About time Intel thought of ME!

Subject: General Tech | July 19, 2018 - 02:53 PM |
Tagged: security, patch, intel management engine, Intel, IME

A bit before Christmas last year, Intel provided sysadmins with a lovely present, vulnerabilities in the on chip Intel Management Engine which you could not even tell if they had been used to breach your systems.  Intel have now publicly released four advisories pertaining to the IME, so that interested parties can investigate for themselves.  These were already released to system builders and patches released, after a quite a long delay.  This is better late than never ... assuming you are not running anything older than a fourth generation Core processor. 

The Register has links to the advisories if you are interested in a little light reading.

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"Now that Intel's advisory is public, it's clear that Chipzilla has known the particulars for some time, and has been privately working with computer manufacturers to push fixes ahead of disclosure. For example, Lenovo emitted firmware fixes in April, and Dell no later than June."

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July 19, 2018 | 06:50 PM - Posted by Rocky123 (not verified)

So basically first second and third gen Core series CPU users get shafted again because of Intrial's huge fumbles in security nice.

I know it is not so but a small voice inside of me is saying dude this is all planned a long time ago to get those that hang onto their tech to long and scare them into giving it up because your computer could get humped out of working. Like I said this is or at least should not be the case but hey whatever right.

Intel you are making it hard for me to want to buy any more of your stuff.

July 19, 2018 | 08:15 PM - Posted by ServerMarketCloutMakesConsumeMarketsMinorAnnoyances (not verified)

Intel has never much cared for the consumer it's just that Intel was able to incentivise the OEMs to use Intel's brand of x86. I think that a lot of that IPC advantage that Intel has had came at the cost of side channel vulnerabilities but that's just not been to much of an issue for Intel over the years that they have dominated the x86 market.

Intel surely never cared about Graphics until it was faced with AMD's APUs and Intel's shoddy graphics have dominated the market not on any Price/Perfomance fair market play, Intel pretty much owned the laptop OEMs via incentives even if AMD's product had better graphics performance.

Intel Hooked and Crooked hard over the decades to get the best friends that money could buy and Intel is most definitely about the money more than any technological advancments for consumers. AMD's renewed competition is forcing Intel to invest in improvments more than Intel cares to admit, but AMD is still behind in the wads of cash to incentivise more laptop design wins of the higher end variety. Intel approaches Laptop OEMs like Nvidia approaches GPP. So unless things change AMD's better graphics and even Zen+/Zen2 has an up hill battle of the brown envelope kind in the OEM laptop market more than the PC market.

Most folks have plenty of older Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge laptops that comprise the more powerful Core i serise SKUs that where made before Intel went all Ultrabook dual core on laptops with those sub 20 Watt SKUs that where priced on a per core basis much more than the per core cost on any Sand Bridge/Ivy Bridge SKU. Intel could squeeze pleny more dual core, core i7 U series SKUs on a wafer at whatever the current process node was at the time than any quad core i7 SKU. Intel will not be fixing any of those 3rd generation core or later SKUs unless there are lawsuits incoming.

AMD's Zen has forced Intel to once again begin making laptop quad cores, and even 6 cores, SKUs for laptops. The big downside to Intel's i9 on Apple's latest Macbook is that there is insufficient cooling on those God Awful Apple Thin and Light Laptop form factors so the 6 core i9 can not outperform a quad core i7 of the previous generation because the i9 is being thermally throttled!

AMD is the logical alternative for the home system builder but the OEM PC/Laptop market still to this day is dependent on Intel's incentives that fly in the face of the free market. You can not stop those backroom dealings if you are in the market for a laptop, but you can very effectively put Intel on the outside of your next homebuilt PC, as many are doing now that Zen is around, and with Vega Graphics on some Desktop APU SKUs.

AMD could probably do a better job with Zen 2 and some 6 core laptop competition but the Laptop OEMs will expect incentives even if Zen2/Vega or Zen2/Navi totally outperforms Intel, such is the amount of cash Intel has available for incentives. AMD really needs to get enough server market share and revenues/profits from that high margin market in order to show the Laptop OEMs that AMD is willing to go it alone and Build with some chosen Laptop OEM partner/s and that's what AMD should do if AMD still lacks the funds to incentivise the entire OEM laptop market.

The big Laptop OEMs like HP/Dell are not going to have to worry as they will not be subjected to any pressures but that's because they have that Server/Pro GPU market clout to flash back in any CPU/GPU makers face but some of the smaller consumer only brands will take notice if AMD looks at them once AMD's server/pro market sales dwarfs any of its consumer market revenue streams.

Intel is still years off from competing on the graphics front with Nvidia and AMD and AMD really needs to take that server/professional GPU market share so it's not totally dependent on the consumer and gaming console market. Once the Consumer market becomes relatively small campared to AMD's Server/Professional Compute/AI GPU market revenues then AMD can take risks and not worry about its consumer OEM Laptop Partners. AMD is in need of more dedicated professional CPU/Graphics Workstation SKU design wins that make use of single socket Epyc CPUs paired with AMD Professional GPUs as even now the Pro Graphics SKUs are still mostly Xeon based even when there are options for Radeon Pro WX GPUs.

I'm avoiding Intel, but Im also avoiding windows 10 so maybe AMD can get a single Linux OS laptop OEM partner once AMD's Professional Server CPU and Pro GPU/AI market revenues are so large that AMD could easily afford to piss some consumer OEMs off and not worry about the consequences. Intel makes those NUC SKUs and the OEMs do not complain because Intel's major revenues come from the professional markets.

July 19, 2018 | 08:19 PM - Posted by ServerMarketCloutMakesConsumeMarketsMinorAnnoyances (not verified)

Edit: those 3rd generation core or later
To: those 3rd generation core or eariler

July 20, 2018 | 09:47 AM - Posted by The Law2018 (not verified)

PCP are Intel shills. Never take their article serious. There is always money behind it.

July 20, 2018 | 03:34 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

July 21, 2018 | 08:21 AM - Posted by Othertomperson (not verified)

It’s funny how everyone’s obsession with spectre and meltdown, which is only a legitimate concern to cloud companies like amazon and not consumers, completely overshadowed this genuine and worrying vulnerability.

July 21, 2018 | 03:17 PM - Posted by Glegster (not verified)

I know take a celeron n3060 and patch it i bet nothing would run on it. It be kaput

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