Podcast #460 - ASUS Max-Q, Surface vs. iPad, AMD Q2 Results, and more!

Subject: General Tech | July 27, 2017 - 01:34 PM |
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PC Perspective Podcast #460 - 07/27/17

Join us for ASUS Max-Q, Surface vs. iPad, AMD Q2 Results, and more!

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Hosts: Ryan Shrout, Jeremy Hellstrom, Josh Walrath, Allyn Malventano

Peanut Gallery: Ken Addison, Alex Lustenberg, Jim Tanous

Program length: 1:37:41

 
Podcast topics of discussion:
  1. Week in Review:
  2. News items of interest:
  3. Hardware/Software Picks of the Week
    1. 1:27:00 Allyn: Damn cheap 8TB drives (8TB Helium filled Reds!) ($160)
    2. 1:32:46 Alex: Bullet Bouquets - now with engraving!
  4. Closing/outro
 

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July 27, 2017 | 02:45 PM - Posted by Morbodesu (not verified)

Breaking wend news! Headlines: Morbo hired by Fox News!

in other news:

"AMD Releases Bristol Ridge to Retail: AM4 Gets APUs"

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11669/amd-releases-bristol-ridge-to-retail...

July 27, 2017 | 04:23 PM - Posted by Goofus Maximus

Coming up later, we conduct a scientific poll. Would YOU sell out for 1 Billion? If less, how MUCH less? 1 Million? Free Pizzas for Life? Details at 11:00 Imaginary Standard Time...

Let's see, going by looks, I'd guess Ryan Shrout is your roving reporter, Alan is the anchor, Jeremy is the political commentator, and Josh is either weather or sports...

July 27, 2017 | 05:37 PM - Posted by pdjblum

is it true that trudeau is considering Jeremy for CTO of his administration?

July 28, 2017 | 11:39 AM - Posted by msdhx (not verified)

"EEC, Eurasian Economic Commission is a regulatory body similar to Korean KCC or US FCC. Before any product enters the market it needs to be certified. This applies to all electronic devices, including graphics cards."(1)

Vega Listing, GPU Variant, Comments

VEGA11 XT AIB MBA VEGA 11 XT Vega 11 XT for AIBs
VEGA11 PRO AIB MBA VEGA 11 PRO Vega 11 PRO for AIBs
VEGA10 XT MBA DTOEM VEGA 10 XT Vega 10 XT for OEMs
VEGA10 XL MBA DTOEM VEGA 10 XL Vega 10 XL for OEMs
VEGA10 XT MBA AIB VEGA 10 XT Vega 10 XT for AIBs
VEGA10 XL MBA AIB VEGA 10 XL Vega 10 XL for AIBs
VEGA10 XTX LIQUID MBA AIB VEGA 10 XTX Vega 10 XTX for AIBs (LIQUID EDITION)
VEGA10 XT MBA AIB Reggs FCST VEGA 10 XT Vega 10 XT for AIBs
VEGA10 XTX LIQUID MBA AIB Reggs VEGA 10 XTX Vega 10 XTX for AIBs (LIQUID EDITION)
VEGA10 XTX AIR MBA AIB VEGA 10 XTX Vega 10 XTX for AIBs (AIR EDITION)
VEGA10 XTX AIR MBA AIB Reggs VEGA 10 XTX Vega 10 XTX for AIBs (AIR EDITION)
VEGA10 XT MBA DTOEM DELL NO EXTENDER VEGA 10 XT Vega 10 XT for OEMs
VEGA10 XT MBA DTOEM Dell med EXTENDER VEGA 10 XT Vega 10 XT for OEMs
AMD FirePro VEGA12XT WORKSTATION FCST VEGA 12 XT VEGA 12 XT FIREPRO
AMD FirePro VEGA11PRO WORKSTATION FCST VEGA 11 PRO VEGA 11 PRO FIREPRO
AMD FirePro VEGA11XT WORKSTATION FCST VEGA 11 XT VEGA 11 XT RADEON PRO
VEGA10 GLXT V320 MBA VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO
VEGA10 GLXT MI25x2 MBA VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT Dual INSTINCT MI25
VEGA10 GLXL WX8100 MBA VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO WX8100
VEGA10 GLXT WX9100 MBA VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO WX9100
VEGA10 GLXT V340 MBA, VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT FIREPRO
VEGA10 GLXT MI25 MBA VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT INSTINCT MI25
VEGA10 GLXT SSG MBA VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO VEGA SSG
VEGA20 GL HPC 32GB OEM FCST VEGA 20 GL Vega 20 32GB INSTINCT/RADEON PRO OEMs
VEGA20 GL HPC 32GB CHANNEL FCST VEGA 20 GL Vega 20 32GB INSTINCT/RADEON PRO AIBs
VEGA20 GL HPC 16GB CHANNEL FCST VEGA 20 GL Vega 20 16GB INSTINCT/RADEON PRO AIBs
VEGA20 GL HPC 16GB OEM FCST VEGA 20 GL Vega 20 16GB INSTINCT/RADEON PRO OEMs
VEGA10 GLXT MI25 MBA GIBRALTAR ES VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT INSTINCT MI25
VEGA10 GL XT SSG CHANNEL FCST VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO VEGA SSG
VEGA10 GLXL WX8100 MBA FTS FCST VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO WX8100
VEGA10 GLXT MI25 MBA GIBRALTAR QS VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT INSTINCT MI25 Qual. Sample
VEGA10 GLXT MI25 MBA GIBRALTAR VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT INSTINCT MI25
VEGA10 GLXT SSG MBA Reggs FCST VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO VEGA SSG
VEGA10 GLXT WX9100 MBA Reggs FCST VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO WX9100
VEGA10 GLXT MI25 MBA LENOVO FCST VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT INSTINCT MI25 LENOVO
VEGA10 GLXT SSG MBA Reggs LTD ED FCST VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO VEGA SSG LIMITED EDITION
VEGA10 GLXT WX9100 MBA Reggs LTD ED FCST VEGA 10 GLXT Vega 10 GLXT RADEON PRO WX9100 LIMITED EDITION (1)

