Update: May 11th @ 6pm EDT
NVIDIA has released new footage, which is both higher quality and longer. It is still running on the Vulkan API, although the graphics card has been switched out to the Titan X. The game is running at 1080p, 120-degree FOV, with all settings at their maximum. The game was locked to 60 FPS, but that makes sense — they wanted it to look good on video.
The video is embedded above. NVIDIA is also self-hosting their original capture (plus a blog post) if you want to see it without YouTube's recompression (or you don't want to stream from YouTube for other reasons).
Bethesda also has their own, new video, which is just above this.
We return to the original news post, below.
At the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 event, which aligns with DreamHack Austin, id Software showed off DOOM running on Vulkan API. It will not make launch, which is this upcoming Friday, May 13th, but the game will be patched to support it “really, really shortly after launch”. Ryan was not there, but PC Gamer took video of the presentation and posted it to their YouTube.
Video Credit: PC Gamer
We don't know how performance compares with OpenGL, but the Vulkan numbers (running on the GTX 1080) are pretty impressive. After they uncapped the engine, the listed frame rate stayed above 120 FPS except in the most intense battles, at which point it had momentary drops to about 100-120 FPS. According to PC Gamer, because I didn't hear it explicitly mentioned in the video, this is all at 1080p.
That's… good… to say the least.
This also means a game that officially supports Vulkan will land at around the same time as DirectX 12. We have a few DirectX 12 titles but, while Ashes of the Singularity is a good example, Gears of War: Ultimate Edition was plagued with performance problems, and so was Quantum Break. Tomb Raider and Hitman have DirectX 12 support, too, but it doesn't signal a commanding lead for DirectX 12. It still depends upon the engines, especially Unreal Engine, CryEngine, Frostbite, and Unity, but it's another sign that Vulkan arrived on time.
DOOM Launches on Friday the 13th.
More Vulkan news YES! Now
More Vulkan news YES! Now more Steam OS and Vulkan benchmarking instead of only DX12/UWP and the eventual lockout of the gaming market on M$’s windows 10, unless you pay that 30% of the action. That windows 10 EULA gives it all away to the Lords in Redmond, no matter what they say now!
And the prophet Gaben went up onto the Valcano, and there he saw a Burning Vulkan, and the Vulkan said beware the Dark Lords of Redmond! For they are all about that extra 30% of the gaming action, and the annoying ads, and the secret spyware logging thine every keystroke!
I wouldn’t trust those
I wouldn’t trust those numbers until I see the FCAT analysis. Probably tons of micro stutter.
FCAT will be difficult
FCAT will be difficult because we don't really have a way to inject into a Vulkan process yet. But yes, software-recorded frames could be very misleading.
Micro stutter generally is
Micro stutter generally is common in CF/SLI settup’s no so much in single gpu systems. Mostly nvidia has been pretty good about keeping it out amd has had their issues but have improved on it over time.
I really like the fact it’s
I really like the fact it’s using Vulkan, but it’s a shame that such a shit game is using it.
Doom4 is really a letdown, the open beta was more of an eye opener than anything.
Doesn’t matter what game it
Doesn’t matter what game it is. We need more games adopting Vulkan. Though for Id tech engine the choice of using Vulkan instead of DirectX 12 is to be expected.
stop pandering because you
stop pandering because you are a windows 10 hater.
Yeah, no. You have to be
Yeah, no. You have to be insane to accept a closed-source, locked down OS AND graphics API. You’re mental.
Closed-source is an efficient
Closed-source is an efficient IP protection against competitors, more than patent or copyright because the industrial secret cost is null.
Open source could be a good thing for the widespread of obsolete technologies or its standardization, but in a competitive market closed source is a necessity since the justice administration is slow and expensive.
What is wrong in hating a
What is wrong in hating a product that spies on you. I will not touch that piece of **** with a ten foot pole. I control what software goes to my computer and what does not. Anyone has not and should not have any remote control of MY machine unless I grant the permission. I control the information that leaves from my machine.
PC stands for personal computer, not microsoft’s very own remote desktop to which it can do whatever it pleases trough “updates” because you can not say no. It already spies on you which they admit and the fact that you can not turn the spying off.
