It's about damn time; Windows Defender will start removing those bloody registry cleaners

Subject: General Tech | February 1, 2018 - 01:40 PM |
Tagged: registry cleaner, windows 10, microsoft, windows defender, crapware

Have you experienced the sheer frustration of explaining to a friend or family member that the reason their machine slowed down somewhat and is generating popups at a fearsome rate is because of the crapware they downloaded and not your ministrations?  Convincing someone who installed a registry cleaner or supposed driver update tool that that software is the root of their suffering can be as profitable as arguing with a brick wall that it is mostly empty space and thus you should be able to walk through it; in other words an exercise in futility.  Come March, Windows Defender will remove many of the more questionable ones automatically, though The Inquirer suggests some of the more innocuous ones may remain.

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"We've all been there - warnings of out of date drivers, thousands of registry errors, and usually with a message claiming "we'll fix 30 for free, then you pay". Most of it is utter twaddle and won't affect your computing experience at all. In fact, in a lot of cases, they do more harm than good."

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Source: The Inquirer

February 1, 2018 | 03:37 PM - Posted by razor512

Why hasn't that been done years ago. applications like malwarebytes and many others view those kinds of applications as malware.

Those fixer and registry cleaner applications should be blocked as soon as their installation file is detected.

Also they should use the malicious software removal updates to automatically remove any of those PC optimizer applications, as well as those random toolbars,and other general crap that novice users bog their system down with because they click on every ad they see.

February 1, 2018 | 06:54 PM - Posted by OEMsCrapCanBeWorse (not verified)

They should remove all the cruft installed by Google's toolbar and Google update service that remains after the toolbar is uninstalled. Something from Windows Defender to track down all the bits and pieces and empty folders that remain after some uninstallers do not do their job properly! So having that built into the OS would be nice.

And how about returning back user control over updates, that forcing is not helping at all with graphics dirvers problems and other such borkings.

Maybe making PC/Laptop OEM's make use of a standardized function key interface/API with hotkeys the same for turning on/off WiFi, or volume controls, etc. Some laptop OEMs system software is pure crap with keeping the WiFi turned off until the user wants to tunn on the wifi, Samsung's laptops come to mind for that problem. A lot of the OEM crap is just as bad as those "Cleaners" and other such useless software.

February 2, 2018 | 04:02 AM - Posted by WhyMe (not verified)

If they did it years ago it probably would've classed Microsoft's own efforts to get people to upgrade to Windows 10 as scareware. ;-)

February 2, 2018 | 08:26 AM - Posted by NotADefenderOfThatRedmondFaith (not verified)

Not really as M$ has had that malicious software removal tool around for ages with is updates(Optional under win 7), it's just Redmond moving that over to Windows Defender. And really any security software should give users the option to remove or not remove, just like the OS needs to go back to individual patches with the user having the option of installing or not installing any patches not clearely marked as for security, and even for security patches if there are reports of security patches borking things. Optional Updates should be optional with users never having to install bloatware and other useless software.

I think that folks that installed windows 10 and enabled M$ to do it's nefarious best are going be in for one very rude awakening as M$ really brings on its closed ecosystem in full force come 2020. That bundling of Windows 10 on new hardware will eventually and forcably get 10 to that majority of the windows OS installed base. And 2020 will see many installing a Linux Kernel based Hypervisor managed bare metal VM just to continue running windows 7 safely on a locked down virtual hardware OS isntance.

Windows 10 spyware, and bloatware reinstalling of candy crush and other useless crap will get worse and a large chunk of the PC gaming market will get locked in to UWP and the App Store with no other options. M$'s own nefarious efforts to foist that windows 10 closed ecosystem that will really become an OS as a service after 2020 when windows 7 goes EOL is well despised for what M$ attempted and some folks took M$ to court and win judgments for all the damages(lost work/disrupted businesses) done.

Windows 7 is the new XP, and the mainstream Ryzen 8 core SKUs will make running those VMs very easy with plenty of available processor cores/threads in which to host that windows 7 OS instance and safely avoid windows 10 until the cows come home. Maybe there will be a windows 7 subsystem for Linux and there are many working on some DX12 to Vulkan API translations layers and there is Wine is a Windows subsystem running under the Linux Kernel and on many Linux OS distros.

Linux gaming is getting really good lately and there is still 2 more years before 7's EOL and 5 more until 8.1 is history. The nice thing about AMD's graphics is that their Vulkan software has gone full open source but RADV appears to currently be more performant. Linux and its subsystems for running very safely windows 7 in a locked down VM Instance will be very popular as was windows XP run in the very same environment. There is much work being done with getting all versions of DX## some DX## to Vulkan translation going on and any DX ONLY dependent games/gaming engines running on Linux.

February 1, 2018 | 08:49 PM - Posted by willmore

If they're serious about this, they'd remove their own ad ware. No, Windows 10, I don't want to use OneDrive, stop asking.

February 2, 2018 | 12:24 AM - Posted by DK76 (not verified)

Then uninstall it...

February 2, 2018 | 01:22 AM - Posted by pacmanfan

"Then uninstall it..."

...along with Candy Crush Soda Saga, Microsoft Solitaire Collection, Bubble Witch Saga 3, March of Empires, Minecraft, OneNote, Spotify, Twitter, Sports, Money, Money, News, Get Office, Weather, 3D Builder, Skype, Sway, Autodesk Scratchpad, and Paid Wi-Fi and Cellular.

February 2, 2018 | 09:02 AM - Posted by AMDDUUUDE (not verified)

Totally agree with you, I hate all the "crapware" Windows 10 ship with at the start Menu. And also hate how your actual installed apps are over taken by crapware and adds of other apps from their app store.

February 2, 2018 | 10:50 AM - Posted by StayAwayFromNumber10AndItsTheZombieMastersOfRedmond (not verified)

let's protest AMD's not supporting windows 8.1 for drivers on newer GPU SKUs and CPUs, hell support on windows 7 also. But windows 8.1 is 5 years from EOL and AMD should be supporting an any OS versions that are not EOL.

Windows 8.1 with some third party shell/windowing software can be made to look and behave more like 7, and 8.1 also does not have all the forcing of bloatware and such compared to windows 10. So even with windows 8.1 the optional updates can be held off or never installed, and even security updates can be put off for as long as the hardware's owner decides if a security patch is borking some OS/Software feature that the user needs to work.

Get ready to learn how to lock windows 7 down safely inside a Linux Kernel based VM hosted OS instance and work safely on windows 7, 8.1 after 2020 or 2023! That's one option what with AMD making 8 core CPUs mainstream and 16 cores for HEDT market affordable.

Wendell at LevelOneTechs does a lot of Linux VM related stuff with windows hosted on a Linux Kernel based VM sorts of things. IOMMU sorts of passthrough to GPUs from the guest OS via the VM passthrough sorts of testing etc.

Lock that window 7(The New XP) up under a Linux Kernel based hypervisor and run with it past 2020(7's EOL) or 2023(8.1's EOL).

February 2, 2018 | 11:55 AM - Posted by razor512

Make sure as much of the microsoft store is disabled as possible in order to prevent updates from reinstalling crapware.

February 1, 2018 | 11:03 PM - Posted by hood6558 (not verified)

Sounds like a war that can never end, but it's a good start...

February 2, 2018 | 04:22 AM - Posted by JohnGR

Good move from Microsoft.

February 2, 2018 | 09:01 AM - Posted by AMDDUUUDE (not verified)

For the first time in my Life I can say ""GOOD, GREAT WORK, MICROSOFT!!""

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