Subject: General Tech | January 9, 2019 - 03:50 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: gaming, battlefield V, ray tracing, RTX 2080, RTX 2070
[H]ard|OCP have been spending a lot of time with Battlefield V, determining the effect of enabling ray tracing on performance. In their latest look, they compare the effect of running the game on an i9-9700K running at 4.6GHz versus an i7-7700K at 5GHz. Their results are quite clear, when testing they saw a performance difference between 1-1.5 fps; well within the margin of error.
When it comes to BFV, your CPU is not the limiter on your performance.
"We have been doing some deep dives into playing Battlefield V 64-person multiplayer lately and testing what exactly the cost of using NVIDIA Ray Tracing is in terms of framerate performance using new NVIDIA RTX 2070 and RTX 2080 cards. We did get questioned on using a 5GHz overclocked 7700K instead of the suggested CPU that EA recommends."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Sonic Mania co-dev pitched a new Darkwing Duck, and you can play it @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- OCC Reviews Sunset Overdrive
- Star Control: Origins removed from sale as legal battle continues @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- Humble Stardock Bundle
- Fallout 3 remake mod Capital Wasteland uncancelled @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
Subject: Graphics Cards | January 7, 2019 - 02:46 AM | Jim Tanous
Tagged: rtx mobile, RTX 2080, RTX 2070, RTX 2060, rtx, nvidia, max-q, gaming laptop, ces2019
NVIDIA just wrapped up its CES keynote, and in addition to the expected unveiling of the RTX 2060, the company announced new mobile GeForce RTX options. More than 40 upcoming laptops, including 17 sporting NVIDIA’s Max-Q design, will offer RTX 2080, RTX 2070, and RTX 2060 graphics options.
NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang likened GeForce RTX-powered laptops to a gaming console platform, pointing out multiple times performance comparisons to traditional game consoles like the PlayStation 4.
Laptops are the fastest growing gaming platform — and just getting started. The world’s top OEMs are using Turing to bring next-generation console performance to thin, sleek laptops that gamers can take anywhere. Hundreds of millions of people worldwide — an entire generation — are growing up gaming. I can’t wait for them to experience this new wave of laptops.
New GeForce RTX laptops will continue to support features like WhisperMode, which paces frame rates for AC-connected laptops to reduce heat and therefore fan noise, NVIDIA Battery Boost, which uses GeForce Experience to optimize performance for longer battery life, and of course G-SYNC.
Beyond gaming, NVIDIA is touting the benefits of the RTX platform for content creators, such as real-time video encoding for live streamers, faster rendering for video editors, and accurate interactive lighting, reflections, and shadows for animators.
Laptops sporting GeForce RTX cards will be available starting January 29th from NVIDIA partners including Acer, Alienware, ASUS, Dell, Gigabyte, HP, Lenovo, MSI, Razer, and Samsung. Pricing, detailed configuration options, and exact availability will vary and is not yet available for all manufacturers.
Subject: Graphics Cards, Mobile | December 12, 2018 - 10:04 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: turing, rumor, RTX 2070, RTX 2060, nvidia
Rumors have appeared online that suggest NVIDIA may be launching mobile versions of its RTX 2070 and RTX 2060 GPUs based on its new Turing architecture. The new RTX 2070 and RTX 2060 with Max-Q designs were leaked by Twitter user TUM_APISAK who posted cropped screenshots of Geekbench 4.3.1 and 3DMark 11 Performance results.
Allegedly handling the graphics duties in a Lenovo 81HE, the GeForce RTX 2070 with Max-Q Design (8GB VRAM) combined with a Core i7-8750H Coffee Lake six core CPU and 32 GB system memory managed a Geekbench 4.3.1 score of 223,753. The GPU supposedly has 36 Compute Units (CUs) and a core clockspeed of 1,300 MHz. The desktop RTX 2070 GPU which is already available also has 36 CUs with 2,304 CUDA cores, 144 texture units, 64 ROPS, 288 Tensor cores, and 36 RT (ray tracing) cores. The desktop GPU has a 175W reference (non FE) TDP and clocks of 1410 MHz base and 1680 MHz boost (1710 MHz for Founder's Edition). Assuming that 36 CU number is accurate, the mobile (RTX 2070M) may well have the same core counts, just running at lower clocks which would be nice to see but would require a beefy mobile cooling solution.