First, look at what you put
First, look at what you put in your mouth before vomiting on closed source softwares…
You CAN disable the random
You CAN disable the random information that is suppose to be sent to Microsoft, or “spying”. Look up how to disable Telemetry. There’s a registry key you must add and a service you must stop. That’s it. Also, go into the privacy settings and disable everything, which doesn’t sound secure, but I think that was Microsoft’s intention. Disabling everything in the privacy settings actually keeps Microsoft information sharing apps from being used autonomously. Your welcome. You can now rest easy. 😉
Lol. While i’m not too fond
Lol. While i’m not too fond about some of windows 10 EULA i did not hate the OS itself. Currently using win 10 pro. Even if your concern is gaming only win 10 is better than win 7. and it’s not because of DX12.
Privacy is needed in order to
Privacy is needed in order to fully and independently think what you make of the world – otherwise you are always subjected to peer pressure and collective thinking. Therefore privacy is fundamental to individuality. Microsoft is a willing partner to NSA and the rest. No big company in the USA is different. These are the facts that have been proven. You as a human being have value, if MS and the rest do with you what ever they wish – mine you, spy you and violate you – you are perfectly happy just standing idly and watching it happen?
if protecting yourself and fighting for your rights means trivial daily things like not upgrading to Win10, then why not to do it? If democracy and true liberty is devalueted by shiny things, then you are effectively just reliving the American history where American-Indians sold their lands for crappy merchandise and booze.
I do not understand why you let people to stamp on you like that – they are not your friends, they do not like you (if they don’t despise you outright), but they do fear you, if you don’t do what they want. That fear means that you have the power to make the world as you want it to be, but you can’t make it anything, if you don’t take a stand. But in order take a stand you must first be able to think critically – that is the power they want to steal from you and turn it into their wealth (and it doesn’t trickle down).
Uh please stop it. I have no
Uh please stop it. I have no interest in this whole fight against MS. And ultimately you can’t force your ideal towards others even if you think you were doing the right thing.
He is entitled to his opinion
He is entitled to his opinion though, and his comment was in context, so please don’t try to shut him up.
Personally, I agree with him, every word.
It’s not that people hate
It’s not that people hate windows, it’s just that they hate M$! And people hate Monopolies! Monopolies run counter to the free markets, and folks have always hated Ma Bell back in that day, or Standard Oil Trust way way back in the day when the government and the people, and the other business interests got tired and decided to enact the first antitrust laws! These laws where meant to promote fair competition and prevent the Standard Oil Trust, the M$’s and the Intel’s from happening in the first place!
So now we have a big OS monopoly interest(M$) trying to force a closed Apple Style ecosystem onto the independent third party PC/Laptop OEM market. M$ has a large market share of the OS market(89-90%), and M$’s monopoly market share is not illegal in and of itself, but using it’s large market share to try and vertically integrate the independent third party PC/laptop OEM’s, and their third party OEM market into M$’s closed OS software/API/Other monetization scheme is the very definition of an antitrust violation!
M$ is trying to corner that OS to the third party PC/laptop OEMs software ecosystem(API/gaming/search/ad/other) market. And corner the software ecosystem of the only third party PC/Laptop OEM market that once(Before windows 8/10) used a M$ OS and software/API ecosystem that was relatively open to others without a UWP/TIFKAM(Vertical Integrating Scheme), or forced updates, or ads, or telemetry/user data gathering for other than OS/API/Driver software QC purposes!
M$ is using/abusing its broad OS market influence to create a M$ OS/API/Software ecosystem Trust, and rule over the third party [Independent]OEM PC/Laptop makers, ant their third party OEM OS/Software/API/Gaming/Other PC/Laptop software and application ecosystem, and over the OEMs customer base by extension!
It’s easy to Avoid Apple, jut avoid Apple’s hardware and you avoid Apple’s closed software/OS/hardware ecosystem! But M$ as a supplier of the OS part to all the independent PC/laptop OEMs can not be readily avoided, and of Spacial Concern is M$’s UEFI secure boot key signing authority over the entire windows OS based independent PC/Laptop OEM maker’s Market! That firmware( M$ windows secure Boot) and software key signing authority needs to be monitored by the US Justice department’s antitrust division!
