Podcast #354 - AMD R9 Fury X, R9 Nano, ASUS Zenfone2 and much more!

Subject: General Tech | June 18, 2015 - 02:03 PM |
Tagged: podcast, video, amd, radeon, R9, fury x, Fury, Fiji, fiji xt, r9 nano, fiji x2, project quantum, asus, zenfone 3, g751j, gameworks, nvidia, metal gear solid

PC Perspective Podcast #354 - 06/18/2015

Join us this week as we discuss the AMD R9 Fury X, R9 Nano, ASUS Zenfone2 and much more!

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June 18, 2015 | 02:42 PM - Posted by fkr

the live show was hilarious. mcafee ftw

June 18, 2015 | 06:04 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Awesome podcast @joshtekk

June 19, 2015 | 01:51 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

you guys forgot to introduce yourselves, was waiting for josh's but the impression was good enough.

June 19, 2015 | 08:11 AM - Posted by John H (not verified)

There is one other benefit of the water cooled Fury X -- the cooler a chip runs, the less power it consumes... Therefore if you're running TDP limited, 50C might give you 5-10% more power to work with than 75C. That's a lot more wattage than the water pump consumes..

June 19, 2015 | 10:00 AM - Posted by funandjam

#joshtekk is going to get me into trouble. My boss was giving an evil eye for LOL while listening to this podcast at work. :)

June 19, 2015 | 11:40 AM - Posted by Josh Walrath

I approve of this message!

June 19, 2015 | 10:47 AM - Posted by Holyneo's (not verified)

About the power supply on the AMD's Small Form Factor Project Quantum PC, I don't mind the external power being out of the box. Consoles have done it for years, it makes sense to me to transition to that design to be more competitive in drawing in some console people to the PC market.

I can see my friend saying, I got the new Xbox One, then I could be like, o yeah check out my system. Especially with win 10 making it possible for the 2 systems to be able to play together between the two systems.

The guy with the Xbox would be jealous and would be interested in a Quantum PC. He might not admit it, but he would be thinking of making a Quantum style PC.
:)

June 19, 2015 | 05:53 PM - Posted by onion uk (not verified)

ryan was trying to say aspirational product

June 20, 2015 | 09:37 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Only one problem, no graphics cards with HDMI 2.0 in 2015

AMD Radeon Fury X doesn't have HDMI 2.0 support

no 960/970/980 not support HDMI 2.0

980ti 30% stronger than -970 and has NO HDMI 2.0 !
960 / 970 not have Really HDMI 2.0 the data bandwidth 8.16 GBPS and no 18 gbps

look a little history here:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img90/790/6800.png

standard v1.4 out with bandwidth was 5.4GBPS for video and not 10.2 GBPS
why you ask ?
very simple, very weak card processor .
( to work with 18GBPS you need 1.8 times the power
who going to buy video card that take 800w ?
Video card heat will burn the card )
only when we arrived to 28 NM we get to HDMI 1.4 = 8.16 gbps

so how do you want 18 GBPS?
in 28 nm card ?

you can't use DP 1.2 IN hdmi 2.0 PORT because there are differences in power DP1.2 300mhz
hdmi 2.0 600 mhz .

DP 1.3 for 9 months already out and no video card
why you ask ?
again weak video card 28NM
only the next generation 16NM we see DP 1.3

If you can not play UHD Bluray or HDR or Netflix with NVIDIA 960/970/980
what HDCP 2.2 it is ?
what hdmi 2.0 it is ?
you can't have DCI - P3 coloer
NVIDIA data bandwidth 8.16 GB

no THIS card not have HDMI 2.0
Without appropriate Chip .
they not have SiI9777 Chip
http://www.siliconimage.com/Company/News_and_Events/Press_Releases/2014_...

to speak from video card to screen display or Blu-ray is a need to Chip in any device
the chip need Protocol of the HDMI 2.0
ONLY Silicon Image make that chip for HDMI Organization

nvidia 960/970/980 not have SiI9777 Chip
no hdcp2.2
no HDR
no bandwidth 18GBPS
no DCI-P3 COLOER ?

this the card 980TI where the SiI9777 Chip ?
http://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/news/2015-06-17/...

yes this very easy to prove
ask in written confirmation from NVIDIA video card that thay have :
SiI9777 Chip on video card
hdcp2.2
HDR
andwidth 18GBPS
DCI-P3 COLOER

i try 3 time from nvidia and no reply !
what they have to hide ?

Lacking the available bandwidth to fully support 4K@60Hz until the arrival of HDMI 2.0, the latest crop of 4K TVs such as the Sony XBR 55X900A and Samsung UE40HU6900 have implemented what amounts to a lower image quality mode that allows for a 4K@60Hz signal to fit within HDMI 1.4’s 8.16Gbps bandwidth limit.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8191/nvidia-kepler-cards-get-hdmi-4k60hz-s...

June 23, 2015 | 12:59 PM - Posted by Allyn Malventano

Why are you linking to Kepler stuff when the 960/970/980 are Maxwell (and support 4k60 RGB / 4:4:4 over HDMI)?

June 20, 2015 | 01:27 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Hopefully in the future AMD could get the its Fury X2 GPUs sharing an interposer, instead of sharing the PCB, as sharing an interposer would give AMD the ability to connect the two GPUs with much wider and extensive networks of connecting traces/fabrics, and give the two GPUs an ability to act as a single larger monolithic GPU does. The possibilities made available with an interposer, and its ability to host 10s of thousands of distinct traces will allow for much closer integration of GPUs linked together modularly via the interposer's wide data paths, and allow more powerful GPU systems to be made from any size of GPU. future gaming systems on the interposer could have multiples of GPUs placed on the interposer, and allow for the GPU dies to be manufactured more to a wafer, saving more on yield losses, and allowing AMD to size its GPU power based on the number of GPU modules per interposer package.

HBM/GPU is just the start of complete scalable gaming systems on an interposer, and CPUs, FPGAs, as well as dedicated decoder chips could be added to the interposer, and because of the interposer's wide/thousands of traces ability, these modular components can be fabbed separately from the most suitable fab process for their functionality, and because of the interposer base system abilities, these systems could act as essentially one larger monolithic single die based SOC. The future is in the System on an interposer, with the modularity afforded by interposer's wide connection fabrics to every device placed on the interposer.

June 20, 2015 | 01:28 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

edit: could get the its
to: could get its

June 21, 2015 | 09:36 AM - Posted by Martin Trautvetter

You sure seem excited about these fancy new wires.

"The future is in the System on an interposer"

No, it's a transitional tech at best.

June 21, 2015 | 10:41 AM - Posted by collie

I dissagree, atleast in theory. Interposer tech has the POTENTIAL to completly change the way systems are built. If it continues to be used and evolves to it's naturaul conclusion than one day you could say "I'd like X amount of cpu cores Y gpu power with Z sound and This amount of ram and that extra bit there," and 72 hours or whatever later you get a single 3d chip to plug into your generic 1 fits all just ports and pathways mother board with the only bottle neck being the conections from the "super chip" to the input/output devices.

NOWWWWW i'm not saying that this WILL happen. I'm saying it COULD happen. technology come and go, and alot of the time the wrong tech will win due to other market forces luck or marketing.

The only way to know what's gona happen it to wait for it to happen and look back.

June 29, 2015 | 11:39 AM - Posted by Spacey (not verified)

I call BS on the idea that there is any technical reason why a HD can't be cloned to an identical size HD. This is normal and is done every day. Any supposed "clone" hardware or software feature that can't clone to an identical disk is just broken.

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