Rumor: Intel Core i7-9700k Could Have 8 Cores (16 Threads)

Subject: General Tech | November 27, 2017 - 04:19 PM |
Tagged: Intel, amd

WWCFTech has collected a few rumors, based on AIDA64 release notes and HKEPC, about Intel’s CPU launches for the upcoming year. There are some ambiguities, however. First off, WCCFTech believes (although with the level of confidence of a “?” in their table) that these SKUs will be created using some 14nm fabrication process, although the Chinese source calls it Cannonlake, which implies 10nm (unless Intel repurposed the code name).

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The big news, if true, would be that Intel is planning on elevating their top-end mainstream processor to eight cores (sixteen threads). This one-ups (or technically two-ups) the boost given to Coffee Lake a couple of months ago, where we finally exceeded four cores on a non-enthusiast SKU from Intel. Even with this bump, however, AMD’s Ryzen was still a worthy competitor in highly-threaded workloads, such as Handbrake, although Intel had a clear win in many games, especially Hitman (2016).

The original rumor, from HKEPC, doesn’t make any speculations about L3 cache size, although WCCFTech seems confident that it will be 16MB. This is a 33% bump over the i7-8700k, inline with the 33% bump in core count (which doesn’t need to go hand-in-hand, but they believe will in this case).

If you’re hearing this just after purchasing an 8700k, don’t worry too much. HKEPC believes that these processors will launch in the second half of 2018, so you probably still have another nine or ten months with Intel’s best mainstream SKU.

Source: WCCFTech

November 27, 2017 | 05:09 PM - Posted by Lord Frederic (not verified)

Good to see Intel is taking competition from AMD seriously. I hope this will be on 10nm for extra TDP headroom. I've got my digits crossed for a 4.0 or higher base and a 5.0 or higher boost clock. Should provide good future proofing in gaming at least.

November 28, 2017 | 07:45 AM - Posted by Baldrick's Trousers (not verified)

I'm afraid this will be on a further refined version of 14nm++. Intel are still unable to make their 10nm process work properly (which is widely known in the industry). Slapping two extra cores on the x700K SKU is a stop gap measure while they try to fix their 10nm fab.

Meanwhile, AMD will launch their 12nm Zen+ Ryzen refresh in Q1 2018 with expect gains of 10-15%. They will then follow up in Q4 2018 (or Q1 2019) with Zen2 on 7nm. Their 7nm process is progressing very well and is expect to result in big gains for AMD.

November 27, 2017 | 05:20 PM - Posted by AllHailOurOverlordsAtIntel (not verified)

Intel ME still probably going strong. Despite what has happened. Got to love that co-processor and secondary Os hiding under that no-one asked for.

November 27, 2017 | 06:20 PM - Posted by Anonymouse (not verified)

Unfortunately AMD has their own equivalent of the ME (PSP). I guess I'll just be on this Phenom II forever

November 27, 2017 | 05:52 PM - Posted by NotLivingInBlightyWith230V (not verified)

Well at least Intel's U series cores are now at 4 cores/8 threads to compete better with AMD's Ryzen 5 2500U/7 2700U APUs and TechReport(1) has just finished benchmarking HP's Envy x360 with the Ryzen 5 2500U at 15 Watts TDP, and If the Ryzen 5 2500U was in a better Laptop form factor it may have benchmarked better, but it still performed better in graphics against the Intel integrated graphics offerings.

The Ryzen 7 2700U coming in the ASUS laptop if ASUS has the part's cTDP all the way up to 25 Watts is going to do well against the Nvidia mx150(Has its one GDDR5 VRAM) discrete laptop SKU. So the Vega(10-nCUs) graphics in the Ryzen 7 2700U at 25 Watts is going to do better than the Ryzen 5 2500U/Vega(8-nCUs) graphics at 15 Watts that's in the HP Envy x360.

P.S. TechReport went out and purcheaed the HP, and was sampled three Acer Swift 3 systems from Intel, so take that testing with that in mind, But still AMD's Vega Graphics in its APUs are better than Intel's offered integrated graphics. Laptop testing geared towards testing the APU, or CPUs/SOCs, is never really going to be equal unless the same laptop model with the Intel SOC can also be sourced with an AMD APU and the laptop features made as close as possible for actually testing the APUs from AMD against the SOCs from Intel.

"Our thanks to Intel for providing the three Acer Swift 3 systems for our testing. The Alienware 13 R3 playing host to our Core i7-7700HQ is my personal system and was not provided by a manufacturer for evaluation. The Tech Report independently acquired the HP Envy x360 and its Ryzen 5 2500U for testing." (1)

Again it's really had to use different laptop makes amd models to difinitively test an AMD APU against An Intel SOC/CPU-integrated graphics as too many other Laptop testing factors can not be controlled like with desktop benchmarking. And Intel appears to be able to lend plenty of samples to test against one AMD sample that was purchased outright for testing but's that's nothing new.

(1)

"AMD's Ryzen 5 2500U APU reviewed"

https://techreport.com/review/32877/amd-ryzen-5-2500u-apu-reviewed

November 27, 2017 | 05:55 PM - Posted by NotLivingInBlightyWith230V (not verified)

Edit: really had to use different laptop
To: really hard to use different laptop

November 27, 2017 | 06:41 PM - Posted by Gmn17 (not verified)

21 Cannon salute for Intel

November 28, 2017 | 06:16 AM - Posted by Johan (not verified)

This will be competing against Ryzen 2, which will be 12 core CPU's. This we can deduce since Epyc 2 will have 48 cores, which is 4 x 12.

November 28, 2017 | 07:33 AM - Posted by Stash (not verified)

I can't imagine what the ppl that bought the 8700k feels like right now. I would be pissed off.

November 30, 2017 | 09:45 AM - Posted by Anonymous777 (not verified)

They'd probably feel fine. If anybody bought an 8700K, they're probably not your random-joe consumer. They *understand* that new CPUs are announced quickly. They *know* tech cycles out fast. I'm fairly certain you're the only one who's caught off guard, actually.

December 9, 2017 | 05:25 PM - Posted by boe (not verified)

Please tell me this is the rumored 40 pcie lane processor discussed months ago. Intel shafts people who don't buy their $1000 processors on PCIe lanes and even if you pay $1000 for their 10 core processors, it doesn't perform as well as the old $300 6700k and 7700k processors for gaming and consumes more power requiring more cooling.

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