As far as the RTX 2060 Max-Q Design graphics processor, not as much information was leaked as far as specifications as the leak was limited to two screenshots allegedly from Final Fantasy XV's benchmark results page comparing a desktop RTX 2060 with a Max-Q RTX 2060. The number of CUs (and other numbers like CUDA/Tensor/RT cores, TMUs, and ROPs) was not revealed in those screenshots, for example. The comparison does lend further credence to the rumors of the RTX 2060 utilizing 6 GB of GDDR6 memory though. Tom's Hardware does have a screenshot that shows the RTX 2060 with 30 CUs which suggest 1,920 CUDA cores, 240 Tensor cores, and 30 RT cores though with clocks up to 1.2 GHz (which does mesh well with previous rumors of the desktop part).
|Graphics Card||Generic VGA||Generic VGA|
|Memory||6144 MB||6144 MB|
|Core clock||960 MHz||975 MHz|
|Memory Clock||1750 MHz||1500 MHz|
|Driver name||NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060||NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 with Maz-Q Design|
Also, the TU106 RTX 2060 with Max-Q Design reportedly has a 975 MHz core clock and a 1500 MHz (6 GHz) memory clock. Note that the 960 MHz core clock and 1750 MHz (7 GHz) memory clocks don't match previous RTX 2060 rumors which suggested higher GPU clocks in particular (up to 1.2 GHz). To be fair, it could just be the software reporting incorrect numbers due to the GPUs not being official yet. One final bit of leaked information included a note about 3DMark 11 performance with the RTX 2060 Max Q Design GPU hitting at least 19,000 in the benchmark's Performance preset which allegedly puts it in between the scores of the mobile GTX 1070 and the mobile GTX 1070 Max-Q. (A graphics score between nineteen and twenty thousand would put it a bit above a desktop GTX 1060 but far below the desktop 1070).
As usual, take these rumors and leaked screenshots with a healthy heaping of salt, but they are interesting nonetheless. Combined with the news about NVIDIA possibly announcing new mid-range GPUs at CES 2019, we may well see new laptops and other mobile graphics solutions shown off at CES and available within the first half of 2019 which would be quite the coup.
What are your thoughts on the rumored RTX 2060 for desktops and its mobile RTX 2060 and RTX 2070 Max-Q siblings?
Subject: Graphics Cards | October 23, 2018 - 12:50 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: RTX 2070, RTX 2080, gtx 1080 ti, gtx 1070
[H]ard|OCP is pitting the newly arrived RTX gang against the incumbent GTX crew in their latest GPU review. They were specifically looking at how the RTX 2070 fares against its brethren, but took a look at the whole pack as well. Their findings bore a resemblance to Ken's, the performance trends between an overclocked GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti but the asking price for the Founders Edition is too high.
"We took our world exclusive non-NDA RTX 2070 review and compared that card directly to the GTX 1080 Ti and GTX 1070 cards, both overclocked. Thrown into the mix is the RTX 2080. Our real world gameplay will fully expose the landscape of rasterized gaming and what you should be considering purchasing, if anything for your gaming needs."
Here are some more Graphics Card articles from around the web:
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Linux Gaming Benchmarks @ Phoronix
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Founders Edition @ TechPowerUp
- The Founders Edition of the RTX 2070 vs. the EVGA RTX 2070 Black with 38 games @ BabelTechReviews
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 MSI Armor @ Guru of 3D
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 ASUS Turbo @ Guru of 3D
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 OpenCL, CUDA, TensorFlow GPU Compute Benchmarks @ Phoronix
- EKWB Velocity CPU and Vector GPU Water Block Preview @ Modders-Inc
Subject: General Tech | October 18, 2018 - 11:06 AM | Ken Addison
Tagged: rtx 2070 black edition, rtx 2070 armor, RTX 2070, podcast, nvidia, Neoverse, msi, evga, arm
PC Perspective Podcast #518 - 10/18/18
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With the launch of the GeForce RTX 2070, NVIDIA seems to have applied some pressure to their partners to get SKUs that actually hit the advertised "starting at $499" price. Compared to the $599 Founders Edition RTX 2070, these lower cost options have the potential to bring significantly more value to the consumer, especially taken into account the relative performance levels of the RTX 2070 to the GTX 1080 we observed in our initial review.
