Podcast #397 - AMD Radeon Pro Duo, NZXT Manta, AMD's new deal with China, and more!

Subject: General Tech | April 28, 2016 - 01:50 PM |
Tagged: video, radeon pro duo, podcast, nzxt, nvidia, Manta, GTX 1080, GT 710, GP104, amd, Alpha 12

PC Perspective Podcast #397 - 04/28/2016

Join us this week as we discuss the AMD Radeon Pro Duo, NZXT Manta, AMD's new deal with China, and more!

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April 28, 2016 | 01:54 PM - Posted by collie

it was awesome to watch live, thanks for the great show!

April 28, 2016 | 03:18 PM - Posted by PapaDragon

Been watching the last few episodes live via facebook, keep up the good work guys!

April 28, 2016 | 09:24 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Is Ken still alive or did Seal Team Six do its duty?

April 29, 2016 | 09:23 AM - Posted by YTech

I've been finding the shows lately to be weak on the information aspect.

I was hoping for more details about the AMD Duo that hasn't been covered through other media. I suppose this will be unveiled in the next month.

April 29, 2016 | 12:37 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

It's not a gaming only focused SKU, it's more of a lower cost profesional use/VR development SKU, for those that need to have some GPU compute/pro drivers to develop applications for those markets. It can be used for gaming but this SKUs is not going to be marketed to only the gaming community.

April 29, 2016 | 02:09 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

It isn't necessarily only for VR development. I think they are trying to push multi-gpu development more than anything else. I suspect that multi-gpu will be much more common going forward. It might not be mainstream until Navi generation though.

April 29, 2016 | 03:05 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Look they are providing professional driver options for this SKU, and the savings on this SKU over a branded FIREPRO SKU is thousands of dollars, so yes for development on pro systems without all the costs. There are some things missing from this SKU that are on the More expensive professional branded systems, but that's not a factor for the software development stage, it's more of something that is necessary for production systems, but not for the development systems. And that would be more about the built in error correcting/other circuity that has to be present in the full Branded FIREPRO production SKUs, and a lot of that error correcting circuity is transparent to any software, so these lower cost SKUs make for a more affordable development solution for developers to use to develop for the FIREPRO ands VR markets.

They can be used for gaming with the gaming oriented drivers installed, and gaming oriented drivers skimp on the accuracy of their math libraries in favor of the speed compared to the professional certified to work with the professional software packages drivers and their math libraries that have to be very accurate to many more decimal places at the expense of speed and FPS.

And these SKUs has been marketed directly to the VR development market/professional development market with the extra packages created by AMD for just such development uses like VR/Other computational uses!

April 29, 2016 | 01:50 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

"Linux greybeards release beta of systemd-free Debian fork"
"Devuan 'Jessie' betas debut in the name of 'Init freedom'"


Maybe a Steam OS/Non systemd version of Valve's OS, and mabe some other Devuan derived down stream Linux kernel/Devuan based distro!

systemd the blob that ate Godfrey Cambridge, and set it's sights on Steve McGueen, drive that car Fast Steve! Fast as you can away from that systemd before it eats everything Linux distro related.

April 30, 2016 | 12:04 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

"Intel loses its ARM wrestling match, kicks out Atom mobe chips"(1)

"Intel has thrown in the towel on smartphone processors after losing round after round against the ARM architecture – the dominant brains of the mobile world.

Intel today scrapped the development of its Atom processor codenamed Broxton, which was aimed at powering high-end smartphones and tablets.

Broxton was expected to emerge about a year ago as a 14nm quad-core x86 CPU using Goldmont cores. Now Intel has canned that effort – and hopes instead to sling Goldmont-based Apollo Lake Pentiums and Celerons, plus Skylake Core M components, at tablets and slab-like PCs."...



April 30, 2016 | 06:14 PM - Posted by John Pombrio

AMD kind of slipped one by the financial analysts about their Net revenue for Q1 2016. Somehow, the $52 million dollar bribe, err, investment into the AMD/China deal was slipped into the revenue without any specific line item to point it out. Without that $52 million influx, AMD actual revenue was only $830 million, grossly under even the most pessimistic analysts predictions. AMD sold off 1,700 employees, capital assets in China, and licensed some of its most important Intellectual Property for $52 million plus $25 million next quarter, and the "rest" of the $350 million is solely depending on the venture making good sales. I personally think it is a really bad deal for AMD.

May 1, 2016 | 01:35 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Did it violate any Generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) rules or International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS)?

"licensed some of its most important Intellectual Property" Well ARM holdings makes most all of its income licensing IP, as does Imagination Technologies, and IBM/partners via OpenPower for the Power8s/Power9s. Hell IBM could become just like ARM Holdings with its research division(World Class with the patents to prove it), and survive just fine supplying the power8/power9 and future designs to an eagerly waiting world market(Google included with power9s and Pascal/Volta accelerators).

One day both Intel and AMD may have to create a 50/50 partnership and license the x86 IP for others to produce, and AMD itself is an ARM licensee, and should get a power8/power9 license from openpower and go to work making some power based server/other APUs on an interposer designs, along with some K12 custom ARM design server/other APUs on an interposer SKUs, the same for AMD's x86 server/other APUs on an interposer to mix more than one ISA with AMD's other IP like GPU/interconnect IP.

The Licensed IP business model is going to rule the roost in the entire computing world in not too many more years. Just you look and the ARM market and see how that world economy of scale works out for many mobile devices OEMs!

May 3, 2016 | 07:55 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Hey Moron Pombrio,

AMD only booked seven million to other revenue on the server deal in Q1. They will be booking $25 million this quarter. The remaining $20 million will be taken as other revenue in Q3 and Q4. This was not and will not be taken on the topline of the financials.

The only thing slipped is your lack of understanding of accrual accounting.

Companies that are SEC compliant have to use accrual accounting and match revenue to the period in which it has been earned. Not when the cash is received.

Go back to your drawing board and come up with another conspiracy theory.

May 1, 2016 | 06:01 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Cortana and Bing sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G,
First comes UWP love,
Then comes App Store/OS Marriage,
Then comes Baby, pay me 30%
Haul away the CASH in Baby Carriage!

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