Subject: Displays | January 12, 2017 - 04:50 PM |
Tagged: oled

2017 is going to be, among other things, the year of the monitor.  We will start to see HDR products, with quantum dot, OLED and other display technology become far more common and hopefully more affordable.  This leaves many questions about the display technology that you should be shopping for; what advantages will an OLED panel give over a QD display and vice versa?  Ars Technica recently delved into details of OLED displays and how they differ from the LED panels and other display types such as plasma. 

If you are curious about how OLED overcomes blur issues or want to nit-pick about brightness levels and what exactly qualifies a display for a Ultra HD Premium certification sticker then click and read the full article here.

... and for those uncultured people who don't get the reference.

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"In many ways, the same can be said about the other major TV standard that we're seeing more lately: OLED, which stands for organic light emitting diode. It's being called the future of TV tech, promising deeper blacks, less motion blur, and sexier colors."

Here are some more Display articles from around the web:


Source: Ars Technica

January 12, 2017 | 04:56 PM - Posted by Sebastian Peak

Wait - what is this article about?

January 12, 2017 | 05:29 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Getting LG sponsorship.

January 12, 2017 | 06:20 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)


January 12, 2017 | 05:33 PM - Posted by Dark_wizzie

2017 the year of the OLED? I hope so, but I'm skeptical.

But heck, I can't even find a 144hz/1440p/Gsync/glossy monitor monitor today (or a matte one with decent QC) and we're already talking about HDR and 4k from Asus!

January 13, 2017 | 10:03 AM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

if you really want a 144hz/1440p/27" gsync display that has good QC, then take a look at the Dell s2716dg.

I got one almost a year ago, no issues with it at all. when the opportunity came up for me to get one, I dd a lot of reading up about monitors with those specs and then waited a couple of months until a good sale came along. At the time, the price for monitors with those specs, the low end was about $580 and up. I got mine for about $450 I believe, which left me with extra $ to get the 980ti instead of the 980.

It does have a TN panel, but when I compare it to my 4 year old asus 60hz monitor, there is noticeable difference in color reproduction. your mileage may vary.

sidenote, I know the timing of when I bought my stuff was close to the release of pascal, but in my situation, it was either buy it when I had the opportunity or the budget would get spent on something else.

January 12, 2017 | 05:38 PM - Posted by Jgr9 (not verified)

Musical tunes don't come across so well in text....

January 12, 2017 | 05:40 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

That's why I provided the link.  Anyone with good taste would immediately recognize it though.

January 13, 2017 | 10:41 AM - Posted by Shambles (not verified)

I did not get it and my caliculus gustatererius are working just fine thank you very much!

January 12, 2017 | 05:42 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Well no backlight(power saved, no bleed through), Self emissive so when off blacker blacks, color calibration(that needs some user work). That Burn-in/"image retention" note is interesting but I'll wait for more testing regarding that! Blur and the Art of OLED tweaking sounds intresting. MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) numbers for OLED will see maybe some longer research and technology tweaking before I would spend my money! There sure is a lot of nit picking on that brightness metric but without any backlight bleeding to worry about maybe some better dynamic range without any color washout. The costs will have to come down a lot for many to make the move from what they currently have.

Maybe PCPer could do one of those videos for a step by step color calibration on one of these OLED displays.

January 12, 2017 | 07:58 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

HDR monitors are one of the most interesting things this year. And I am happy to see PCPER noticing!

However OLED has been on the horizon for too long. LCD based HDR monitors will certainly be very expensive. The question is whether LCD HDR tech will go down faster then OLED? I think it will and thus LCD will continue to be the dominate force in the market.

I for one don't feel bad about that. Why? Because black levels seem to me to be the only thing OLED has over the new HDR IPS LCD panels about to hit the market.

January 12, 2017 | 08:11 PM - Posted by Oubadah

black levels are absolutely massive. Tons of old CRT era games are utterly butchered by LCD and it's piss-poor black levels. Look at games like FEAR, Unreal and STALKER. Glowing grey "blacks" take all the fear out of FEAR.

Same applies to movies. LCD for multimedia/gaming monitors has been a bad joke from day one.

January 12, 2017 | 09:02 PM - Posted by Oubadah

I don't agree with their asessment of burn in (ie. that plasmas had permanent burn and OLED has temporary IR). It was much more common to see IR on plasmas than it was to see burn, although they both existed. My Panasonic v20 had atrocious IR, but it always cleared eventually (I was very careful to ensure that no burn occurred).

Likewise, you can often clear temporary IR from an OLED display, but I've seen plenty of phones with UI elements permanently burned into them.

January 12, 2017 | 08:58 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Rec.2020 color is the real big news.

I didnt click on the shithole that Arse Technically Incompetent is tofind out if those fucking soylent drinking clown shoes even mentioned it.

Seriously Arse is the worst piece of shit pseudoscience publication out there.

January 12, 2017 | 10:37 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I prefer Soylent Green, a side order of fava beens, and a nice Chianti before reading any of Ars Technica's pseudoscience related offerings!

January 13, 2017 | 10:22 AM - Posted by fvbounty

I've had a LG 65 EF9500 OLED since April and I just checked and I have over 1600 hours on it and all I can say once you go Oled you can't go back...now for a 30 inch Oled monitor!

January 14, 2017 | 09:05 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

In march, Dell is releasing a 30 inch 120hz 3840x2160 IPS monitor. Link here: https://pcmonitors.info/dell/dell-up3017q-4k-uhd-oled-monitor/

January 14, 2017 | 11:32 AM - Posted by fvbounty

That's $2000 more than my 65" Oled...lol

January 16, 2017 | 10:54 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Dell cancelled it. OLED sucks for PC use. Massive burn in (retention) issues.

January 16, 2017 | 10:57 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Yes it's pretty easy to go back, OLED is good for movies with dark scenes, not much else. Input lag with HTPC use or gaming is like 3 times as high as good LCD's and that is fact. Burnin is a huge problem with static images, like HTPC / Console.

How do i know? Because I've tried 5 OLED TVs 2016 models (B6/E6) and they all had issues.

January 13, 2017 | 11:13 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Appropriately, the only tag for this story is "oled." Just "oled," nothing else.

January 16, 2017 | 10:53 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

LG can stop the hype. Tried 3 different 65 inch B6 models and 2 E6, all sucked for gaming and had stutter in many videos. White looked purple at times. Banding was an issue. And LG has tons of software issues, like usual LG is slow as hell with updates.

OLED is far from perfect. Neither is LCD. No display tech is perfect right now. Maybe around 2020 we will start seeing close to perfect techs.

January 17, 2017 | 01:04 PM - Posted by superj (not verified)

Anything pixel pattern other than RGB seems to render text very poorly when used a monitor in my experience. Tried a couple 4k TVs including an LG RBGW TV. Basically the ClearType doesn't work properly because of the non-standard subpixel arrangement.

March 16, 2017 | 09:39 AM - Posted by Noble Savage (not verified)

Huh is there any OLED monitor in the pipeline?

I'm aware of the Dell Ultrasharp UP3017Q (30" / 4K res) which was announced at CES '16 but Dell just confirmed it fell through internal QA and will never be launched.

HDR will surely be a big thing in '17 but isn't Quantum Dot the technology that will actually power HDR enabled panels?

Sure, there is a clear winner OLED vs. Quantum Dot... OLED. But Quantum Dot panels are way cheaper and still have many of the benefits OLED panels have (i.e. brightness, colour richness).


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