Earlier this week, we took a look at the EVGA RTX 2070 Black Edition, but it's not the only card to hit the $499 price range that we've received.
Today, we are taking a look at MSI's low-cost RTX 2070 offering, the MSI RTX 2070 Armor.
|MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8G|
|Base Clock Speed||1410 MHz|
|Boost Clock Speed||1620 MHz|
|Memory Clock Speed||14000 MHz GDDR6|
|Outputs||DisplayPort x 3(v1.4) / HDMI 2.0b x 1 / USB Type-C x1 (VirtualLink) /|
12.1 x 6.1 x 1.9 inches (309 x 155 x 50 mm)
Subject: Graphics Cards | October 16, 2018 - 02:37 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: tu106, TU104, RTX 2080, RTX 2070, GTX 1080, gtx 1070, msi, Gaming Z
Some of the RTX 2070 reviews have arrived though you can expect a slew more TU106 based GPU models arriving in the near future. The MSRP of this card is similar to the GTX 1080, so the burning question is; can it match the performance and not just mimic a slower card with the addition of Tensor Cores?
Start out with Ken's review, and then head off to [H]ard|OCP to check out the RTX 2070 GAMING Z from MSI. Does it make sense to pick up the RTX 2070 right now, or grab a highly overclocked GTX 1080? Only one way to find out!
"We have an exclusive first look at performance of the new MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z video cards sporting the new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 GPU. We will be comparing performance to a MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X and ASUS ROG STRIX Vega 64 OC video cards in eight games at 1440p and 4K."
Here are some more Graphics Card articles from around the web:
- MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Armor OC Review @ Neoseeker
- MSI RTX 2070 Gaming Z 8GB @ Kitguru
- EVGA RTX 2070 Black @ BabelTechReviews
- Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 @ Techspot
- MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Armor 8G OC Review @ OCC
- Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP 11 GB @ TechPowerUp
- AMD Radeon Pro WX 8200 Professional Graphics Card @ Kitguru
TU106 joins the party
In general, the launch of RTX 20-series GPUs from NVIDIA in the form of the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti has been a bit of a mixed bag.
While these new products did give us the fastest gaming GPU available, the RTX 2080 Ti, they are also some of the most expensive videos cards ever to launch. With a value proposition that is partially tied to the adoption of new hardware features into games, the reception of these new RTX cards has been rocky.
To say this puts a bit of pressure on the RTX 2070 launch would be an apt assessment. The community wants to see a reason to get excited for new graphics cards, without having to wait for applications to take advantage of the new hardware features like Tensor and RT cores. Conversely, NVIDIA would surely love to see an RTX launch with a bit more praise from the press and community than their previous release has garnered.
The wait is no longer, today we are taking a look at the RTX 2070, the last of the RTX-series graphics cards announced by NVIDIA back in August.
