The designers of Passmark benchmarking software have noticed a trend in the past year, a surge in the number of AMD processors being tested. The jump is quite impressive and even if it does not directly represent sales it certainly suggests that AMD's recent launch of Ryzen has been attracting enthusiasts. At the beginning of the year AMD accounted for just over 18% of the benchmarks being run but as of now over a quarter of all benchmarks are being run on AMD processors. With Threadripper on the horizon this number could grow, though perhaps not as dramatically as with the launch of the lower priced Ryzen family. Drop by The Inquirer for more.
"However, AMD's share has bounced back this year, rising from 18.1 per cent logged at the beginning of the first quarter to 26.2 per cent at the beginning of the third quarter. Intel's share has dipped to 73.8 per cent at the same time."
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I’m unfamiliar with
I’m unfamiliar with Passmark’s usage outside of enthusiast testing: what kind of userbase do they have? I can’t recall ever using their software myself, but presumably it would be skewed towards testing of self-built machines at the expense of enterprise deployments of OEM purchases for integration? Or do Passmark offer separate non-public services to these markets that would allow them a more representative sample?
they cite 800k benchmark
they cite 800k benchmark runs, that’s pathetic to write a report on
utter and completely
utter and completely bullcrap!
PassMark report is based on less than a million benchmark submissions while STEAM HW survey is based on a shit-ton higher user base, and STEAM HW survey sais a different thing: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/processormfg/
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quite frankly, it’s sad to see PCPer not checking before posting
And assuming that everyone
And assuming that everyone with a computer uses Steam is somehow better?
yes it’s better because STEAM
yes it’s better because STEAM user base is about 14 million peak users a day
while PassMark based their report on a total of 800000 user submitted bench runs – even if only 1/2 of the STEAM user base submitted the HW survey, is still far bigger data pool than PassMark’s
Steam being mostly laptops,
Steam being mostly laptops, so meh 😐
Each and every comment you
Each and every comment you post is pro-Intel. Look, it is evident that AMD’s marketshare is on the up and up. They’re chewing through Intel’s marketshare thanks to Ryzen.
Maybe sit back, smoke a joint and take a chill pill. The world is not ending.
yeah sure
AMD’s CPU market
yeah sure
AMD’s CPU market share is up based on? I provide data and not fiction
AMD’s market share is up
AMD’s market share is up based on the current AMD share prices which have been on a steady upward movement for over a year. Ryzen is crushing Intel at the moment because of their price to performance ratio is at a very attractive spot for the consumer and pro markets. Intel either needs to meet or exceed that to possibly do anythibg about the market share it is rapidly losing at the moment. AMD has so much new CPU coverage, intel is scrambling to do something about it and are tripping over their own feet. This is how competitive industry works. One company gets close to bankruptcy and under that pressure it performs by introducing something stellar to the consumers. The other company, with its previiys lack of competition stalls by not producing the same level of product the last couple of generations it has put out. In other words, AMD has lit a fire under Intel’s ass and soon may just mop the floor with it!
Each and every comment you
Each and every comment you post is pro-Intel. Look, it is evident that AMD’s marketshare is on the up and up. They’re chewing through Intel’s marketshare thanks to Ryzen.
Maybe sit back, smoke a joint and take a chill pill. The world is not ending.
So state please in summary
So state please in summary what, u think the steam numbers represent re recent market share?
I guess you havent been
I guess you havent been around when all the site where using passmark to show AMD market share decline.
Why was it valid then, and not now.
Also its just a relative measurement. It measure a sentiment.
And steam ? large chunk is laptops. AMD has yet to release its new laptop processor line.
Steam hardware survey is also
Steam hardware survey is also 90% laptops, so there’s that.
Disappointed in PCPer. This
Disappointed in PCPer. This Passmark “market share” is a pile of nonsense. Jesus christ what a meaningful sample size and heavily biased toward a certain segment. I expected better than describing it as marketshare.
The value is not in absolute
The value is not in absolute number. but a TREND.
The only question is who participate .
But this seem even less reflective of AMD share gain in the DIY market. I think German retailers gave number and Ryzen is doing Amazingly well, shockingly well actually.
lol can’t even post as the
lol can’t even post as the same person?
AMD’s market share is
AMD’s market share is increasing but the exact figures are in debate. Looking at these passmark benchmarking figures can give some idea, not an exact idea, but some idea of AMD’s gains for Ryzen/Desktop x86 based SKUs. The market that is most important for AMD is the Server/Workstation and HPC market where AMD currently has a very small share where AMD can With EPYC(New server/workstation and HPC brand) get back at least the same market that AMD had at the height of AMD’s Opteron market share numbers in the past. The professional market has changed for Servers/Workstations as well as HPC with much more usage of GPU’s for FP acceleration workloads as well as the new GPU AI/inferencing workloads.
