Dell Releases the SE2717H Display: 27-inch IPS and FreeSync for $249

Subject: Displays | August 4, 2016 - 09:20 PM |
Tagged: vrr, variable refresh rate, SE2717H, monitor, ips, freesync, display, dell, 27-inch

Dell's newest monitor is the SE2717H, a 27-inch display with AMD's FreeSync technology and an IPS panel - all for just $249.

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The matte-finish display offers 1920x1080 resolution, with a variable refresh-rate range from 48 Hz - 75 Hz, with a 6 ms response time. The 6-bit panel achieves 16.7 million colors via FRC (frame rate control, A.K.A. dithering), so it perhaps wouldn't be appropriate for color-accurate work, but just fine for gaming.

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Dell SE2717H Specifications:

  • Display Size: 27 Inches
  • Aspect Ratio: (16:9)
  • Backlight Technology: LED
  • Display Screen Coating: Antiglare with 3H hardness
  • Panel Type: In-Plane switching Technology
  • Panel Bits: 6-bits + FRC panel
  • Maximum Resolution: 1920 x 1080
  • Viewing Angle: 178° vertical / 178° horizontal
  • Contrast Ratio: 1000: 1 (typical), 8 Million: 1 (Dynamic)
  • Pixel Pitch: 0.3114 mm
  • Pixel Per Inch (PPI): 82
  • Brightness: 300 cd/m2 (typical)
  • Response Time: 6ms (gray to gray)
  • Free Sync support frame frequency: Yes, 48-75Hz
  • Color Support:
    • Color Gamut (typical): 84% (CIE 1976), 72% (CIE 1931)
    • Color Depth: 16.7 Million colors
  • Narrow Bezel (Edge of Monitor to Edge of viewable screen) 11mm
  • Stand
    • Tilt (-5° to 21°)
    • Built in cable-management

The Dell SE2717H montitor is priced at $249.99 and available now on Dell's website, with the Amazon listing live, but not in stock yet.

Source: Dell

August 4, 2016 | 09:31 PM - Posted by fmq203 (not verified)

This + RX470!!

August 4, 2016 | 10:07 PM - Posted by arbiter

27inch monitor + 1080p panel == looks like crap least using 1080p on mine does.

August 9, 2016 | 02:20 PM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

that's what happens when you use a crappy monitor, it looks like crap!

August 4, 2016 | 10:15 PM - Posted by Blassster (not verified)

1080p at that size, with 6-bit+FRC? Bleh. It's going to suck no matter what cost.

August 4, 2016 | 11:09 PM - Posted by Chaitanya Shukla

except Dells Premium ultrasharp monitors, even the normal ultrasharps use 6bit+frc panels. And I am using U2417H for last couple of days and that monitor doesn't seem to suck at all.

August 4, 2016 | 11:01 PM - Posted by johnc (not verified)

1080p in 2016. Where do we send our paychecks?

August 4, 2016 | 11:34 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

"AMD's FreeSync technology" I'll bet that on no place on that monitor will there be any "FreeSync" branding, it will have the VESA displayport adaptive-sync branding.

August 5, 2016 | 12:48 AM - Posted by kurros

Is the branding normally on the monitor? The product page calls out the AMD and FreeSync trademarks.

For "DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync" you still need to license the patents from AMD, anyway. The cost of the trademarks are probably trivial after that.

August 5, 2016 | 01:10 AM - Posted by JosiahBradley

Stop spreading lies. From VESA themselves:

Implementation of DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync is offered to VESA members without any license fee.

Hence the FREE in freesync. The standard has existed since 2009 in eDP and many scaler manufacturers already support the standard in old hardware they just need to adapt to larger form factors. This explains the rapid adoption rate of freesync as it was already mostly implemented.

August 5, 2016 | 04:01 AM - Posted by kurros

Adaptive-Sync was already part of the DisplayPort patent portfolio that VESA members are already paying for, yes.

This monitor has no DisplayPort connections. It only has an HDMI port and does depend on AMD's extensions that allow Adaptive-Sync over HDMI. My point is that using the AMD FreeSync trademark as Dell is doing is probably trivial after that.

August 5, 2016 | 07:24 AM - Posted by JohnGR

Adaptive sync is in the market thanks to AMD.