Steam OS/Linux and Other OSs need some Government action against M$ or the open market’s software/APIs/gaming/Other third party PC/laptop hardware/software/OS/API/Application open ecosystems businesses will be unfairly excuded from the Independent third patry PC/laptop OEM market.
P.S. No Matter what M$ says
P.S. No Matter what M$ says and does about openness NOW, that is completely negated by that windows 10 EULA, and those who agree to that EULA have given M$ the rights to close things completely up at any time!
So short of any government action, M$ can do its will with users’ third party OEM produced PC/Laptop hardware/firmware and software/OS/API ecosystems under windows 10 and the PC’s/Laptop’s Firmware! Better hope there is a UEFI/BIOS windows secure boot [OFF] switch in that NEW PC’s/Laptop’s firmware that came with windows 10 factory installed!
You forgot to mention that a
You forgot to mention that a lot a open source advocates hate to pay for any kind of work but wish others would pay for their… that’s what I call the social scam of left promoters: do what I say but not what I do.
The coin of the realm under
The coin of the realm under the GPL licenses is source code, and only source code is the legal tender! So if you want to take advantage of others’ code contributions under GPL, and place you code into the mix, and benifit from others’ GPL licensed code, then you must tender your source code contribution as payment for using the other’s code contributions; Without which your code would not be functional unless your code uses/takes advantage of the others’ code contributions!
There are other less restrictive open source licenses so go with those! But under the GPU licenses, source code is the only legal tender! the GPL is a source code bartering system!
Sure others are able to use the code witout contributions of any source code, or without paying($, £, Bitcoin), but that is part of the GPL, and the GPL contributors’ credo!
China don’t care about of
China don’t care about of your copyright or the GPL license. The price of contribution is a moral contract that will never be paid…
Don’t try to convince any high tech company with a big H to give their IP for free under the GPL, that would never happen!
If you need open source softwares, don’t blame high tech companies for wasting your time with obsolete softwares…
China does not matter, China
China does not matter, China exports products to the other parts of the world that can enforce GPL fair play on China, by not allowing the offending GPL using software/hardware/firmware products into any nation that has the legal support for the GPL licensing agreements!
I’m afraid your portrait of
I’m afraid your portrait of China is incomplete. China is well known for counterfeiting every single thing on the planet and specially for its home market.
Western countries should realize that the only consumer market inside China is represented by apparachiks of the communist party and not the billion of peasants exploited by their leaders.
Many western companies lost millions of dollars to enforce their IP in China with no return because the chinese market and globally the asian market is enclosed by communitarianism.
Actually, western countries should better invest in Africa because even with dictators, the african community is more open to trade with foreigners for exports and imports too.
Most All of Walmart’s
Most All of Walmart’s products come from China, same for CVS, Walgreens, others and so what! Any counterfeit products can be seized, including products using counterfeit software/firmware. The Open Source software is free for anyone to use, just not to sale, and even then most Chinese businesses are going to get their own free Linux distro off of the major websites in China that offer it there, or anywhere else in the world! WTF is it with you and China!
“even with dictators” what are you a follower of Franco, it’s 5/8/2016 and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!
Get over your irrational fear of Bolsheviks in your bathroom, and China sure is not communist, it’s authoritarian yes, but it’s definitely about the money in China. What the Hell does Democracy in the west have to do with communism or capitalism, here you are free there, and and in all authoritarian countries(communist/capitalist/whatever), you are not free!
The communist party is still
The communist party is still the first party in the country though by repeating your BS you could belive in your own lies…
About free software, chinese don’t care about your coypyright or your GPL and counterfeit your code to make closed software is not an exception, it is the rule!
VeryCD is a well known chinese company for counterfeiting free software (eMule) and instead of providing its derivative source code, the company keep it closed. It can’t be otherwise since the chinese market is full of fake products so VeryCD help the chinese consumer to counterfeit digital music, movies, etc
Communist party in name only,
Communist party in name only, they are all about the dollar(or other world currencies that have as much stability)!
