Subject: Cases and Cooling | February 21, 2019 - 11:36 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: tr4, tower cooler, Threadripper, passive cooling, arctic cooling, arctic, amd, air cooling
Arctic (ARCTIC) is reportedly working on a new air cooler for the AMD Threadripper / TR4 platform according to AnandTech who spotted a prototype on display during a gaming convention in Germany. The currently named "Freezer 50 TR" is a massive dual tower air cooler wrapped in a black shroud (with integrated addressable RGB lighting) and outfitted with two 140mm fans.
AnandTech spotted Arctic's prototype 0dB Freezer 50 TR air cooler.
Arctic claims that the Freezer 50 TR is a semi-passive cooler that hits 0dB under light loads as the dual fans stop spinning when the PWM signal gets below 5%. The company has not released the maximum noise levels or fan speeds though. Further, the company is not yet talking TDPs as the cooler is still a prototype, but with the massive air cooler having two large aluminum fin stacks and eight direct contact nickel-plated heat-pipes it should handle Threadripper without issue (though what noise levels will have to be is still a concern).
Looking on Arctic's website, the new Freezer 50 TR looks to fill in a large gap in their TR4 cooler lineup between the $48 Freezer 33 TR single tower cooler (up to 200W) and the $75 Liquid Freezer 120 all-in-one liquid cooler with 120mm radiator (250W). From there, Arctic offers a $85 240mm and a $120 360mm cooler. For enthusiasts wanting air cooling with more stable temperatures under load and maybe a bit of overclocking room, the Freezer 50 TR may be the option they are looking for. I would guess that the Freezer 50 TR will likely be priced somewhere around or just above the 120mm liquid cooler.
I agree with Mr. Shilov (AnandTech) that a Computex launch is likely for the new cooler which would place it just in time for AMD's new Zen 2-based chips which may include an announcement of or at least information on new Threadripper 3 parts (though actual shipping chips may not be until the fall) if the rumors hold true. Threadripper and Threadripper 2 should be supported, but whether it will be enough to cool Threadripper 3 processors which may well ratchet up the core count again (if 64-core 7nm EPYC parts are any indication) is still unknown.
In any event, more air cooler options for Threadripper is a great thing as there are not nearly as many options for TR4 as there are for Ryzen and other consumer-level AMD (AM4) and Intel (115x) sockets! Water cooling may well be your best bet with Threadripper and other HEDT parts, especially when overclocking, but I am interested to see how well the Freezer 50 TR does in reviews!
- Computex 2018: AMD and Cooler Master Unveil Wraith Ripper Air Cooler For Threadripper Processors
- The one, the only, Cooler Master's MASTERAIR MA621P air cooler for Threadripper
- The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2920X and 2970WX Review
Subject: General Tech | January 17, 2019 - 07:02 AM | Jim Tanous
Tagged: video, Threadripper, podcast, Optane, micron, Intel, hyperx, g-sync compatibility, g-sync, freesync, cortana, 3dmark
PC Perspective Podcast #529 - 1/16/2019
This week on the show, we look at a review of a new wireless gaming headset from HyperX, talk about the new G-SYNC Compatibility program for FreeSync monitors, look at ray tracing performance in the new 3DMark Port Royal benchmark, and more!
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21:35 - News: Intel-Micron 3D XPoint Split
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29:38 - News: 3DMark Port Royal Ray Tracing Benchmark
35:53 - Picks of the Week
46:24 - Outro
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Subject: General Tech | January 15, 2019 - 02:57 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, NUMA, Threadripper, numa dissociator, coreprio
With Threadripper, AMD introduced something new and different to the market, a HEDT architecture with nonuniform memory access. This has met with mixed results, as is reasonable to expect from such a different chip design. There has not been much out of Redmond to adapt Windows to handle this new design compared to the amount of work coming out of the enthusiast community, especially those using Linux.