(1)

"AMD Vega 10, Vega 11, Vega 12 and Vega 20 confirmed by EEC"

video cardz dzot. co m -> dat s p am filter<- no like

July 28, 2017 | 04:58 PM - Posted by FoxconnFairEnBalanced (not verified)

In other other news: Apple supplier Foxconn will be building a new factory in Wisconsin with the help of some Billions in Tax concessions/incentives and will employ about 3000(Cough, ROBOTS) to supply Apple's voracious iThingy needs.

According to The Verge(Of Madness):

"Wisconsin will offer up to $3 billion in tax breaks to the Taiwanese company over 15 years. Up to $1.5 billion of that tax credit is for job creation; $1.35 billion is for capital investment; and up to $150 million is for the sales and use tax exemption (or no sales tax for construction materials). Wisconsin says these incentives will cost between $200 million and $250 million a year. Once fully staffed, the government estimates that Foxconn will spend $700 million a year. Still, the facility won't be operational until 2020, if everything stays on track."

In a related twist, each of the Foxconn factory's new employees will recieve a new uniform done up in the UW Badgers Color scehme via three layers of highly wear/rust resistent powder epoxy coating.

July 28, 2017 | 10:59 PM - Posted by Goofus Maximus

Will they build that one after the one they promised to build in Pennsylvania all those years ago? I trust Foxconn's promises about as far as I can throw their factories.

July 29, 2017 | 09:59 AM - Posted by YourRoboticOverlordsNeverSleep (not verified)

They will not build factories in the US unless the majority of the factory jobs are done by ROBOTS/Automation. This is because that after any human labor costs are eliminated, other costs, like shipping/logistics costs, will influence where a factory is located. So with most of the cost of the human labor eliminated the Shipping Cost are the next in line to be reduced by locating the factories closer to where the factory goods/parts are needed.

As lower ROBOT workers costs replace most of human worker related costs, then factory management will start working to eliminate most of the shipping/logistics expenses and the factory production can be moved anywhere closer to where the factory's output is consumed. Factory location will be determined more by distance from the markets where the goods are sold/parts produced are needed. That’s not such good news for the long distance ocean based shipping industry(More Costly greater time to reach markets), less so for any shorter distance rail(less costly faster time to reach market), and all the way down to the regional/local shipping that cost least and take the shortest time to reach market.

Management will be trying their hardest to automate shipping by boat, train, or truck and even the loading and unloading docks will be/already are automated to eliminate as much of the human labor costs as is possible with current levels of technology. ROBOTS do not need a living wage, or any high cost health insurance plans. So any and all types of unskilled/low skilled human labor that can be easily automated will be the first to go. Even any of the robot repair work at many factories will see robot technicians simply swapping out the malfunctioning/broken ROBOTS with the broken ROBOTS shipped to a localized robot regional repair facility to be fixed in an as automated manner as is possible(ROBOTS Repairing ROBOTS).

It will be Foxconn ROBOTS doing most of those jobs in the land of cheese and dairy cows and the out of work voters will not have much say in that automation process. And Foxconn will save on its shipping costs by having more factories located inside the first world markets, as well as the low wage markets. There will be no great difference in the costs of ROBOT labor across the globe as there is with the human labor costs differences and it will then be a factor shipping and logistics expenses making up a larger percentage of any end products’ total costs.

There will be the few shorter term construction jobs to be had as the automated factories are built up around the globe closer to where their output is consumed but even the construction of the factories themselves will be more automated, as the construction Industry will see its fair share on automation also.

Do ROBOTS Dream of Electric Sheep, and no-cost labor manufacturing schemes, Of a wonderous automated world to behold video eyes, Where ONLY ROBOT Workers Need Apply!

July 30, 2017 | 02:47 PM - Posted by MoPlantsFewJobsForMeatSacks (not verified)

So they are calling it Reshoring where ROBOTS reduce the human labor side of the cost equation and make any shipping cost a larger factor in the end products' cost equation. So IF you are in the US it's time to get the right training in ROBOTIC instillation/Robotic learning/ and some construction/fabrication learning that has to to with constructing automated factories in the US and elseware because the factories are coming back but not the factory/production jobs as much. Get ready for jobs where a single person in is a factory setting mostly monitoring the ROBOT/automated lines but not actually assembling any products.

From the ZDNet article linkd to below:

"Sandy Montalbano D'Amico, Consultant to the Reshoring Initiative, tells ZDNet that companies like Nike and Adidas are using robotics to achieve a "local for local" business model. They are moving production closer to consumers in order to capitalize on current trends faster and reduce costs.

She explains, "The benefit of local for local or reshoring manufacturing is in the total costs. Offshore apparel manufacturing leads to high shipping costs, high carrying costs of large inventories and long lead times. Reshoring allows for smaller batches with more flexibility for customization, style changes and delivering the product to stores on time for consumers."... "(1)

(1)

"Made in the USA -- by robots

Robotic sewing machines help bring clothing manufacturing back to the US."

http://www.zdnet.com/article/made-in-the-usa-by-robots/

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