Well if it(infringing product) shows up in the products bound for rest of the world and is sold for money, or used without following the terms and conditions of the GPL license, then legal measures can be employed! Copyright and patent infringement happens all over the globe!
Legal measures are a waste of
Legal measures are a waste of time and money in countries which do not respect IP rights from foreigners…
Edit: GPU licenses
to: GPL
Edit: GPU licenses
to: GPL licenses
P.S. You on the Right, as
P.S. You on the Right, as well as those on the Left, can sometimes be such Abject moralists with respect to your political interjections over open source software and other matters! It’s really a pain for those that are in the middle of the political schism between the left and the right, but that (left/right)Abject Moralism part of democracy is a real pain! Folks in the middle can and do hope that both of your camps could somehow miraculously meet like matter and antimatter and cancel each other out.
You way over John Birch Society types on the right and you way over Marxist/Leninists types on the left! And although your groups are diametrically opposed on the political/economic fronts both of you sure are very much the same in your need to smite each others camps, as well as others who do not share in your views of the world!
It’s rather ironic that unchecked capitalism gave birth and rational sustenance to unchecked communism, but Demoracry has nothing to do with any economic system! What a weird dichotomy there is between the left and right!
The middle side is the worse
The middle side is the worse of each side since it reverts its coat to always win whatever the direction of the political wind. I prefer a leftist with wrong convictions half of the time because errare humanum est instead of middlist pretending to always be good.
“middle side”?
“middle side”?
The middle way (right in the
The middle way (right in the hole). :o)
“The middle way”?
“The middle way”?
You do realize that Internet
You do realize that Internet – or any huge new technology were created with publicly funded (tax payers) money while all of the profits were later privatized by corporations making money to small wealthy elite (Same thing is mostly happening with pharmaceuticals today). It’s also very apparent that you do not know anything about open source or forces behind it – or you would know that most of the code comes from big companies with financial incentives. You make accusations and pile hatred to whatever it is that you think is left or socialism while you don’t even know how the whole system currently works. You would not do yourself any real harm if you bothered to educate yourself by any other means than day-time TV.
That is all. Have a nice day:)
Yes Internet, the highways,
Yes Internet, the highways, and such, even the PCI standards, and JEDEC HBM/Other memory standards. Even the standardized Open source standard kernels! U-Sam funds a whole shed load of Linux/BSD/other Kernel development, and Linux/BSD/other API/applications on top of the Linux kernel stuff, Internet included. Even M$ gets some of that tax payer funded action along with Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and others!
Every publicly funded thing is funded by publicly collected Taxes, personal, sales, property, and business taxes!
And as far as the elite, the government funds the redistribution of wealth, with taxes, and especially the inheritance tax. Do not ever let them get rid of the inheritance TAX! That inheritance TAX is the one thing that prevents all of a nation’s wealth from being so concentrated out of everyone in that nation’s hands and into the the hands of the few. Money has no real intrinsic value, it’s money in motion that has the real economic value, even to those with a whole lot of wealth, especially wealth in stocks and bonds and other investments!
A few rich people have no propensity to spend money on products, toasters/cars/other, such that any toaster factory/other businesses could stay in business tending to the toaster/other product needs of so few individuals with all the wealth so concentrated in their hands. A big middle class, and a small of a poor class as is possible, and for the poor peoples benefit too, the poor mostly dream of being middle class, and some poor become rich, but being rich is not as necessary as being middle class to a consumer economy!
Taxes are very important for
Taxes are very important for funding socialism or the economy of lazy people. Stop beging for help from your country but roll up your sleeves to create wealth for yourself. It is not selfish to fill your pockets first because it is your dignity to earn your life by yourself.
Instead of repeating leftist BS on shareholders, create your business or invest in stocks and show to the world your have balls and not diapers for begging your government to save banks consequently your pockets.
What about the disabled, and
What about the disabled, and the elderly, and children! Taxes pay for all that the government is required to provide for in the Constitution, and whatever the elected officials decide by agreement of both houses of congress and the president is worthy of including! It may be corporate welfare, and welfare for the poor, whatever! There are lazy people all over the world and who decides who are lazy and who are not.