Phoronix has recently benchmarked a piece of software from CorePrio called NUMA Dissociater on both Windows and Linux. It was designed to better address some performance issues on the Threadripper 2990WX and 2970WX than AMD's Dynamic Local Mode which can be enabled if you run their Ryzen Master software. As you can see in the full review the results are not earth shattering, nor do they always increase performance, but the foundation for improvement is fairly solid.
"Here are some benchmarks of Windows 10 against Linux while trying out CorePrio's NUMA Dissociater mode to see how much it helps the performance compared to Ubuntu Linux. Additionally, tests are included of Windows Server 2019 to see if that server edition of Windows is able to offer better performance on this AMD HEDT NUMA platform."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- Intel Core i5-9600K @ TechPowerUp
- Windows Server 2019 Performance Benchmarked Against Linux On An Intel Xeon Server @ Phoronix
Subject: Memory | January 14, 2019 - 02:51 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: G.Skill, ddr4-3466, X399, Threadripper, amd, RGB, TZRX
Threadripper's architecture loves high frequency RAM, though it can be a bit picky at times and you will have a far better experience sticking with vaildated RAM ... though you certainly don't have to.
G.Skill have just announced a 32GB kit of four DDR4-3466 modules, with timings of 18-22-22-42 and plenty of RGBs. On the Threadripper 2950X system they used as an example, the DIMMs were perfectly happy running at the default of 1.3V. They will be available relatively soon and you will be able to spot them thanks to the TZRX branding they will sport.
Subject: Systems | January 7, 2019 - 05:43 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: Threadripper, 2950x, MEG X399 Creation
If you haven't seen a Threadripper in person, or are just looking to sit back and enjoy watching someone set up a system then head over to [H]ard|OCP. They've just posted a video showing the construction of a Threadripper 2950X on a MEG X399 Creation motherboard. For those who haven't built a system recently or who are just curious how the pros do it this is a hour well spent.
"Building a new computer for yourself is always fun. We had the chance to do it ourselves recently, and we decided to document the entire process on video. We use the MSI MEG X399 Creation motherboard and the MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk as the backbone of our system along with an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X."
Here are some more Systems articles from around the web:
- MSI Trident X @ Kitguru
- A Look At Intel Core i9-9900K Workstation & Gaming Performance @ Techgage
- Corsair Vengeance 5180 Gaming PC @ TechPowerUp
Subject: Processors | November 13, 2018 - 03:36 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: x299, Threadripper, skylake-x, Intel, i9-9980XE, i9-7980XE, HEDT, core x, amd, 2990wx
The new ~$2000 i9-9980XE is a refreshed Skylake chip, using Intel's 14-nm++ process, with 18 multithreaded cores running at 3GHz with a Boost clock of 4.4GHz. If you were to lift up the lid, you would find the same Solder Thermal Interface Material we saw in the last few releases so expect some brave soul to run delidding tests at some point in the near future. As it stands now, The Tech Report's overclocking tests had the same results as Ken, with 4.5GHz across all cores being the best they could manage. While the chip does offer new features, many of them are aimed specifically at production tasks and will not benefit your gaming experience.
Check out the performance results here and below the fold.
"Intel is bolstering its Core X high-end desktop CPUs with everything in its bag of tricks, including 14-nm++ process technology, higher clock speeds, larger caches, and solder thermal interface material. We put the Core i9-9980XE to the test to see how those refinements add up against AMD's high-end desktop onslaught."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- Intel Core i9-9980XE vs AMD Ryzen Threadripper @ [H]ard|OCP
- Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition Processor Review @ Legit Reviews
- Intel Core i9-9900K @ Techspot
- Raptor Talos II POWER9 Benchmarks Against AMD Threadripper & Intel Core i9 @ Phoronix
- The Best Entry Level Gaming CPU: Athlon 200GE vs. Pentium G5400 vs. Ryzen 3 2200G @ Techspot
Shopping for a CPU in 2018 has been a bit of a moving target. Between the launch of AMD's Ryzen 2000 series processors in the beginning of the year, new AMD Threadripper X and WX-series products, and a consumer CPU refresh from Intel last month, it's been difficult to keep track of.