Nvidia did created the market for adaptive sync desktop monitors, but made it proprietary and expensive.

AMD on the other hand made Adaptive sync something viable and FREE on the desktop. Don't forget that you need also the GPU to support it. If AMD wasn't taking the initiative, your only hope would have been Intel. And without AMD in the market, monitors with GSync would have been much more expensive today.

The rapid adoption of Freesync is because it comes with ZERO ROYALTIES.

That's the reason for the rapid adoption, together with AMD's support. Because without AMD's support, Adaptive Sync is a technology that no one can use today. With AMD's support there is a reason for manufacturers to implement it. So now it is everywhere. A technology that everyone with any GPU can use. And when I say ANY, I mean ANY. It's up to Intel and Nvidia to decide to support it. No one stops them.

August 5, 2016 | 07:24 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Intel already supports Adaptive-Sync.

August 5, 2016 | 07:59 AM - Posted by JohnGR

They do? In their drivers? I thought they where just thinking about it.

August 5, 2016 | 11:18 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Intel has confirmed and formally announced they will be supporting Adaptive Sync.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/212642-intel-will-support-freesync-sta...

This is especially important since their cross licensing agreement with nvidia is ending early in 2017.

August 5, 2016 | 03:04 PM - Posted by JohnGR

Yes I remember this, that's why I was asking specifically for driver support TODAY. I guess we will have to wait only a little longer and see if adaptive sync is in the specs of Kaby Lake.

If Intel support's it, it will be good news for Nvidia fans also, because Nvidia will be forced to also support it and market GSync as something superior, but probably not as much more expensive solution compared to Adaptive sync as it is today.

August 5, 2016 | 11:30 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

No eDP was made for laptops for energy savings reasons, and "FreeSync" was adapted for external monitors with AMD taking eDP and using it with external Monitors, so not much in the way of new engineering required. However in order to get a wider adoption, and as a reason for getting VESA standards adoption of an external monitor usage of VESA's eDP made into Adaptive-Sync, AMD should have been required to drop the branding. The branding should be properly referred to as VESA Display Port Adaptive-Sync and in fact Display Port Adaptive-Sync(TM) is a registered trademark of the VESA standards organization.

When you have a Standards body such as VESA that has a membership that includes AMD, Nvidia, Intel, and others, any branding association that comes from one of the VESA members for a technology that is now adopted by that standards body(VESA), from mostly that standards body’s IP, then that AMD branding has to be changed to the branding associated with the standards body, otherwise the other market entities will not want to participate in adopting the standard. Props go out to AMD for spearheading the eDP standard’s usage for external monitors, but once the industry standards organization adopts what is a external new usage of its VESA eDP laptop display standard for use in external monitors across the industry then that “FreeSync” branding needs to go away.

Now if AMD wants to adopt a G-sync like proprietary method like Nvidia has then AMD can properly use AMD Branding. I think that Display Port Adaptive-Sync is going to get the widest adoption, as its related costs are much less than Nvidia's G-Sync proprietary technology.

August 5, 2016 | 03:24 PM - Posted by JohnGR

It's like reading about Mantle again

"No no Mantle wasn't AMD's it was Microsoft's DX12 that AMD stole and rush to present it as it's own before Microsoft announce it's DX12".

People are so upset reading about AMD creating a tech that they go complete bananas, especially when seeing AMD's branding. I bet if Intel was using the term AMD64 for it's version of x86-64, some people would still be using Pentium 4s. More seriously there are definitely people out there that avoid consoles because they are based on AMD hardware. They probably own both Nvidia Shield console and tablet.

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If AMD was stealing - in a way - VESA's adaptive sync, VESA wouldn't have allowed the HDMI version of the technology. No way. AMD probably did something more than just creating a new shiny sticker, they worked both with hardware and software, so they can go and implement Adaptive Sync on competitive technologies like HDMI.

Also AMD's branding is more like a seal of approval, that the monitor was tested and it was found working just fine with AMD's GPUs. Like that "CE" logo or something on devices.

