PCPer Mailbag #15 - 10/27/2017

Subject: Editorial | October 27, 2017 - 09:00 AM |
Tagged: video, Ryan Shrout, pcper mailbag, pcper

It's Friday, which means it's time for PC Perspective's weekly mailbag, our video show where Ryan and team answer your questions about the tech industry, the latest and greatest hardware, the process of running a tech review website, and more!

Here's what you'll find on today's show:

00:25 - C-State performance penalty?
03:32 - Shared GPU memory in laptops?
06:10 - The future of external GPUs?
08:57 - Why are new 6-core CPUs faster than old 8-core CPUs?
11:40 - Retail availability of AMD EPYC?
14:00 - Why does Windows Task Manager report different CPU speed?
15:27 - Gaming frame rate bottleneck?
17:31 - NVIDIA GPUs with FreeSync monitors?
18:49 - Next NVIDIA GPU release date?
20:50 - When will 4K 120Hz become mainstream?
22:39 - Wait to buy a new monitor?

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October 27, 2017 | 10:27 AM - Posted by Ronny AM (not verified)

I just watched this video from AdoredTV (Scottish is difficult for me as well, but please make an effort :) claiming customers were "conned" on the i5-8400 reviews, pointing to factors as very low base clock speed, only hi-end motherboards available and cherry-picked CPUs for reviewers - and since it's non-K you're stuck with what you get. I would love to hear Ryan's thoughts on this!


October 27, 2017 | 04:37 PM - Posted by EpycMBsArevAvailableForSale (not verified)

No you have not been looking as this Motherboard has been available for a few months and many links have been listed at PCPer by forum posters to thise Gigabyte SP3 SKU by forum posters in the past that would like this this Gigabyte(1) SP3/MB to be reviewed. It's been on sale several times at Newegg for $610-$629.

Stop trying to push Threadripper for workstation usage as we Know that AMD does not Like any Direct comparsions done between Threadripper and the Better value Epyc 1P Epyc single socket server SKUs. Phoronix already has been told to not compare the products by AMD but that should not stop reviewers from testing the Epyc/SP3 MBs with the Epyc 1P single socket 7401P(Rated the best value by Phoronix/others). So even though direct comparsions are not allowed the parts can still be reviewed by themselves and the readers can research and compare on their own.

Michael over at Phoronix stated in a reply to a forum Post that he was not allowed to directly compare Threadripper to any Epyc SKUs as the samples provided by AMD where for different markets. But that's not stoppinmg reviwes from being done on Epyc MB's if the benchmarks concern Workstation workloads like Blender 3d and such. AMD needs to be veray careful and not alienate its home server builder customers as they really want to see the single socket Epyc/SP3 single socket motherboards reviewed and there are no excuses as that Gigabyte SP3 motherboard has been for sale for a few months.

Folks looking for workstation CPU/MB SKUs are doing their homework and they just want to see some Epyc CPU/MB SKUs tested as the Epyc platfrom offers twice the memory channels and twice the PCIe lanes comperad to consumer Threadripper.

The Epyc parts can all be obtained and reviewed including that Gigabyte /EpycSP3 single socket MB!


MZ31-AR0 (rev. 1.0)"


And here is the Newegg link with the board currently listed for sale.


"GIGABYTE MZ31-AR0 Extended ATX Server Motherboard Socket SP3"


October 27, 2017 | 05:10 PM - Posted by Xukanik

2 Questions.

Question 1: Is the thumbnail Ryan's O Face?

Question 2: Do you think we'll ever get to a point where memory and storage combine? Like in the old Palm days. If so how long before that will be a possibility?

October 28, 2017 | 06:45 PM - Posted by Ipoopwhenifart (not verified)

No, it's Ryan realized that he sharted and not just started.

October 28, 2017 | 06:48 PM - Posted by Ipoopwhenifart (not verified)

it's Ryan realized that he sharted and not just farted

Stupid auto correct

October 27, 2017 | 08:01 PM - Posted by Jackson1467 (not verified)

Question: Some of the motherboard manufacturers tout their boards as having Intel Gigabit Ethernet. Some of the lower priced motherboards have Realtek Gigabit Ethernet. What are the advantages (if any) of having Intel Gigabit Ethernet on the motherboard.

October 28, 2017 | 10:50 PM - Posted by Ocelot (not verified)


I'm currently using 4670k for games, it's an old CPU and it's starting to show its age in some titles, like Watch_Dogs 2 and recently AC:Origins. But with current DDR4 RAM prices I don't like the idea of moving to a new platform. Is hunting down older i7 CPUs for people with old chipsets, like me, is a good strategy? Or should I just wait for Coffee Lake availability, maybe Zen+, and swallow down those RAM prices?

Separate question. What people on PCper expect from Zen+?

October 29, 2017 | 08:05 PM - Posted by mouf

Personally I would not worry about a platform upgrade until you have maxed out your video card.


October 30, 2017 | 01:10 PM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

Hardware Canucks recently did a video comparing an even older i7 -
the 2600k - to the 8700k and their results show that while there is a difference in gaming, it is not very big:


I'd say, that unless you really need one of the newer features that your cpu doesn't have, you'd be better off with continuing to run that 4670k.

The productivity side is where the older chips show their age when compared to the newere counterparts. But for gaming, still a really good chip. All I primarily use my pc for is gaming and I'm still rocknig a 2600k and it's been a great experience.

October 28, 2017 | 11:41 PM - Posted by Olympus Mars

I like the look of dimm slots on either side of the cpu, such as on a HEDT platform, however, I have no need for that kind of performance. Why don't motherboard manufacturers implement this design on consumer grade motherboards like Z370?

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