Now we are rounding out 2018 with new products for the last remaining platform that hasn't seen a refresh this year, Intel's Core X-series of processors, namely the Intel Core i9-9980XE.
Join us, as we talk about Intel's new 9th-generation Core X-series processors, and the current landscape of HEDT desktop platforms.
|Core i9-9980XE||Core i9-7980XE||Threadripper 2990WX||Threadripper 2970WX||Threadripper 2950X||Threadripper 2920X|
|Base Clock||3.0 GHz||2.6 GHz||3.0 GHz||3.0 GHz||3.5 GHz||3.5 GHz|
|Boost Clock||4.4 GHz||4.2 GHz||4.2 GHz||4.2 GHz||4.4 GHz||4.3 GHz|
|L3 Cache||24.75MB||24.75MB||64MB||64MB||32MB||32 MB|
|Memory Support||DDR4-2666 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2666 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)|
|TDP||165 Watts||165 Watts||250 Watts||250 Watts||180 Watts||180 Watts|
Subject: General Tech | November 1, 2018 - 02:46 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: Threadripper, ssd, podcast, MyDigitalSSD, BPX Pro, 2970wx, 2920x
PC Perspective Podcast #520 - 11/01/18
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A quick refresher and Dynamic Local Mode
In general, the rollout of AMD's second-generation Ryzen Threadripper processors has been a bit unconventional. While the full lineup was announced back in August, there has been a staggered release period.
Later in August, we first got our hands on the Threadripper 2950X and 2990WX, the 16 and 32-core variants. Even though both of these parts were reviewed at the same time, the 2990WX was available first, with the 2950X coming a few weeks later.
Now more than two months later, we are taking a look at the 12-core Threadripper 2920X and the 24-core Threadripper 2970WX which were announced alongside the Threadipper parts that have already been shipping for quite a while now.
Will these new Threadripper processors be worth the wait?
|Threadripper 2990WX||Threadripper 2970WX||Threadripper 2950X||Threadripper 2920X||Core i9-7980XE||Core i9-9900K|
|Architecture||Zen+||Zen+||Zen+||Zen+||Skylake-X||Coffee Lake Refresh|
|Base Clock||3.0 GHz||3.0 GHz||3.5 GHz||3.5 GHz||2.6 GHz||3.6 GHz|
|Boost Clock||4.2 GHz||4.2 GHz||4.4 GHz||4.3 GHz||4.2 GHz||5.0 GHz|
|L3 Cache||64MB||64MB||32MB||32 MB||24.75MB||16MB|
|Memory Support||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2666 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2666 (Dual-Channel)|
|TDP||250 Watts||250 Watts||180 Watts||180 Watts||165 Watts||95 Watts|
|Price (MSRP)||$1799||$1299||$899||$649||$1999||$499 MSRP ($580 street)|
Subject: Processors | October 26, 2018 - 05:48 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: Intel, and, ryzen, Threadripper, HEDT, coffee lake
The Tech Report took a look at the current market and are now offering their opinion on which ones you should consider. The question is more complicated than simply buying the most expensive AMD or Intel processor you can afford; not many of your games are CPU limited and even those that are will see more benefit if you switch the API being used. Read on for a variety of suggestions at various price points as well as why picking up a top end processor might actually give you less performance.
"Choosing a CPU for a gaming PC can be a daunting task, but it doesn't have to be. We walk you through the types of gaming experiences where CPUs matter and where they don't, and we pick chips for every budget that make the most of today's powerful graphics cards."
Here are some more Cases & Cooling reviews from around the web:
- Intel Core i7-9700K @ TechPowerUp
- The Performance & Power Efficiency Of The Core i7 990X vs. Core i9 9900K @ Phoronix
- Checking in on Intel's Core i7-5775C for gaming in 2018 @ The Tech Report
- Ryzen 5 2600X @ OCC
- AMD Ryzen 5 2600 – Does AMD Have an Underrated Gaming Beast? @ Bjorn3d