Monitor manufacturers don't need to send their monitor to AMD for testing. They can freely use the term Adaptive Sync and that monitor will happily work on ANY AMD card supporting the standard. The card is not going to start screaming "This is not a FreeSync monitor". You are confusing AMD with Nvidia. Nvidia, if it founds hardware in your system that is coming from the competition, will just lock certain techs. AMD doesn't care.

August 5, 2016 | 07:57 PM - Posted by AMDFreeSync

^^^^ What John said is 100% correct.

August 5, 2016 | 09:54 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

AMD’s contribution to VESA Display Port Adaptive-Sync is not similar to AMD’s contribution to Mantle, as VESA eDP was the laptop synchronization display standard used to make Display Port Adaptive-Sync. You cheapen Mantle's reputation by even using it as a false analogy of AMD's little efforts expended to make eDP with its VESA roots into Display Port Adaptive-Sync in an attempt to mistakenly compare that to what Mantle provided in the way of API DNA for both DX12 and Vulkan. You do not understand what a standards body like VESA represents with regards to the need to keep the VESA member companies' marketing/branding out of the industry standards naming for Industry Standards Technology Adoption.

I do not like Nvidia's marketing or AMD's marketing and anyone who has a need to defend marketing terms/branding for mostly obfuscation just so some Lowest Common Denominator can feel good about any single company's brand. There is plenty of branding that does little more to differentiate a product than to slap some marketing term on some technology in an attempt to lay claim to some falsely perceived innovation. AMD’s contribution to the Graphics API ecosystem via its Mantle project and AMD’s contribution to the HBM standard is on a level way above AMD’s and VESA’s taking an existing VESA eDP laptop synchronization display standard and making it work for external monitors. AMD can not make claim to very much intrinsic innovation for its so called “FreeSync”/eDP modification with VESA’s blessing into DP Adaptive-Sync as that in no way or form compares to AMD’s seminal work with Mantle(Vulkan/DX12 APIs) and HBM(Now A JEDEC standard). Really let AMD be a technology company and not a football team!

August 6, 2016 | 05:06 AM - Posted by JohnGR

The Mantle example was just a way to remind how Nvidia fanboys are going to complete meltdown mode when they see an AMD logo next to a new software/hardware technology. They can NOT accept it. They can NOT tolerate it. They have to make everyone... understand that, that logo, is wrong.

I see you also prefer to avoid what doesn't suits you and keep repeating the same things.

AGAIN

FreeSync is an optional logo to put on a monitor in case you are a manufacturer and care about that logo. It's not needed, It's optional and it only says that "this monitor was tested by AMD and it found that works with AMD cards". It's just there to differentiate those monitors that where tested from AMD, from those monitors that there not tested from AMD. A monitor without FreeSync branding on it, a monitor with Adaptive Sync branding on it, WILL STILL WORK WITH AMD CARDS.

And AGAIN.

If Adaptive Sync is just a copy of eDP, wouldn't VESA stopped AMD from implementing it on a competitive standard like HDMI? Finally DisplayPort have a nice advantage over HDMI in gaming and VESA let's AMD give that advantage to HDMI?

Stop avoiding reality.

August 6, 2016 | 03:25 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

AMD is a member of VESA along with all the major display makers and Nvidia/others. So VESA is open to new uses for its Standards by its membership. DP Adaptive-Sync is just an external monitor implementation of eDP with minor tweaks. VESA's display maker members where probably very receptive to eDP being used for that as the costs of implementing a solution are/were minimal on the part of the display makers for the features that VESA DP Adaptive-sync offers.

Again you are very clueless at to just what and how most industry standards organizations like VESA, PCI-SIG, USB-IF operate, and what companies in the related PC/Display/other related industries have representation in these various standards organizations' various standards committees and executive boards. Also again for the last time the AMD Mantle project(Vulkan/DX12), and AMD’s HBM IP investment, contributions to gaming/computing absolutely dwarfs the tiny amount of effort of both AMD and VESA expended getting DP Adaptive-Sync adopted into the external monitor devices market.

VESA really needs to tell AMD's marketing to stop all the confusing branding and go with the VESA Standards trademark naming for the technology or some of the other market players will continue to avoid adopting DP Adaptive-Sync because of the “FreeSync” branding. Can we get that technology without the marketing monkeys having a say in things. These Fanboys, and the Fanboys that point their fingers at other Fanboys, belong outside of the technology discussion as GPUs are not a religion, or a football team.

