ignoring-hosts-file-specific-name-resol...

April 3, 2017 | 09:54 PM - Posted by coylabel

Mostly true.

https://encrypt-the-planet.com/windows-10-anti-spy-host-file/

"Windows 10 does communicate directly to IP addresses which bypass the hosts file. You would also have to block Microsoft’s IP addresses Windows 10 communicates with. To do this you can download and install PeerBlock and use our Microsoft IP Blocklist for PeerBlock. You can use this in conjunction with our hosts file. To learn about how to use PeerBlock with our blocklist look here."

I haven't the time to verify their work, but the peerblock solution at least lets me know when Microsoft is being contacted and blocked. This allowed me to decide which processes I needed and didn't once blocking the access yielding the desired behaviour (no windows update automatically and/or my pc not able to send or receive any data from there)

A 3rd party 2-way firewall also does this without the list if you want to manage turning every windows process' access to the internet off. eg: lsass.exe, svchost.exe. This way they don't need to be blocked because they have no route to get there.

After breaking windows update intentionally, cumulative updates are available through the Microsoft Update Catalog. There really isn't a reason you need to let Windows contact Microsoft, especially if it puts the system's stability at risk.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4000825/windows-10-windows-serv...

That site will get you the updates you can't receive if you choose to disable auto-updating to avoid risks like broken DNS resolution borking normal users internet, dual monitors not working etc..

April 4, 2017 | 03:29 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Sounds like an awful lot of work just to run software that's meant to be operating the system, I'd much rather use an OS that allows me to get some work done than one that needs work doing to it.

April 4, 2017 | 03:48 AM - Posted by coylabel

I can't argue with what should be, as we both would agree that is ideal. I'm not a proponent of their tactics. I do, however, recognize that it would seem that Microsoft, and others are doing it for their own reasons and perhaps due to obligations based on policy in some contries. At least there is a way to work around it.

Eventually, without some some sort of a revolution before then, we'll all be using current/modern software out of necessity. The other current OS's, bloatware, and even some drivers used on older OS's, send data with the only option being to consent if you want to use them. I'll begrudgingly give them consent every day and then refuse to provide a route to their servers.

Following the directions for using a 2-way firewall isn't really isn't all that hard, but it is too much of a PITA for of a good portion of the population to bother with. Some would say that is an opportunity to make a little cash doing setup that can be accomplished in under 5 minutes and requires a few minutes of manual intervention and communication monthly.

April 4, 2017 | 12:23 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

The because others do it argument has never been a good excuses, for many obvious reasons.

April 7, 2017 | 05:25 PM - Posted by coylabel

UPDATED:

Version 1703 15063.13 (the latest cummulative update installed) with the recently released 381.65 Nvidia drivers and the same in-game and driver settings seems to have improved upon 1607 14393.970 performance of 175 FPS to an average of 185 FPS at 1080p.

Gamemode seems to be on by default as found in the Gaming section of the Settings panel. It was easy enough to turn off the game bar as well - there was no need to login to the store app.

Glad to see Nvidia is prompt with driver updates when necessary.

April 3, 2017 | 04:13 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

+1 @flippityfloppityfloop. :)

My captor isn't that bad really, he only tortures me for a few days twice a year.

April 5, 2017 | 12:59 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Your telemetry data hard at work...
Apple does it...
Google does it...
Facebook does it...
Your internet provider does it...
Your cell phone provider does it...
Your utility company does it...
Your local roads & transportation department does it...
Your online shopping company does it...
Your local big business does it...
...Microsoft does it...
grow up really.