Something possible and something true, a little AMD and NVIDIA news for you

Subject: General Tech | January 22, 2019 - 01:30 PM |
Tagged: and, nvidia, leak, linux, 1660 ti, radeon vii

Once again we have an interesting leak from TUM_APISAK, this time about an upcoming NVIDIA product.  The performance of the GTX 1660 Ti may or may not match the benchmark below but if it does we may finally be seeing a new mid-range Turing GPU from NVIDIA.  The GTX naming scheme is worth noting, as it implies this will not feature the Ray Tracing or other enhancements brought by the RTX family and the strange new numbering system implies we might see more.  That lack may help drive the price down, which would give people a chance to pick up something noticeably faster than a GTX 1060.

If you are more interested in verifiable news, The Inquirer also offers that this morning with confirmation of Linux support for AMD's new GPUs right from the very start.  This has been something which we haven't really seen from AMD in the past, with enthusiasts working in the dark to tweak existing open source drivers to power AMD cards.  Over the past few years AMD has been more forthcoming with information that helped in the development of drivers and has been more successful at releasing their own.   This is great news that the new Radeon VII family will be conversant in Linux as of day one; we will keep an eye out for comparative performance once the cards launch.

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"The leaked benchmarks come courtesy serial leaker APISAK, which posted a screenshot of the Ashes of Singularity benchmark showing a GPU called the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti."

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Source: The Inquirer

January 22, 2019 | 02:58 PM - Posted by OldNewsNonNewsReally (not verified)

"This is great news that the new Radeon VII family will be conversant in Linux as of day one"

Really, we already know that Vega 20 has been released since 2018 in the form of the MI50/MI60 and for the server/AI/HPC, and professional visualization, markets and you don't already know that the Linux support was there from day one on the Vega 20 based professional parts that always get their Linux operation up to speed before release to the server/AI/HPC, and professional visualization, market as standard practice!

Let's not reward The Inquirer for stating the obvious becasue Vega 20's Linux suport has been there done that for quite a few months now and Radeon VII is just a consumer bin of the professional Vega 20 DIE. Really Radeon VII's Linux support follows Vega 20's MI50/60 Linux support and that's not new or newsworthy!

This Linux support is the result of Vega 20's server/HPC/AI, and professional visualization, market support that's now months old news. So Gamers's Vega 20's Linux support was the result of the Professional Server/HPC/AI, and professional visualization, folks hard work that's not really funded by any Gaming market investment in Linux Support. And and Radeon VII Graphics support is the result of some professional visualization/Pro Graphics market usage that been planned for Vega 20 in advance.

There will Be Radeon Pro WX Branded Vega 20 SKUs also for the Professional Graphics market, but that's not a gaming oriented market even though it makes use of the same graphics features on the Vega 20 Die.

Folks you all know about the Dual Vega 10 DIEs on one PCIe card, the Radeon Pro V340, that's using 2 Binned Vega 10 DIEs that are binned down to a similar to Vega 56's complement of Shaders:TMUs:ROPs! Well that's most certianly going to be updated using some binned Vega 20 DIEs, and Ditto for all of AMD's Professional GPU variants that will be moved from Vega 10 at 14nm to Vega 20 at 7nm. And all these Cloud Game Streaming SKUs, like the Radeon Pro V340/Newer Vega 20 based Variant, will be doing their thing Headless for Google's/Others Cloud Game streaming services, so that's all Linux Based!

No one at AMD, or Nvidia, is tripping over themselvs to get any consumer Gaming/Linux support because that Linux/Graphics support work is already been done for the Server/HPC/AI, and Pro Graphics Visulation, market that pays for all that Linux work to be done.

Only minor changes to the Linux Graphics drivers will occur for gaming uasge, mostly the gimping of the Graphics drivers for speed and FPS metrics instead of accuracy and image fidelity! The usual Gaming Graphics Driver/Math Libraries gimping toward the quick but dirty end of the usage model that favors FPS metrics above all other metrics.

Any GPU makers' GPU variants that are derived from a professional maket Die/Tapeout like the Vega 20, or GP102/TU102(Quadros), is already going to have full Linux support long before the Pro variants of that Pro DIE/Tapeout are RTM.

January 22, 2019 | 03:03 PM - Posted by OldNewsNonNewsReally (not verified)

Edit: Visulation
to: Visualization

Damn missed that one!

January 23, 2019 | 10:07 AM - Posted by An0n (not verified)

You know, if you're using a verified account, you can perform edits.

Then again, if you did that, you wouldn't be able to use the name blank as the subject line for your walls-of-text-that-nobody-bothers-to-read.

January 23, 2019 | 11:20 AM - Posted by WallzOzTextzGotYourGoatSimulaterByTheGoatee (not verified)

Ah, it's been a good while since I have pissed you off and it feels so good when you are so TRIGGERED!

But that Linux Support on Radeon VII is there not because of gamers down in their dark and dank smelling little basements. That Linux support was there for the Vega 20 based MI50s/MI60s because that's the OS that runs on most servers/HPCs/AI infrencing clusters. So Linux support was there in spite of gamers and not because of gamers.

But you a are one of those dank smelling little gamers that all think that they are the pivots that the whole world turns on. But really Gamers you are just there so the CPU/GPU makers have a place to dump those non-performant CPU and GPU DIEs that do not make the grade to be sold at the higher markups needed to pay for all that expensive R&D and other costs. Consumer/Gamers do not pay their fair share of all the Development Costs related to CPU and GPU engineering and production.

But look at The Inquirer trying its level best to milk that already existing Linux support for page clicks. Oh the gamers in their nether worlds will eat that up but the reality of the CPU/GPU/Processor market is that it's the Professional markets that pay the R&D and engineering bills and the consumer/gamer market's costs are offset by the Professinonal market's markups.

Oh how the truth so angers your one little enfeebled cell of gray floating in that vast sea of lipids beneath that thick bony layer. Just look at that little grey cell twitch! And that twitching it's causing the lipids to boil and smoke to come out of your ears! Ah ha Ha HA! Ah ha Ha HA! He Haw he haw haw! Ah HA HA HA...

January 23, 2019 | 01:49 PM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

Jeremy, some more info for your blurb(or a different blurb). More details about these new Nvidia cards:

GTX 1660ti - will have 6GB of GDDR6 and 1536 cuda cores
GTX 1660 - will have 3 or 6GB of GDDR5 and 1280 cuda cores

https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60030&snA=513218&tnum=5&fbclid=IwAR...

be sure to translate the page

apparently someone at a board partner meeting took a sneaky picture of Nvidia's slide deck and decided to leak the info on the forum

January 23, 2019 | 02:05 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

Interesting, thanks for the link.

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