How exactly do we type these new Ryzen Pro parts? R7P, Ryzen 7P, R7 Pro?

Subject: General Tech | June 29, 2017 - 12:43 PM |
Tagged: amd, ryzen pro, EPYC

Official news about Ryzen Pro has finally arrived and The Tech Report was right on top of it.  This is the first we have seen of the "3" parts, a Ryzen 3 Pro 1300 and Ryzen 3 Pro 1200, their four non-SMT cores clocked at a decent 3.5/3.7GHz and 3.1/3.4GHz respectively.  That makes the Ryzen 3 Pro 1300 essentially the same chip as the Ryzen 5 Pro 1500 but with half the total cache and without multi-threading, theoretically reducing the price.  Five of the six new parts have a TDP of 65W with only the top tier Ryzen 7 Pro 1700X hitting 95W, with its 8 cores, 16 threads operating at 3.5/3.7GHz.

The speeds and core counts are not the most important features of these chips however, it is the features they share with AMD's soon to arrive EPYC chips.  AMD Secure Processor features, TPM 2.0 and DASH which offers features similar to Intel's vPro architecture.  This one area in which AMD offers a broader choice of products than Intel whose Core i3 parts do not support enterprise features; at least not yet.  Click the link above to check out more.

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"AMD's Ryzen Pro platform blends business-class security and management features with the performance of the Zen architecture. We take an early look at how AMD plans to grapple with Intel in the battle for the standard corporate desktop."

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June 29, 2017 | 03:33 PM - Posted by Clmentoz (not verified)

AnandTech's write-up on Ryzen Pro goes into greater detail. And it appears that AMD is Enabling more of the Zeppelin die's features that are enabled for its EPYC line of SKUs. So this new "Ryzen Pro" branding comes with more of the Zeppelin die's server/business features enabled. And all of AMD's SKUs like Ryzen, Ryzen Pro, ThreadRipper, and EPYC are all based on the same Modular Zeppelin die with more features enabled as needed for business use. So features similar to Intel's VPro with even some features that only EPYC's Zeppelin dies have enabled, and EPYC/Zeppelin has some features that even Intel can not currently match.

I guess AMD will be offering OEMs some form of low cost graphics/GPU OEM only discrete Polaris/Vega(?) SKU to allow for these Ryzen Pro CPU only SKUs to offer minimal video abilities on business grade PCs. AMD's consumer(Zen/Vega APUs, 3Q/4Q 2017) and Business(Zen/Vega, APUs 2018) are not here yet.

The Ryzen Pro Branding is for Business desktop PCs that are managed by an IT department. So all those remote management features are Offered for Ryzen Pro, features that consumer Ryzen does not necessarily need. And the Warranty period for Ryzen Pro is 3 years, along with AMD's promise that these Ryzen Pro SKUs will be produced for 24 months so businesses can target specific PC hardware for longer term support and Know that AMD will have sufficient supplies of CPU parts for that long term support that businesses like before making large PC purchases.

The Anandtech article goes in greater detail about those new encryption and VM instance encryption features that Ryzen Pro will have, maybe not the full EPYC level of features but enough for enterprise/Business desktop usage. Hopefully there will be some nice Business laptop offerings using Ryzen Pro branded mobile and desktop APU’s in 2018.

June 29, 2017 | 04:01 PM - Posted by pdjblum

thanks man for the excellent simple explanation of what the pro line

June 29, 2017 | 06:51 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

Ryan's full review will as well; once he is done playing with the Vega.

June 29, 2017 | 08:55 PM - Posted by Anonymouse (not verified)

It's not a "1/4 Epyc", it's a 'Ryzen +'.

It's a "Business Notebook/Laptop/Desktop CPU". A bit better than Ryzen, more secure but slower than Threadripper, and not a 'Desktop Version' of Epyc.

Without listing every difference: Faster Clock than Epyc, fewer PCIe Lanes, lower TDP and Memory Capacity, no or slow Fabric, etc.

More specifically, with regards to 'Server Grade Encryption':

Secure Boot (Secure Root of Trust): Yes

Secure Run (Secure: Memory Encryption, Encrypted Virtualization, Move): No

IF it had SME and SEV then I'd consider it, since it doesn't I'm waiting for anything to discourage me from Epyc (like 'drop-in' 7nm isn't in it's upgrade path).

June 30, 2017 | 05:05 PM - Posted by Clmentoz (not verified)

It's the very same Zeppelin die that is used across all of AMD's Ryzen/Ryzen Pro/Threadripper/Naples SKUs! The very same feature complete die with some more featres enabled in Ryzen Pro over Ryzen. So that Zeppelin die is the same with some features disabled for Ryzen and less features disabled for Ryzen Pro. Ryzen is a brand name not the code name for AMD's dual CCX Unit modular die(that is called internally Zeppelin) that AMD created to conserve its limited engineering resources.

Zen is the name of the CPU core's micro-arch and Ryzen(Consumer Branding), ThreadRipper(Consumer branding), Ryzen Pro(Business PC Branding), Epyc(Server/Workstation/HPC Branding) all make use of that Zeppelin modular die(with differing feature sets enabled). AMD's getting better than 80% Die/Wafer yields on using that modular Zeppelin die and that Zeppelin die's scabilibity and feature customiziation is what is used to create all the current desktop to server Zen Micro-Arch based products.

AMD's APUs are going to be different and not make use of the Zeppelin die( 2 Core complexes design). So when the Zen/Vega APUs are ready for market they will be of a different base design with added Vega Graphics.

I'll bet that some of the Zen/Zeppelin die features(enabled for Ryzen Pro, over those in Ryzen) where just enabeling settings in the UEFI/BIOS and/or enabled via microcode settings. Zeppelin is feature complete and modular so AMD can create SKUs of differing core counts and feature sets, very smart design on AMD's part, and economics forced AMD to design that way owing to AMD's limited budget.

July 1, 2017 | 01:00 AM - Posted by Exascale

AMD says right there that it does support memory encryption...

June 30, 2017 | 04:56 AM - Posted by Mobile_Dom

I'm partial to typing it as R753N Pro.

It's absolutely terrible, but I like it

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