If you try to get rid of food stamps all the big agricultural businesses will be against that like they did last time, it sure was not all some leftest activists, it was the folks that sell the food products bought with those food stamps! The rich do not care about welfare they only care about their stocks and bonds and some cash holdings/other holdings, and getting out of paying taxes, just like anybody. But the rich, and the retirement funds, individuals, are business owners(stock holders) who like for money(Food Stamps too) to be in motion buying the goods and services of the companies that the rich/others have investments in.
Welcome the post-industrial welfare state, where the rich and poor all qualify for some form of welfare! And it has always been thus!
P.S. Most people on
P.S. Most people on food-stamps are working, it’s just that the working poor’s money mostly goes for rent, and other necessary needs, so none is remaining for proper nutrition!
Why my answer about disabled,
Why my answer about disabled, eldery and children have been removed?
I didn’t insult anyone saying insurance are made to share the risk between subscribers. For example, disabled following car accident or dependence for old people, etc
Once more, I mention the main insurance for children are their own parents but I suspect this fact have been mainly censored for personal reason… Being a parent isn’t an easy task but hiding its responsibility won’t solve any problem!
Seriously shut the living
Seriously shut the living FUCK up already about off topic rants on politics all FUCKING ready!!!!!!! You fucking morons..
nobody fucking CARRRRRRRESSS you fucking spammers.. go post on political forums not here idiots..
What’s wrong with
What’s wrong with privatization? The private sector paid the price asked to get non strategic services that governments sold to pay their debt.
For what I can read from you, insults are not valid arguments…
Citizens (tax payers) took
Citizens (tax payers) took all the risks while gains were had by wealthy few. Don’t you think that gains should go to those who took all the risks? Isn’t it fundamentally what you want? If state is run by corporations and their puppets you can be sure that price of privatization is never right. Not only did the people pay the huge initial costs of developing them – they ended up paying them again and again from it’s usage after privatization. Talk about common Joe and Jane being robbed in broad daylight.
In banking this of course went like this: Private financial sector took ridiculous risks (after right wing nutters fully deregulated it) and they lost – hard. Governments run by bankers and corporations bailed them out with public money. When this happens there are no risks in doing business – citizens are just robbed out of their money when risks are eventually met and profits are always gonna go to wealthy few. Who stood to gain then? Shouldn’t citizens own those banks right now? – instead bankers just got the money for free – there you go – geez, I’ll be sure to ask more when our next endeavour fails so hard that it’s gonna tear the global economy a new one. That day might come sooner rather than later.
In the meantime this is ancient Rome all over again – if the people allow it to be like this. Why would you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvLjxSKpe-4
By all means, have a nice day:)
Again your BS won’t save your
Again your BS won’t save your lies…
The risk is paid by the private sector since the value of a privatized service is priced by the market.
About banking, nothing keep you from putting your capital (money, gold, etc) under your mattress. Take your own responsibilities instead of crying like a baby!
Edit: Spacial Concern
to:
Edit: Spacial Concern
to: Special Concern
LibreOffice please make a one button/option selection to turn off completely all automatic spelling/grammar features, and devote more attention to your spelling/dictionary and spelling algorithms.
People with dyslexia and other conditions need less aggressive automatic features and more complete/correct spelling/dictionary/thesaurus support!
Enough with the focus on feature creep, fix the word processing part of you office suite!
Why don’t you write a patch
Why don’t you write a patch instead of crying?
The way my brain is going, I
The way my brain is going, I will be lucky to be able to do anything, but I have sent some error emails, and such! So Cry I will, as that is my right! I’d love to donate to LibreOffice, but the donations can not be earmarked for ONLY spelling/dictionary improvements and/or for disabled functionality only! Maybe I’ll see if LibreOffice has any grant writers to get funding for people with dyslexia and other problems! Spelling and eyesight are big problems for some!
All your BS won’t change
All your BS won’t change anything to your problem. You may have the right to cry but LibreOffice developers have also the right to not consider your groans.
They will consider missing
They will consider missing English language words, their plural forms, and some very glaring omissions and missing prefixes from the English language! And they will consider some other vary annoying automatic and other things that do make them look very bad to me and to others. And this is true even if they do not like me or ever like me and my crying! And I’ll cry just to annoy you! So keep crying for me to stop!
