Actually, Microsoft Wants LESS of Your Data?

Subject: General Tech | November 3, 2015 - 07:30 AM |
Tagged: onedrive, microsoft, cloud storage

They apparently want, at most, 1TB of it.

Last year, almost to the day, I wrote about Microsoft upgrading their 1TB OneDrive offer to unlimited. Granted, I was about a week late in my reporting of their announcement, but the November 2nd publish date is still amusing none-the-less. Regardless, they have reverted this decision. Unlimited plans will be reduced to 1TB, and free plans will be reduced from 15GB to 5GB. The 15GB “camera roll” bonus will also be removed. These changes will take effect in “early 2016”.

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Officially, the change was prompted by users who stored whole movie collections and DVR recordings to the cloud, using up over 75TB of storage. Interestingly, they say that this is “14,000 times the average”. This means that “the average” user stores about 5.4GB of data on OneDrive. Granted, mean values are somewhat skewed by outliers, as the 75TB example suggests. If 14,000 users were on the service, of which only one person used it at all, but that one person put 75TB on it, then the average would be the same. It's a data point nonetheless, though.

After these changes occur, you will have about 12 months before Microsoft will force you to cull the storage that you are using. You just will not be able to add to it until then. Afterwards? Well, I'm not sure how Microsoft will know what is most important to delete. Probably best to do it yourself.

Source: Microsoft

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November 3, 2015 | 07:59 AM - Posted by moveoverjimmyfallon (not verified)

ba dum tshh XD!!

November 3, 2015 | 08:25 AM - Posted by SubTract

It's pretty shitty of them to move the free version down to 5GB when the average is 5.4GB

Also, What happens if people have used up more than 5GB of camera roll. Does that data get deleted?

I also think that companies using the term "Unlimited" with Ts&Cs that include "within reason" Then making up some number that they think is within reason and using that as a cap rather than simply stating what the cap is should be fined for false advertising. They are Actually purposely miss leading the consumer.

Quite frankly if they say something is unlimited, they should not be surprised if someone stores 75TB. They are paying for something that is advertised as "Unlimited" As far as I'm concerned this is well within their rights.

November 3, 2015 | 04:07 PM - Posted by Scott Michaud

If they use more than 5GB of Camera Roll, then they cannot add any more until they get below 5GB. They have 12 months to get their usage below 5GB. They don't say what will happen after that.

November 3, 2015 | 08:52 AM - Posted by James (not verified)

It is kinda BS to punish all users for the abuse by the few. They can cut unlimited and solve thay same problem. The excessive use is nothing more than a thin excuse to reshuffle pricing because they must not be making enough. Im a free 15+15GB user who uses about 12 right now. Dropping to 5 is not a option. I noticed that while they are phasing out 100 and 200 for NEW users, the changes dont affect existing users. So if you buy the 100GB tier now you get double the storage for the same price the 50GB will be.

November 3, 2015 | 09:24 AM - Posted by BBMan (not verified)

Maybe it was all porn?

How do I say this? HDs are cheap. 5GB?

Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud. Do not use the Cloud.

November 3, 2015 | 09:54 AM - Posted by Goofus Maximus (not verified)

Are you saying we should use the cloud? ;)

My thought is "use the cloud and local" so that you can be covered against any one method going bad.

That said, I don't even use onedrive all that much, except as a method of transferring files to another location. I use Flickr for my photos, since it offers better sharing options than onedrive, and the mismatched behavior from when I put a photo on onedrive with file explorer, compared to when I upload via the web browser, drives me batty.

November 3, 2015 | 09:55 AM - Posted by donut (not verified)

Did you say "Do not use the Cloud"?

November 3, 2015 | 11:35 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I've been thinking about using the Cloud. What do you think?

November 3, 2015 | 09:59 AM - Posted by Jim Cherry (not verified)

This puts them on par with drop box and apple icloud and puts them behind google drive. They were already having trouble getting users of those other services. This pretty much is them admitting defeat and scaling back.

