Subject: Cases and Cooling | June 8, 2018 - 11:39 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: cooler master, amd, Threadripper, threadripper 2, Zen+, computex, computex 2018, tr4
In an interview with AMD Senior Vice President Jim Anderson, PC World's Gordon Mah Ung got the chance to discuss and get hands on with second generation Threadripper as well as AMD's new Wraith Ripper air cooler. Developed in partnership with Cooler Master, the Wraith Ripper is a massive air cooler capable of keeping even the upcoming 32 core Threadripper processor cool (allegedly a 250W TDP part!) which, as Jim Anderson notes, has all four dies on the package being used (first generation Threadripper used two hot dies and two spacers).
The behemoth features a full cover block for Threadripper that connects to a very dense aluminum fin stack using 14 nickel plated copper heatpipes. There is a single fan in the center of the fin stack hiding under a black fan shroud that covers the top and left and right sides. The black shroud also holds the customizable RGB lighting which lights up the logo and outline around the edges of the shroud. The fan is allegedly rated at 39 dBa which is pretty good considering the amount of heat it needs to dissipate from Threadripper CPUs. Likely due to the HSF's sheer size Cooler Master was able to go with a larger and slower spinning fan.
Other details like weight, cost, and release date are still unknown though it does appear to have some heft to it! It should be available later this year following the Q3 launch of second generation Threadripper though it will work fine with first generation Threadripper processors as well as they use the same TR4 socket.
- Computex 2018: AMD previews 32-core Threadripper CPUs for Q3
- Computex 2018: MSI Unleashes X399 MEG Creation Motherboard for Threadripper 2
Subject: Motherboards | June 8, 2018 - 10:54 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: X399, tr4, threadripper 2, Threadripper, msi, computex 2018, computex, amd
Following AMD’s reveal of a 32 core Threadripper 2 (12nm Zen+ not Zen 2) processor using all four dies coming in Q3, it is only natural that new TR4 socket motherboards would emerge. MSI was well prepared for the reveal with its upcoming X399 MEG Creation motherboard on display at Computex. The massive E-ATX motherboard features a black PCB with silver accents and two huge heatsinks covering the VRMs in the top left and the chipset and three M.2 slots in the bottom right. The TR4 socket sits between eight DDR4 DIMM slots and is topped by a ludicrous 16+3 power phase (doubled eight for vCore, the remaining phases for vSoC) cooled by a large heatsink. The board takes power from two 8-pin and one 24-pin power connector.
TechPowerUp got hands on with the new board at Computex.
Below the processor sits four PCI-E x16 slots (wired x16/x8/x16/x8) and a single PCI-E x1 slot. There are eight SATA 6 Gbps ports along the right edge of the board and below the L shaped heatsink users can install three M.2 solid state drives. MSI claims that enthusiasts can install up to seven M.2 drives using the 3 M.2 slots on the motherboard as well as four slots provided by a PCI-E add-on card (e.g. MSI Xpander AERO PCIe).
Around back the X399 MEG Creation offers up 10 USB 3.1 ports (one Type-C), two Gigabit Ethernet ports, two Wi-Fi antenna connectors for the 2x2 802.11ac Wi-Fi and BT 5.0 radios, and six audio outputs (5 analog, one optical).
The massive Threadripper motherboard reportedly has 10 PWM fan connectors and three temperature sensors to aid in cooling and overclocking. The board also has handy BIOS flashing and overclocking features galore.
The X399 MEG Creation supports Threadripper as well as the upcoming Threadripper 2000 series processors and should make for an interesting setup for enthusiasts! The lack of 10 Gigabit Ethernet is dissapointing, but at least the two gigabit NICs are Intel based (MSI is using Intel for the Wi-Fi as well). If you are curious about the new X399 board, Tom's Hardware and TechPowerUp managed to snap several photos of the high-end motherboard at the MSI booth. If you prefer video, Gamer's Nexus has a short clip of it here.
KitGuru is reporting that the massive motherboard will cost upwards of $500. MSI has not yet revealed a launch date. Presumably we can expect the X399 MEG Creation to be available sometime in Q3 just in time for the Threadripper 2000 series availability.
Subject: General Tech | June 7, 2018 - 11:50 AM | Alex Lustenberg
Tagged: xTend, xps, video, Vega, Threadripper, Snapdragon 850, seasonic, scmd, ROG, qualcomm, podcast, Optane, nvidia, microsoft, logitech, Killer Wireless, Isaac, InWin, Intel, i7-8086k, git, fortnite, EPYC, dell, crystal, corsair, CaseKing, asus, aorus, amd, 7nm
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Subject: Processors | June 5, 2018 - 11:03 PM | Ryan Shrout
Tagged: Threadripper, ryzen, amd, 32-core, 12nm
During the keynote address at Computex in Taipei, AMD SVP Jim Anderson was on stage to showcase a preview of the upcoming 2000-series of Threadripper processors for high-end consumer PCs. The Threadripper brand already made waves last year by bringing 16-core and 32-thread designs to the market for the very first time, improving performance for extreme productivity tasks, rendering, development, video, and more.