Spell checked with LibreOffice!
I used to be a fan of
I used to be a fan of Microsoft for last 15 years their OS were good, amount of problems was minimal and you could do anything you wanted with it- but Windows 10 put a stop to that.
As long as alternatives exist I don’t want to instal something which takes control of my pc from me.
And you know Doom 4 is a shit
And you know Doom 4 is a shit game because….?
Because he’s full of that
Because he’s full of that same shit.
You really can’t judge Doom 4
You really can’t judge Doom 4 by the multiplayer. Having played the singleplayer campaign, I can safely say the difference is like night and day, it almost isn’t even the same game.
Thanks AMD
says……nobody
Thanks AMD
says……nobody
Thanks AMD 🙂
Thanks AMD 🙂
Yeah thanks AMD for lying in
Yeah thanks AMD for lying in bed with Microsoft and pushing windows 10 together with them.
AMD you are warned! Your
AMD you are warned! Your customers that value your lower cost alternative GPU/APU SKUs also want your Zen/APU and Polaris GPU/APU graphics products available from some Linux OS based PC/laptop OEMs, with a big stress on the Linux OS based laptop OEM market!
I need a new laptop with a Carrizo APU and AMD discrete GPU option from a Linux laptop OEM! Ditto for a Linux OS OEM laptop SKU with a Bristol Ridge APU/discrete mobile AMD GPU option, Ditto for Zen CPU/APU based laptop with a discrete Polaris/other newer GPU option from a Linux OS based laptop OEM!
Get Zen and Polaris/Vega in some Steam OS based OEM SKUs, PC or even laptop SKUs with Steam OS/Linux! You do not want or need that M$ windows 10 anchor around your neck, no water wings will keep you afloat with that 10 ton windows 10 anchor around your neck!
this reminds me of the UT
this reminds me of the UT openGL days.
There’s an article here at
There’s an article here at ZDNet that explains why Windows 10 is not spying on their users….
http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-microsoft-is-not-spying-on-you-with-windows-10/
It’s not a bug, it’s a
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature… :o)
How much Microsoft paid for
How much Microsoft paid for this advertorial?
It’s by Ed, for M$, Bott!
It’s by Ed, for M$, Bott! He’s the Bott that’s paid a lot to spin things Redmond’s way!
I’m happy to see the Vulkan
I’m happy to see the Vulkan uptake. Hopefully most devs vote with their feet and use tech like Vulkan, SDL2, Steam, etc. that give them the widest possible audience (Windows 7/8, Mac, SteamOS/Linux, PS4 — basically everything not Windows 10/Xbox).
I’m sad that id Software hasn’t made a compelling first party game in over 10 years and has been hostile to Linux for almost as long. So I won’t hold my breath waiting for Doom to reverse any of those trends.
What about AMD? Will this
What about AMD? Will this game work with Vulkan on R9 290?
Holy fuckin christ!!! Having
Holy fuckin christ!!! Having to sift through all the mundane garbage post’s just to get relevant feedback on said topic is an absolute pain in the ass on this site anymore. There really isn’t any love for hardware or API’s anymore. Topics almost always devolve into some political pro/anti corporation fuck fest. Get out every once in a while guys. The pussy is out there just waiting fer ya. I promise!
I want my Vulkan patch
I want my Vulkan patch already! This game runs very wierd with vsync on. It always locks to 60 and when it dips down it locks to 30.
Im actually quite dissapointed. 780 dipping down to 30…
Nice going Nfailure.
Try to disable vsync in game
Try to disable vsync in game and enable adaptive sync on nvidia control panel
Shortly my arse! Its already
Shortly my arse! Its already June and the Vulkan support isn’t out yet. Most people have already completed the SP campaign by now.
“really, really shortly after
“really, really shortly after launch” – What a joke. It’s looking unlikely to support Crossfire either. Could have been a great game; but instead became a mediocre nvidia demo event.
Its already nearing the end
Its already nearing the end of June, still not out yet! I guess ID’s definition of shortly is a year.