Podcast #475 - Intel with AMD graphics, Raja's move to Intel, and more!

Subject: General Tech | November 9, 2017 - 02:38 PM |
Tagged: video, titan xp, teleport, starcraft 2, raja koduri, radeon, qualcomm, podcast, nvidia, Intel, centriq, amplifi, amd

PC Perspective Podcast #475 - 11/09/17

Join us for discussion on Intel with AMD graphics, Raja's move to Intel, and more!

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Hosts: Josh Walrath, Jeremy Hellstrom, Allyn Malventano, Ken Addison

Peanut Gallery: Alex Lustenberg, Jim Tanous

Program length: 1:29:42

Podcast topics of discussion:
  1. Week in Review:
  2. 0:35:30 CASPER
  3. News items of interest:
  4. Hardware/Software Picks of the Week
    1. 1:13:40 Allyn: Relatively cheap Samsung 82” (!!!) 4K TV
    2. 1:23:45 Josh: 1800X for $399!!!!!
    3. 1:24:50 Ken: The Void Wallet
  5. Closing/outro


November 10, 2017 | 06:12 AM - Posted by Johan Steyn (not verified)

Intel can always hire AMD and nVidia engineers. They have enough money and evil in them.

November 16, 2017 | 05:11 PM - Posted by BillR (not verified)

Don't hold your breath. A new Si architecture for a complex chip takes 4-5 years from start to finish. Intel Itanium took nearly 7-years from start to finish and I think it's safe to say that Intel has reasonable expertise in processors, so no delay in ramp up to get started accounts for the long development cycle. Iterative designs are quicker but can easily take 2-years per cycle once they have an initial design. If Intel is serious they'll need at least 3 full teams so they can leapfrog each other to market adding features and keeping up.

A lot can happen from now to ship time. Intel has started and bailed many GPU efforts, unless we see serious effort on their part (more than just hiring a few really competent outsiders) we should be skeptical that this initiative will be any different from the others.

November 10, 2017 | 10:39 AM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

thumbnail caption:

"Ryan your eyes will stop burning in a few mninutes, I warned you so many times not to pull Allyn's finger"

November 10, 2017 | 12:52 PM - Posted by PCPerBreadzFerFeedinz (not verified)

Oh Omnipotent Foo Man Chu(Jeremy Hellstrom)! We need a writeup on this Sammy Phone Running Ubuntu desktop distro:

The Reg States:

"VIDEO Samsung's shown a little more of its plans to run fully-fledged Linux desktops on its 8-series Galaxy smartmobes.

Samsung teased the idea of Linux on its flagship phones in October 2017, promising that Linux would run in your hand or, if you use its DeX dock, in full desktop mode on a monitor. Now it's released the video below to show off its idea.

Described as a “Concept Demo”, the vid has a couple of interesting moments." (1)


"Samsung shows off Linux desktops on Galaxy smartmobes

Ubuntu – all of it – running Eclipse on a phone, and a DeX dock"


November 11, 2017 | 10:44 AM - Posted by razor512

The problem with the way the logitech harmony link and hum works, is that they designed the firmware to get rid of all local access, instead it functions more like a botnet where you log into a command and control server that just allows you to control your device.

So instead of you touching a button and your device sending a signal over the LAN directly to the link or hub, it instead sends a request to a logitech command and control server, and that server then tells your harmony link or hub to then broadcast the requested IR command. Because of that functioning, if they kill the server or in the case of the link, simply decide to no longer allow the older device to connect to the server, then it is effectively bricked.

This is the same issue with all other IOT devices, instead of allowing local access to the device, in pursuit of planned obsolescence and allowing for new revenue streams by charging for features that were traditionally free with non-IOT devices, they add a ton more points of failure.

November 11, 2017 | 01:02 PM - Posted by LogiProbeAnalTechGotCartmanSinging (not verified)

So Logitech Knows all your habits like when your IOT connected lights are on late at night into the wee hours of the morning and you happen to be around retirement age. And logitech's personal metrics collecting server AI running on those server hosted tensor cores on those GP100 GPU processors inference that maybe the AI should send those metrics over to the sleep aids related folks and assoicated medical sleep apnea MD clinics and such. And Wam Bam your IOT connected fridge's LCD display lights up with related ad content as you reach for the half and half.

And of watch out if you start a small laundry load at an odd time of the day on your IOT connected washing machine right after visiting your IOT connected toilet because at the next IOT connected Smart TV viewing party with family and friends damned if the TV while being brought out of its always on connected sleep state begins displaying ads for adult diapers. Oh those AIs are not very tactful when it comes to things like that, what with current technology not really up to the adult level of cognisance or even a newborn's level either.

But Logitech wants this done via its metrics collecting connected cloud services servers hosted by Amazon/Others with said AI processors as part of the package offered to Logitech/others. Hell Google even has its own tensor cores doing the same sorts of things from its IOT related hardware.

Take it away you fat little cheesy poofs stuffed(logitech brand IOT connected logiAnalProbe) Piggy:

love to sing-a
About the moon-a and the June-a and the spring-a,
I love to sing-a,
About a sky of blue-a, or a tea for two-a,
Anything-a with a swing-a to an "I love you-a,"
I love to, I love to sing!

Give me a song-a
About a son-a gun that went and done her wrong-a.
But keep it clean-a,
With a cottage small-a by a waterfall-a,
Any sob-a that will throb-a to a bluebird's call-a,
I love, I love to sing!

I was born a singin' fool-a,
Ol' Major Bowes is gonna spot me,
Got through Yale with boula-boula,
Old microphone's got me!

I love to sing-a,
I love to wake up with the south-a in my mouth-a,
And wave a flag-a,
With a cheer for Uncle Sammy and another for my mammy,
I love to sing!

The swingin'est,
Hot singin'est,
Song singin'est
High tootin'est,
Sky tootin'est,
I love to sing!

November 13, 2017 | 01:06 AM - Posted by Garrett (not verified)

By those graphs, your telling me the Intel/Polaris part is going to be between a 1050ti and 1060 @35 Watts. That’s such a load a BS!!! LOL

November 13, 2017 | 01:20 PM - Posted by MozeEpycsInDaNews (not verified)

Hey wider Epyc availability and Radeon Open Compute(ROCm) 1.7 with TensorFlow support(1). And that Gigabyte MZ31-AR0 Epyc SP3 single socket motherboard(2) needs some reviewing. Any chance PCPer can get a review sample of that Gigabyte MB and some Epyc 16 and 24 core Epyc single socket "P" Epyc CPU variants to benchmark for Blender/other Workstation workloads?


"AMD Announces Wider EPYC Availability and ROCm 1.7 with TensorFlow Support"



"Gigabyte Epyc/SP3 MZ31-AR0 (rev. 1.0) Motherboard" [single socket]


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