The sales figures from some of the retail channels are also a good indicator of AMD’s consumer CPU market numbers. AMD server market share is so small currently that EPYC is most definitely going to be making those numbers increase. As for AMD Seattle(built using Reference Arm Holdings A57 cores) has a client base that AMD is contractually committed to supporting for at least 5-10 years so AMD’s fully custom ARMV8A ISA running K12 is of interest to those customers. AMD has put K12 on the back burner until 2018 while it focuses on its EPYC x86 based servers but AMD will have to keep its SEC 10k filings up to date regarding K12’s ultimate status so I’d expect AMD will update its roadmap for K12 or announce its mothball status, I do not see AMD throwing away any of Keller’s/Team’s K12 work with the current news coming from the ARM server markets.
Of primary importance to AMD will be the revenue figures that can at least represent a full business quarter of Ryzen sales and the next few business quarters with AMD’s EPYC sales and that higher margin market’s contribution to AMD’s overall revenue growth. AMD needs to get its gross margins above 40% to begin showing a profit, but revenue growth is even more important as revenues are what pay the bills. Profits do not pay any bills as Profits are measured by what revenue funds remain after all the bills are paid, and AMD can afford for forgo profits if AMD is seen as reinvesting in new successful products that can get AMD enough excess revenues to be counted as profits. Shareholder value can be had by AMD increasing equity/share value even if AMD simply breaks even by reinvesting more rather than declaring any dividends as long as AMD’s revenues are kept on the increase through growing sales and growing market share.
Any new markets for AMD’s GPUs and semi-custom APUs are also of help including any ARM markets(Depending on the status of AMD’s K12 custom ARM project that was completed by Jim Keller/his team for K12 at the same time as Keller’s/Team’s Zen project.
I’m still looking for any non OEM Bristol Ridge APU SKUs for sale to the home system builder market because the Raven Ridge APUs are probably going to be very popular and hard to obtain. So if I could get a Bristol Ridge APU on a AM4 Mini-ITX [socketed] motherboard, I’d get that first and upgrade later. Hell the motherboard makers should offer some package deals with AM4 Mini-ITX[socketed] MBs with Bristol Ridge APUs for home system builders they could make more sales and users could update to Raven Ridge APUs later when they are available.
Now if the miners would get their fill of GPUs so prices would fall, those RX 470/570 and RX 480/580 prices are still way above MSRP.
Not sure about trends or
Not sure about trends or marketshare. Need new vm severs for private use and a new laptop.
Intel will never again receive a cent. AMD and ARM processors will most likely fit the bill going forward.
Now the question is, how many of you feel the same way?
Eh buy whatever fits your
Eh buy whatever fits your needs the best. I keep trying ARM Chromebooks and always end up replacing with Intel because of performance..
Go watch the video at Level
Go watch the video at Level One Techs about running a Linux OS/KVM and both Windows and Linux OSs at the same time under KVM. AMD has got most of the bugs worked out(AGESA 1.0.0.6 update) of PCIe passthrough under a Ryzen 7 CPU. Also AMD’s GPU have that support for GPU virtualization so one AMD GPU can be devided up into more than one logical GPU for secure GPU resource sharing.
More affirdable AMD 8 and 16 core Epyc systems will support even more feature sets all while providing those 128 PCIe lanes on both their 1P and 2P Epyc motherboard systems. IF you decide to go with EPYC paired with Vega then there is the possibilty of interfacing any Vega GPU with EPYC CPUs over the Infinity Fabric for a more NVlink style coherent interface EPYC CPU to Vega GPU.
Nvidia is stingy with allowing GPU virtualization on its consumer GPU SKUs in a similar manner that Intel is stingy with the PCIe lanes and RAID features(Raid Key Required for extra $$$), but AMD offers more feature value at a lower price on its Ryzen/ThreadRipper/Epyc platforms.
The Level One Techs reviewer also mentiones the 2 best motherboards in his opinion for Linux/KVM usage:
“Based on my experiences, I recommend the ASRock X370 Taichi or the Gigabyte Gaming 5” (1)
There is also a “duel boot” option as opposed to a “dual boot” option.
“It is even possible for one to setup a single installation of Windows can be booted both on bare metal hardware, and booted under virtualization, without too much headache. One would imagine it is more efficient and less wasteful to maintain a single installation of windows that can be used in use-case scenario.” (1)
(1)
“Ryzen GPU Passthrough Setup Guide: Fedora 26 + Windows Gaming on Linux”
https://level1techs.com/article/ryzen-gpu-passthrough-setup-guide-fedora-26-windows-gaming-linux