Everybody is going the eventually get async-compute hardware in their GPUs if they do not already have some of that hardware async-compute ability currently, just as Zen’s CPU core/s is getting SMT capabilities in its x86 ISA running cores like Intel has had SMT(“HyperThreading”) in its x86 ISA running cores for some years now, and Intel did not invent SMT! Nvidia did not invent tiled rendering, and AMD did not invent some other features that all GPU makers use. Hell the PowerVR Wizard GPU has dedicated Ray Tracing units in its GPU hardware, and I can not wait until the entire GPU industry adopts dedicated Ray Tracing units on all GPUs.

Reality is that your understanding the realities of the PC/GPU industry is very limited and AMD/Nvidia are really not that much different in overall technology, costs maybe but technology is more back and forth. Hell ARM Holdings' new Mail/Bifrost based GPU technology intrests me more than AMD's and Nvidia's at the current moment. I can't wait for the Hot Chips Symposium this year.

August 6, 2016 | 03:45 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

P.S. HDMI is a standards organization Look at its adoptors, the very same, for the most part, companies that are members of the other standards organizations! VESA is run by its members and most of those members are HDMI adoptors. Go figure, as to why eDP protocol allowed to be tunneled via the HDMI protocol!

http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/adopters_founders.aspx

August 7, 2016 | 01:47 AM - Posted by JohnGR

Blah blah blah and in the end you say nothing. General blah blah blah plus a "you are clueless".

The only clueless person here who keeps playing the same cassette over and over again, refusing to understand or refusing to admit that understands that 1+1 equals 2, is you.

I explained you the Mantle example, you react like you didn't understood.

I explained you about the FreeSync branding, especially that it is optional, you keep repeating the same things.

Then on the HDMI you don't answer a simple question, you just throw some general babbling about the companies. Can someone take a free VESA tech and implement it on a proprietary standard like HDMI? You keep talking about branding like it is the most important thing in the world. Yet you ignore the fact that AMD implemented FreeSync, or if you prefer, VESA's eDP, on HDMI, a competitive proprietary standard.

August 7, 2016 | 02:32 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

"VESA's eDP, on HDMI, a competitive proprietary standard"

Not so Joe S. SixPack, the HDMI Forum, USB-IF, PCI-SIG et all are industry standards organizations, they only collect fees to maintain the organization, standards development, and standards enforcement, and they are 501c like so they probably pay no taxes.

They are there to promote standardization among a particular industry or industry subgroup. My good Sir you have no inductive or deductive reasoning skills. Please re-read the post that you replied to, the answer is there. these organizations are free to cooperate with each other and do so quite often for their members' collective good!

And some simple Google FU nets this information:

"HDMI Forum

The HDMI Forum is designed to foster broader industry participation in the development of future versions of the HDMI Specification.

What is the HDMI Forum?
The HDMI Forum, Inc, is a nonprofit, mutual benefit corporation established by the HDMI Founders whose purpose is to foster broader industry participation in the development of future versions of the HDMI Specification.

Who Can Join the HDMI Forum?
Membership is open to any entity wishing to make an active and material contribution to the development of future HDMI Specifications."(1)

(1)
http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/hdmiforum.aspx

August 7, 2016 | 04:16 PM - Posted by JohnGR

Not so you say, and then what do you do? Throw out a general opinion of yours, a few info about HDMI and that's all?

Once again you write a big post of nothing.

HDMI and DisplayPort are two competitive standards. The fact that companies can become members or whatever in both organizations doesn't change that. AMD, Intel and Nvidia both support DX12 and Vulkan. DX12 and Vulkan are competitive APIs. The end.

August 5, 2016 | 12:16 PM - Posted by Stefem (not verified)

It's FREE wow! where I can grab mine?

August 5, 2016 | 12:35 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Yup, Free-Sync is FREE in the Crimson Drivers already! You can download the Crimson Drivers at AMD's web site.

Then you just need an Adaptive-Sync compatible monitor!