We knew that the 2000-series was coming this year, based on the 12nm process from GlobalFoundries, just as the Ryzen 2000-series uses, but we have narrowed the availability time frame to Q3 of 2018.
But the big story at the show was that this generation would see a doubling of the maximum core count on Threadripper. Yes, you will be able to buy 32-core and 64-thread AMD Threadripper CPUs later this year!!
Hot on the heels of the impressive, but dubiously cooled, Intel 28-core demo yesterday, AMD is clearly intent on continuing momentum that is has built throughout 2017. AMD didn’t show us any Cinebench numbers, but my understanding is that the demo provided was completely air cooled. Intel’s…not so much. While impressive to see 28-cores at 5 GHz yesterday, more impressive is a 32-core machine with a system design I would be willing to implement.
No more details on pricing, performance, or platform were made available during the keynote, but we’ll be asking those questions as the week progresses.
Get ready for 32-cores!!
Subject: Networking | April 26, 2018 - 03:52 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: tr4, Threadripper, MASTERAIR MA621P, cooler master, amd, air cooler
So far we have mostly seen reviews of watercoolers for Threadripper but there is an air cooler designed to tame this multi-threaded beast. The Cooler Master MASTERAIR MA621P is one such heatsink, a 1.2kg beast with two fans. [H]ard|OCP's testing shows this cooler to be capable of cooling your 1950X at stock speeds, but do not expect the overclocks an AiO watercooler allows. The installation is a bit of a challenge but this is the least expensive cooler for Threadripper, as well as being the only air cooler for it from CM. Check the full review to get a closer look at this large chunk of metal.
"The AMD Ryzen Threadripper is a beast when it comes to overclocking and cooling. Cooler Master steps into the ring with the first Threadripper-specific air cooler that we have come across. We have put it through the paces here on our highly overclocked and overvolted 1950X. Does the MasterAir MA621P have what it takes?"
Here are some more Cases & Cooling reviews from around the web:
- Noctua NH-L12S @ Modders Inc
- Aerocool's P7-L240 closed-loop liquid CPU cooler @ The Tech Report
- Enermax Liqtech TR4 280 AIO @ Modders-Inc
- NZXT Kraken X72 @ Guru of 3D
- Phanteks Glacier R160 Reservoir @ TechPowerUp
- Corsair Carbide 275R @ Benchmark Reviews
- Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic @ TechPowerUp
- VIVO CASE-V10G Review @ OCC
- Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic chassis @ Guru of 3D
Subject: Cases and Cooling, Processors | March 9, 2018 - 02:45 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, Threadripper, tim, ryzen
If you are looking for advice on how to install and cool a Threadripper. [H]ard|OCP have quickly become the site to reference. They've benchmarked the majority of waterblocks which are compatible with AMD's big chip as well as publishing videos on how to install it on your motherboard. Today the chip is out again, this time it is getting a manually applied TIM facial. Check out Kyle's tips on getting ready to coat your chip and the best way to spread the TIM to ensure even cooling.
"AMD's Threadripper has shown to be a very different CPU in all sorts of ways and this includes how you install the Thermal Interface Material as well should you be pushing your Threadripper's clocks beyond factory defaults. We show you what techniques we have found to give us the best temperatures when overclocking. "
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- How To Install the AMD Threadripper CPU @ [H]ard|OCP
- AMD Ryzen 3 2200G & Ryzen 5 2400G APU Review @ Neoseeker
- The AMD Ryzen 3 2200G With Radeon Vega 8 @ TechARP
- AMD Ryzen 3 2200G + Ryzen 5 2400G Linux CPU Performance, 21-Way Intel/AMD Comparison @ Phoronix
- The AMD Ryzen 5 2400G With Radeon RX Vega 11 @ TechARP
- AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Linux Gaming Benchmarks @ Phoronix
Subject: Systems | March 2, 2018 - 04:28 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: Chillblast, Threadripper, gtx 1080 ti, amd, Fusion Centauri
Are you the type of person that is always running low on threads, PCIe lanes and VRAM? Then Chillblast has a system for you! Inside is a watercooled Threadripper 1950X, 64GB of DDR4-2666, two watercooled ASUS GTX 1080 Ti's, a 1TB Samsung 960 PRO M.2 for your systems and a wee little 10TB Seagate Barracuda HDD for storage. Sure it will run you about £7,500, or just a hair over $10,000USD, but if you want to play all the things in 4k you need to spend a bit of cash. Check out Kitguru's full review here.