November 3, 2015 | 10:03 AM - Posted by phillychuck

Where are all the anti-trust people that screamed when Microsoft integrated IE into Windows? I wonder how many cloud storage sales are lost due to integrated OneDrive or whatever they are calling it this week.

Where were the antivirus companies when they integrated a functional one (Microsoft Security Essentials->Windows Defender in Windows 8+).

Heck, why isn't Google trying to sue since Windows 10 integrates Bing (god help us), into the Search bar on the desktop, as far as I can tell you can't change that one to Google or anything else, just turn it off.

I want lawsuits!!!

November 3, 2015 | 10:59 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Since when does a product need to be democratic?

November 3, 2015 | 04:02 PM - Posted by phillychuck

Since competition and anti-trust laws?

November 3, 2015 | 08:50 PM - Posted by remc86007

I don't think you have a very complete understanding of US anti-trust law it its current form. Those nit picking arguments about software integrated within software (so long as they don't actively block competitors) don't fly in US courts.

November 5, 2015 | 08:14 AM - Posted by phillychuck

I'm sure it has been stripped since the Windows 95 (?) IE thing, but they've made it very difficult to remove some of these Microsoft features.

November 4, 2015 | 04:46 AM - Posted by Cataclysm_ZA

IIRC, if you change the default search engine in Edge, that will change the engine that Cortana uses.

November 5, 2015 | 08:15 AM - Posted by phillychuck

I just tested this, searching from the Cortana desktop field still opens Bing search, but searching from the Edge bar does open Google.

November 3, 2015 | 11:13 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Ahaha. Microsoft thought "hey lets give them unlimited storage, we will get more data" then "wtf, we can't make money off of cat pictures and porn?" followed by "HDD servers are how much?"

Smooth move.

November 3, 2015 | 11:22 AM - Posted by DaveSimonH

Just read the OneDrive blog post 10 mins ago from a link from reddit post, signed up for Google Drive (15GB) 5 mins ago.

Looking forward to watching their latest PR debacle unfold once the changes happen in "early 2016".

November 3, 2015 | 11:37 AM - Posted by Gunbuster

I wonder how much of the "movie collections" they were able to dedup?

November 3, 2015 | 12:53 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

They don't want videos, or songs, they just want all your juicy personal metrics! I say everybody should only upload copies of Pink Flamingos the movie and no personal info at all, let M$ go to the movies!

November 3, 2015 | 01:26 PM - Posted by Tim Verry

Wow, moving to 1TB hard cap is their decision but the really crappy thing is taking away the camera roll bonus and knocking free users down to 5GBs? Hopefully they don't mess with my 25GB grandfathered free plan but, oh well, this is just one more reason not to use them for anything important or pay them for more storage heh.

With the Windows 10 integration, you would think they would be trying to encourage people to use it, not drive people away from it.

November 3, 2015 | 03:51 PM - Posted by aselwyn1

moving to 1tb is completely fair but murdering the free accounts to 5gb is just so stupid especially with microsoft pushing us to use onedrive in windows so much now

November 3, 2015 | 08:54 PM - Posted by remc86007

I think this is a good example of a good business decision that should have been handled by PR people. I don't blame them for wanting to hold less of people's crap for free. I'm sure they think that they have a solid enough market position and integration with Windows and Office that they can let other companies host people's data for free. That being said, the way this was announced and applying it to current users has to be one of the worst PR decisions Microsoft has made in years.

November 4, 2015 | 11:54 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

M$ only wants your personal information that they can sale to any and all that will pay for your personal metrics. This is just another bait and switch from the clown princes of cloud from Redmond! They are using “Unlimited” in the same manner that they are using “Free” with their nebulous cloud terms and conditions that allow M$ to do any and all manner of things that M$ so wishes after the fools rush in and take the bait(HOOK, LINE, and SINKER). It's all in the fine print of the phone book size EULA! Chuck Browns! Landing on your backs after Lucy offers for the billionth time to hold that football! How is that working out for you Chucks! Ahhhhhhhhh-gaaaaaah, splat...!

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