Love upgrading memory on your laptop? Double check any Apollo Lake machines you like.

Subject: General Tech | August 24, 2016 - 01:01 PM |
Tagged: ultraportable, LPDDR4, Intel, apollo lake

A report from DigiTimes is bad news for those who like to upgrade their ultraportable laptops.  To cut down on production costs companies like Acer, Lenovo, Asustek Computer, HP and Dell will use on-board memory as opposed to DIMMs on their Apollo Lake based machines.  This should help keep the costs of flipbooks, 2 in 1's and other small machines stable or even lower them by a small amount but does mean that they cannot easily be upgraded. Many larger notebooks will also switch to this style of memory so be sure to do your research before purchasing a new mobile system.

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"Notebook vendors have mostly adopted on-board memory designs in place of DIMMs to make their Intel Apollo Lake-based notebooks as slim as possible, according to sources from Taiwan's notebook supply chain"

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August 24, 2016 | 01:38 PM - Posted by BlackDove (not verified)

Anyone else notice how the worthless dollar is making the gap between high end and "normal" consumer level stuff bigger?

As time passes, technology is supposed to progress and goods are supposed to get better.

The level of cost cutting in consumer level hardware is absurd. Perhaps its being nostalgic(not really, since its one of many recession cycles) but i remember when the new versions of things were better than the ones they replaced.

Laptops and prebuilts are either insanely expensive or trash like this. Same thing with TVs. There is hardly any "mid range" in consumer electronics anymore. Its either nice and expensive or plastic that falls apart when you breathe on it.

August 24, 2016 | 08:28 PM - Posted by raschmidt (not verified)

Asus has the UX series which is pretty reasonably priced. HP and Dell also offer really good laptops under $1000.

August 24, 2016 | 02:19 PM - Posted by FireFlux

This is a bad thing. If the memory goes defective, well you need a new laptop. This is quite the crap.

August 24, 2016 | 04:49 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Thats the point, its called "built in obsolescence".
and thats what people in suits want.

August 24, 2016 | 03:47 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Solution, avoid these SKUs like the plague and there needs to be more consumer dissatisfaction for any laptops gimped in such ways. Let these products gather dust unsold on the shelves! Laptops are thin and light enough, now they are talking anorexic and about to die. And the OEM wonder why the PC/laptop market is shrinking year on year!

August 24, 2016 | 04:54 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

but 99.99% of the consumers lack common sense, they are happy to be shepherded like sheep.

August 24, 2016 | 04:52 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

People should avoid these types of electronics. no matter whats your technical skill level, if its purposely made this way, they avoid them like HIV.
Consumer should dictate the market, not the other way around.
But hey, people with common scenes are the minority now a days.

August 24, 2016 | 07:53 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Appollo Lake is the new Atom. We are talking 200USD laptops so it is perfectly understandable. Move on.

August 25, 2016 | 12:20 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

It is all Apple's fault for foisting the thin trend of laptops onto the iSheep crowd who force manufacturers to make laptops so thin that nothing can be replaced when a part fails.

August 25, 2016 | 10:39 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

It's Intel's fault for pushing its Ultrabook(TM) initiative and forcing the third party laptop OEM's into the Apple style marketing driven thin and light madness! Had Intel not tried to use its heavy hand and brown cash envelope methodology to force this form factor onto the larger consumer market Apple's customers would have been the only ones to suffer. Apple had no interest in seeing the rest of the laptop market adopt any of Apple’s trademark obsessions with thin and light and style over substance at the expense functionality and performance.

Intel has been one of the main reasons for the shrinking PC/Laptop markets by forcing/Influencing the Third Party OEM laptop makers into its nefarious Ultrabook laptop designs engineered to use Dual core U/M i7s that where gimped down and sized smaller to get more chips per wafer, and the Dual Core Ultrabook SOC SKUs where priced like some of the past generations of Intel quad core i7s, with the gimped down dual core i7s sold to the public as power saving. Intel even tried to push this onto the Gaming Laptop market, resulting in even gaming laptops that lacked enough thermal headroom and cooling capacity to keep the gaming laptops from throttling.

Apple has no interest in any market outside Apple’s closed and rarefied air of smugness ecosystem and obsession with design over all else. Intel as an abusive monopoly SOC market share interest is what has lead to the Apple style Thin and Light obsession being forced onto the larger laptop market, and Intel saw great opportunity to exploit that irrational obsession to get its dual core U/M i7’s that where cheaper to produce per wafer(More per wafer) and create an artificial air of exclusivity and high pricing for even less performance/dollar than ever before. Intel was already making the gimped dual core U/M i7s for Apple anyways, so Intel saw an opportunity to exploit the gimped SOC SKUs it was producing for Apple and bring that profit milking scheme to a wider market!

August 27, 2016 | 09:16 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

You don't need to protect Apple who came up with the idea of thin and light laptops. It was Apple dictating to Intel to make thin and light chips for their ill-conceived thin laptops in the first place.

Steve Jobs is dead and Tim Crook is carrying out the dictatorship on the thin and light laptop mantra.

August 25, 2016 | 09:28 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

This has been the case for years in thin & light laptops, since at least Sandy Bridge.

April 10, 2018 | 01:44 PM - Posted by John Dean (not verified)

Most of the sleek laptops are using sorted memory which cannot be upgraded. This is an issue as the customers don't know about this and later when they try to upgrade their memory, there are no options left. You can contact your device manufacturer like in my case I contacted HP Support Number to know if my device support memory expansion.

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