"The new Threadripper processors from AMD already push the envelope when it comes to multi-threaded performance, and the Chillblast Fusion Centauri Ryzen Threadripper Ultimate takes the red team’s fantastic hardware and pairs it with a stupendous, eye-catching build"
Here are some more Systems articles from around the web:
- Overclockers UK Cobalt Overclocked Gaming PC Review – 8350K & GTX 1060 @ KitGuru
- iMac Pro review: Hard to upgrade, but holy Jony Ive it’s fast @ Ars Technica
- Axiom TS Mini PC with Raven Ridge @ Modders-Inc
- PCSpecialist Vulcan Pro @ Kitguru
- Budget Overclocking Guide: Ryzen 3 2200G @ TechSpot
- Intel Atom C3950 + Tyan Tempest S3227 @ Phoronix
- ECS Liva Q Pocket Size PC @ Guru of 3D
- ECS LIVA Q @ TechPowerUp
Subject: Motherboards | February 28, 2018 - 06:19 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: X399, Threadripper, ROG STRIX X399-E GAMING, asus, amd
ASUS' ROG STRIX X399-E Gaming motherboard for Threadripper offers a less expensive alternative to some of their higher end boards; however the $350 price tag is still a little steep. You still get a wide variety of internal and external connections, but there is no DIMM.2 adapter for an additional M.2 drive and [H]ard|OCP found the PCB to be flimsy enough that they popped out a standoff on one of the installed heatsinks due to that flexibility. The layout of the board was lauded as was the overall performance, so if you are looking to build a Threadripper system for a little less then this is a board worth investigating.
"The ROG STRIX X399-E Gaming promises to be a lower cost options for AMD’s Threadripper processors. This is a "less is more" approach to motherboard design than the exquisite and expensive ROG Zenith Extreme. The ROG brand has always been a premium brand. With these lower cost STRIX boards, does this remain true? "
Here are some more Motherboard articles from around the web:
- Gigabyte X299 Aorus Gaming 7 PRO @ Guru of 3D
- MSI X299M Gaming Pro Carbon AC @ KitGuru
- ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-I Gaming @ [H]ard|OCP
- ECS Z370-Lightsaber @ TechPowerUp
- Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming K3 @ Guru of 3D
- ASUS MAXIMUS IX CODE @ TechPowerUp
- Asus Maximus IX Extreme – with Bitspower monoblock @ Kitguru
- Don't Bother with A320 Motherboards, Go for AMD's B350 Instead for Raven Ridge @ TechSpot
Subject: Cases and Cooling | February 23, 2018 - 01:49 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: water cooler, Threadripper, HEATKILLER IV Pro, amd
You may not see WaterCool.de mentioned frequently in reviews unless you are deeply into watercooling. They have been producing impressive products for quite a while now and the HEATKILLER IV Pro is no exception. [H]ard|OCP's tests showed it to be equal in performance to the best they have seen. If you don't like the clear look of the cooler [H] reviewed the waterblock also comes in copper and copper with nickel plating as well. See the cooler in action here.
"WaterCool.de does not mess around when it comes to water cooling enthusiasts computers for well over a decade now. Many of us have been waiting with bated breath for Watercool's entry into the Threadripper cooling market, and it finally is with the HEATKILLER IV Pro. We compare it to five other water blocks."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- GamerStorm Baronkase Liquid @ TechPowerUp
- Alphacool Eiskoffer Professional Overview @ TechPowerUp
- Silverstone Tundra TD03-SLIM @ TechPowerUp
- EK-MLC Phoenix 360 AIO CPU and GPU (Radeon Vega) Liquid Cooling @ Guru of 3D
- be quiet! Shadow Rock TF 2 CPU Cooler @ Guru of 3D
- DeepCool MF120 Frameless RGB Fan w/ WIFI controller @ Guru of 3D
- Corsair Obsidian 500D @ Guru of 3D
- Corsair Obsidian Series 500D @ Techspot
- Corsair Obsidian 500D @ Kitguru
- Corsair Obsidian 500D @ TechPowerUp
- Cooler Master MasterBox Q300P @ Modders-Inc
- FSP CMT510 @ TechPowerUp
- Raijintek THETIS Window Aluminium Case @t Modders-Inc
- Antec Performance Series P110 Luce Mid-Tower Review @ NikKTech
- Cougar Panzer-G @ Modders Inc
Subject: General Tech | February 2, 2018 - 02:50 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: cryptocurrency, amd, Threadripper, 1950x
For the next little while at least, you should be able to pay off the purchase of a Threadripper 1950X by mining with it. [H]ard|OCP did some testing using Monero and found that Threadripper is quite efficient at mining. When mining full tilt the system, including a GTX 1080, used only 335W which could keep your energy bill somewhat lower than alternative systems. Of course, with Bitcoin's value wobbling drunkenly might want to move quickly ... or skip it altogether.
"If you could have your AMD Ryzen Threadripper pay for itself over time, would you? No matter your feelings towards cryptocurrency mining, you can get your Threadripper mining today, and paying for itself. The process could not be much easier either. The big kicker is the actual wattage load on your system is likely much less than you would guess."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Firefox 59 Will Stop Websites Snooping on Where You've Just Been @ Slashdot
- Surface Pro 4 users are reporting a 'flickering screen' issue @ The Inquirer
- Microsoft adds new, cheaper versions of the Surface Laptop and Surface Book 2 @ Ars Technica
- Adobe acknowledges Flash zero-day that's been exploited since November @ The Inquirer
- Qualglumm: Still no royalties from Apple, tax hits, EU fine, flat sales @ The Register
- Microsoft confirms Office 2019 will be for Windows 10 only @ The Inquirer
- YouTube TV subscribers can now watch live TV on Apple TV, Roku devices @ Ars Technica
- Intel tipped to release augmented reality specs this year @ The Inquirer