Rumor: AMD Gonzalo APU for Next-Gen Game Consoles Leaks

Subject: General Tech | January 21, 2019 - 02:28 PM |
Tagged: Playstation, Navi 10 Lite, navi, leak, Gonzalo, APU, amd, PS5, rumor, xbox, Zen 2, Zen+

What's in a name? Depending on how much you read into it, quite a bit, depending on what you infer from product code 2G16002CE8JA2_32/10/10_13E9. There are some very interesting rumours floating around the net today which suggest AMD might have another big win on their hands.  They provided much of the hardware for the release of the two major consoles way back in 2013 and there have been recent statements they will be inside the next generation of XBox.  Now that NVIDIA is working on supporting Active Sync that benefit is a little less clear in the long term but at least for now they are a little late to the game.

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Image credit: Twitter user @TUM_APISAK

The image, from from a source that has a rather impressive track record, demonstrates the decoding process - and pay close attention to the letter "G", the second character in the string, which presumably indicates that this intended for a game console. The source also suggests that this new chip will be a Zen 2 and Navi based APU called Gonzolo, with eight cores clocking between 1GHz to 3.2GHz with 4MB of L2 cache and 16 MB of L3 cache.  There is less information on the "Navi 10 Lite" GPU, apart from a belief that it's core will be running at a frequency of at least 1GHz.

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Image via Twitter user @KOMACHI_ENSAKA

This is great news for AMD, who have been enjoying the royalties from the sales of consoles and could use the fresh injection of cash as gamers upgrade once the consoles launch.

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January 21, 2019 | 03:51 PM - Posted by Anonymous324324324 (not verified)

Was this ever a question? AMD will probably have consoles for the next few generations. Intel has awful GPUs, Nvidia has no x86 license, and ARM is just awful in general.

January 21, 2019 | 07:22 PM - Posted by collie

Well, while you are almost probably right, they have plenty of options other than a x86x64 APU, there could be intel or even amd cpu with nvidia graphics cores, there could be many light weight arm cores, lets face it the current Gen Jaguar cores arent very powerful at all, Plus nvidia has done some very impressive things with tegra, perhaps they have something big in the works, and there's always just designing the infrastructure/architecture of the system to be 90% gpu dependent and basically make it a 2080ti with an operating system. Plus there's still Power9, even tho that is the least likely scenario. Annnnnd, Intel has been paying a ton of money into its GPU department, it's unlikely but they may have something ready to surprise us.

But yea, I still agree it's almost certain to be an Ryzen/Radeon APU. We shall see

January 21, 2019 | 08:12 PM - Posted by Sebastian Peak

I think it was a foregone conclusion AMD would once again win the console space; the news here is core count, clocks, and of course GPU and CPU architecture. I really don't think it's a lock that a product this far into development will have the very latest architecture, but I would love to be wrong (and I probably am).

January 21, 2019 | 09:17 PM - Posted by MaybeBeMoreExactWithTheNewIPsImplications (not verified)

If it's AMD's Zen Micro-Arch then that supports SMT so it's not just cores it's cores/threads also in addition to maybe Navi Graphics.

There is also the Question of any Graphics after Vega and support for the HBCC/HBC IP that was introduced with the Vega GPU micro-arch. Then there is the console makers probably wanting more AI related ISA improvments like appear in Vega 20's/Vega-2's new AI related ISA extentions. So will Navi have more AI related ISA extentions/improvments also or even some Tensor Core related IP for AI/"DLSS" like upscaling. And consoles are maybe using Upscaling than PC's currently and consoles have been making use if Upscaling since forever!

Microsoft and Sony are sure to want Hardware based Tensor Core IP before any Hardware based Ray Tracing IP! "DLSS" like is what the console makers really are interested in to appeal to 4k gaming! And even if it's not realy native 4k, If some AI based "DLSS" like upscaling can get close to native 4K in appearence then the console makers will want that ASAP.

January 21, 2019 | 06:39 PM - Posted by Annonymous (not verified)

I doubt that Nvidia would be in the next gen consoles, since G-Sync only supports DisplayPort as they've stated before. I doubt that TV manufacturers will go out of their way to pay a licensing fee to Nvidia just to so that Nvidia will may be certify their TVs as compatible on top of a possible royalty fee to DisplayPort.

January 22, 2019 | 03:52 PM - Posted by Subsailor

Agree. Good thinking there.

January 22, 2019 | 10:24 AM - Posted by chipman (not verified)

I'm still wondering if next gen game console will have builtin DisplayPort with overpriced cable... without fee! L O L

January 22, 2019 | 01:37 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

Most of the rumours are about HDMI 2.x and it being compatible with AS, so hopefully not!

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