August 5, 2016 | 07:53 PM - Posted by AMDFreeSync

The license fee for the use of FreeSync is exactly ZERO dollars. As has been elsewhere clarified FreeSync is free. AMD does extend the VESA adaptive sync spec and we do have minimum requirements that go beyond the basic adaptive sync requirement in order to call a display FreeSync certified. No display is FreeSync certified unless it passes our testing. In addition we provide support for FreeSync on HDMI. With each generation of displays our testing becomes more stringent. For example we have recently added input lag as a test. Displays that fail our parameters do not qualify as FreeSync certified. If you purchase a new display with the FreeSync logo you can expect it to perform well as a gaming display.

August 8, 2016 | 05:50 AM - Posted by JohnGR

WE?

OK assuming you work for AMD, I think it's about time to create a "FreeSync Premium" label for those monitors that can support LFC. You have to push manufacturers to support wider ranges of frequencies so LFC can work. Those who don't like it, they can choose the typical "FreeSync" not Premium label, or to put thew Adaptive Sync logo on their specs.

Now, I know that you are chickens. You are scared to the bone AIBs and OEMs. I mean laptop manufacturers are sabotaging AMD laptops and you say nothing. FutureMark comes out with a DX12 benchmark that tries to make Nvidia cards look equal to AMD cards in async and you say nothing. But I believe you should start taking initiatives here and there. And FreeSync is something that should be pushed in a better way that it is today. People should know that a monitor with a frequency from 48-75Hz does NOT show the true capabilities of FreeSync.

That, assuming you work for AMD.

August 5, 2016 | 02:37 AM - Posted by JohnGR

48-75Hz. No LFC support.

August 5, 2016 | 07:27 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Nice! That's quite good for the price!

Can't wait to see if the Freesync range and be underclocked even more. :)

August 5, 2016 | 11:30 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

any hacked nvidia drivers to get desktop gpus to work with a-sync displays? it seems everyone has forgotten about the fact that nvidia laptops can run gsync without a module...

August 5, 2016 | 12:14 PM - Posted by Stefem (not verified)

On selected panel with hand crafted tuning, it seems many forgot that enabling VRR, while keeping quality, is not even close to flipping a switch

August 5, 2016 | 01:15 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

No because Nvidia is using the eDP standard to drive the laptop internal display, and Nvidia is using its G-Sync proprietary technology to drive any external display/s!
Maybe the internal Intel graphics can drive any Display Port Adaptive-Sync, but I'll bet that even the Intel drivers are customized by the OEM and Nvidia to keep things locked down the Nvidia lock-in way! There is probably some things to keep the laptop locked down by the OEM also to get the Nvidia G-sync branding, but I wonder about the Intel support for Display Port Adaptive-Sync.

August 6, 2016 | 01:52 AM - Posted by arbiter

as much as everyone craps on g-sync being proprietary, to this day its works with 0 problems, freesync is still ways behind in catching up in working as well.

August 9, 2016 | 02:30 PM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

Freesync actually works quite well.

August 5, 2016 | 07:12 PM - Posted by quest4glory

That settles it. Sending back the 32" Ultra HD G-Sync monitor I just got for this and an RX 470. /s

August 6, 2016 | 06:24 AM - Posted by Idiot (not verified)

"...variable refresh-rate range from 48 Hz - 75 Hz"
Who will buy such monitor? Even 30-144 hz might not be enough for games like Quantum Break where frame rate often drops to 25-30 fps with upscaling off even on high-end GPUs.

August 6, 2016 | 09:22 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

AMD runs Quantum Break just fine. It's just nvidia which has performance problems.

August 8, 2016 | 08:22 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

No, there is not much difference between AMD and Nvidia in this game. this game is just badly optimized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4At5YLl8PI

August 6, 2016 | 03:07 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

27 1080 yuck

August 7, 2016 | 03:54 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Bigger pixels usually means better local contrast. Sit 20% further away and enjoy your superior equivalent of a 24-incher.

August 8, 2016 | 09:30 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

no thanks ill take 1440 at 27

August 9, 2016 | 02:41 PM - Posted by Anonymously Anonymous (not verified)

good luck on getting a 1440p ips monitor with adaptive sync for under $300

December 25, 2016 | 09:59 AM - Posted by davidmeyer (not verified)

that's pretty dope

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