HP Split Imminent, and 30,000+ Employees Will Be Let Go

Subject: General Tech | September 19, 2015 - 03:10 PM |
Tagged: layoffs, hp inc, hp, hewlett-packard enterprise

As we reported a while ago, Hewlett-Packard is planning to split into two. The move will separate the consumer products into “HP Inc” and enterprise products into “Hewlett-Packard Enterprise”. This makes sense, because enterprise clients know the full name, but many consumers probably do not. At the time, it was expected to result in 5000 jobs lost, resulting in 55,000 since the upper management focused on cutting expenses. Now, about a year later, and right before the split happens, we find out that 5000 is now well over 30,000, bringing the 55,000 figure to between 85,000 and 95,000.

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These are fairly severe cuts, but it depends on how you look at it. A typical corporate restructure is around 10% of employees as a rule of thumb. If you count the slow, rolling job cuts as a single restructure, then the Hewlett-Packard Company has cut about 25% - 30% of their workforce, albeit offset by some hiring and rehiring that naturally won't be reported on as much as cuts.

If you look at this deal as a single restructure however, then it is between 10-15%, which is somewhat normal. Personally, I would say that this is the slightly more honest way of reporting on the issue. These cuts are on the severe side, but I don't think it spells trouble for the companies (although it is terrible for the employees).

Source: Ars Technica

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September 19, 2015 | 06:27 PM - Posted by Edmond (not verified)

shouldnt have kept peddling 1366x768 TN shit laptops

September 19, 2015 | 09:55 PM - Posted by Tyler (not verified)

My predecessor bought almost nothing but hp pavilions in the 2011-2013. The ones that get hot enough for chips to become desoldered. 7 of 12 have failed in this way. The remaining 5 have been given laptop coolers designed for gaming notebooks. and I have a pile of toasted/melted HP laptops at home from friends and family.

September 19, 2015 | 10:28 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

30,000 people hollllllyyyyysh*t (UT voice)

September 20, 2015 | 11:49 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Looking for an HP Probook to replace my current Probook, I want a Carrizo based Probook with a Carrizo FX8800P, running/able to run the APU part at 35 Watts! The 15-35 watt Carrizo part if placed in a regular NON ultrabook form factor laptop with a 35 watt cooling solution runs about 30% faster than the same part configured to run at 15 Watts in an ultrabook form factor laptop with a less robust ultrabook cooling solution. I'll gladly pay extra for a 35 watt Carrizo based probook, and I'm also looking for a discrete AMD GPU option so I can use dual Carizzo/AMD discrete/integrated mobile GPUs for Blender 3D rendering/Cycles rendering.

I mostly want that AMD GCN graphics in the Carrizo, and The AMD discrete mobile GCN GPU for Blender rendering workloads on the ACE units, so the Carrizo integrated GPU runs better at 35 watts, and with an AMD discrete mobile laptop GCN GPU the device should be good for gaming also. Probooks make pretty good laptops for their business options, Windows 7 Pro options, and SUSE Linux options, and other options, But HP is now only using the 15 watt Carrizo parts, or putting the Carizzo FX8800p 15-35 watt part in an ultrabook form factor laptop and restricting the FX8800p to only running at 15 watts with no cooling solution that will ever be able to run the part at 35 watts!

I hope that HP realizes that there are a lot of people online at various blog/websites asking for laptops the can run the Carrizo FX8800p at its maximum of 35 watts, and also want a laptop with a discrete AMD mobile laptop GPU to pair with the Carrizo FX8800P's internal/integrated graphics. People are still wanting Windows 7 pro, or Linux options, like the Probooks have always offered as options.

HP is making the same mistake, as well as AMD, in thinking that some home or business users want only ultrabook types of systems, AMD and HP/other OEMs needs to return to producing the old laptop as a desktop replacement type of systems with the more robust cooling solutions for the power users. So far, I think there is a Lenovo with a Carrizo FX8800p(35 watts?), but windows 10 is a deal killer, so hopefully Lenovo will offer windows 7, or Linux, and an AMD discrete mobile option.

AMD is out of its mind in creating a line of Carrizo based business APUs that are so weak, and not offering more FX8800p SKUs and getting OEMs to offer laptops with the FX8800p able to be run at 35 watts. All the benchmarks when promoting the Carrizo from AMD where done on the FX8800p at 35 watts, but where is The FX8800p able to run at 35 watts unrestrained in a laptop for people to buy!

I like the HP probook brand, mostly for the windows 7 pro, and Linux options, But HP is hell bent on not offering the FX8800p for power users in a probook option for people that need the FX8800p at 35 watts for the extra 30% performance and those ACE units are great for ray tracing/rendering workloads, and are still affordable compared to the expensive and out of my price range Pro graphics card based systems. This is why the PC/laptop market is in such slump, all that ultrabook gimping of laptop performance needs to stop!

Keep it up with the ultrabook/thin and light infatuation HP/other OEMs and continue to watch your sales plummet downwards!

September 21, 2015 | 08:07 AM - Posted by Edmond (not verified)

An fx8800p inside a 120hz 17.3" 1080p flicker free IPS display
with 8gigs of ram
and 256gig SSD
and nothing else - no bloat hardware that just upps the price

= would be absolute perfection and maximum eye comfort

September 21, 2015 | 10:47 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

As long as the FX8800p can run at that 35 Watt metric and not be thermally throttled under a poor cooling solution. And if the user wants longer battery life, then build the laptop with the software/firmware to allow the user to set the APU to 15 Watts, and not deny the user the ability to run the APU at its full 35 watts. At 35 Watts the Carrizo FX8800p has 30% better performance than at 15 Watts, throw in a discrete AMD GCN GPU and things get even better. Those AMD GCN ACE units will even be good for GPGPU, and even the latest Vulkan/DX12 APIs are able to use GPGPU on the ACE units to enhance gaming.

September 21, 2015 | 09:28 PM - Posted by dan878766 (not verified)

"If you count the slow, rolling job cuts as a single restructure, then the Hewlett-Packard Company has cut about 25% - 30% of their workforce, albeit offset by some hiring and rehiring that naturally won't be reported on as much as cuts."

Hp acquired EDS in 2008 and 139,000 employees which doubled the company size. No doubt a large portion of the jobs would be eliminated over the years as the combined companies had a lot of overlap.

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