|RTX 2080 Ti||GTX 1080 Ti||RTX 2080||RTX 2070||GTX 1080||GTX 1070||RX Vega 64 (Air)|
|Base Clock||1350 MHz||1408 MHz||1515 MHz||1410 MHz||1607 MHz||1506 MHz||1247 MHz|
|Boost Clock||1545 MHz/
1635 MHz (FE)
|1582 MHz||1710 MHz/
1800 MHz (FE)
|1620 MHz/ 1710 MHz (FE)||1733 MHz||1683 MHz||1546 MHz|
|Ray Tracing Speed||10 GRays/s||--||8 GRays/s||6 GRays/s||--||--||--|
|Memory Clock||14000 MHz||11000 MHz||14000 MHz||14000 MHz||10000 MHz||8000 MHz||1890 MHz|
|Memory Interface||352-bit G6||352-bit G5X||256-bit G6||256-bit G6||256-bit G5X||256-bit G5||2048-bit HBM2|
|Memory Bandwidth||616GB/s||484 GB/s||448 GB/s||448 GB/s||320 GB/s||256 GB/s||484 GB/s|
|TDP||250 W /
260 W (FE)
|250 W||215W /
|175 W / 185W (FE)||180 W||150 W||292 W|
|Peak Compute (FP32)||13.4 TFLOPS / 14.2 TFLOP (FE)||10.6 TFLOPS||10 TFLOPS / 10.6 TFLOPS (FE)||7.5 TFLOPS / 7.9 TFLOPS (FE)||8.2 TFLOPS||6.5 TFLOPS||13.7 TFLOPS|
|Transistor Count||18.6 B||12.0 B||13.6 B||10.8 B||7.2 B||7.2B||12.5 B|
|MSRP (current)||$1200 (FE)/
|$599 (FE)/ $499||$549||$379||$499|
Subject: Graphics Cards | August 20, 2018 - 01:58 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: turing, tensor cores, rtx 2080ti, RTX 2080, RTX 2070, rtx, rt cores, ray tracing, quadro, preorder, nvidia, gtx, geforce
* Update *
NVIDIA's pre-order page is now live, as well as info on the RTX 2070! Details below:
*Update 2 *
Post-Founders Edition pricing comes in a bit lower than the Founders pricing noted above:
* End update *
Just like we saw with the Quadro RTX lineup, NVIDIA is designating these gaming-oriented graphics card with the RTX brand to emphasize their capabilities with ray tracing.
Through the combination of dedicated Ray Tracing (RT) cores and Tensor cores for AI-powered denoising, NVIDIA is claiming these RTX GPUs are capable of high enough ray tracing performance to be used real-time in games, as shown by their demos of titles of Battlefield V, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and Metro: Exodus.
Not every GPU in NVIDIA's lineup will be capable of this real-time ray tracing performance, with those lower tier cards retaining the traditional GTX branding.
Here are the specifications as we know them so far compared to the Quadro RTX cards, as well as the previous generation GeForce cards, and the top offering from AMD.
|RTX 2080 Ti||Quadro RTX 6000||GTX 1080 Ti||RTX 2080||Quadro RTX 5000||GTX 1080||TITAN V||RX Vega 64 (Air)||RTX 2070|
|Base Clock||1350||?||1408 MHz||1515||?||1607 MHz||1200 MHz||1247 MHz||1410|
|?||1733 MHz||1455 MHz||1546 MHz||1620
|Ray Tracing Speed||10 GRays/s||10 GRays/s||--||8 GRays/s||6? GRays/s||--||--||--||6 GRays/s|
|Memory Clock||14000 MHz||14000 MHz||11000 MHz||14000 MHz||14000 MHz||10000 MHz||1700 MHz||1890 MHz||14000 MHz|
|Memory Interface||352-bit G6||384-bit G6||352-bit G5X||256-bit G6||256-bit G6||256-bit G5X||3072-bit HBM2||2048-bit HBM2||256-bit G6|
|Memory Bandwidth||616GB/s||672GB/s||484 GB/s||448 GB/s||448 GB/s||320 GB/s||653 GB/s||484 GB/s||448GB/s|
|300 watts||250 watts||215W
|Peak Compute||?||?||10.6 TFLOPS||?||?||8.2 TFLOPS||14.9 TFLOPS||13.7 TFLOPS||?|
|Transistor Count||?||?||12.0 B||?||?||7.2 B||21.0 B||12.5 B||?|
We hope to fill out the rest of the information on these GPUs in the coming days during subsequent press briefings during Gamescom.
One big change to the RTX lineup is NVIDIA's revised Founders Edition cards. Instead of the blower-style cooler that we've seen on every other NVIDIA reference design, the Founder's Edition RTX cards instead move to a dual-axial fan setup, similar to 3rd party designs in the past.
These new GPUs do not come cheaply, however, with an increased MSRP across the entire lineup when compared to the 1000-series cards. The RTX 2080 Ti's MSRP of $1200 is an increase of $500 over the previous generation GTX 1080 Ti, while the GTX 2080 sports a $200 increase over the GTX 2080. These prices will come down after the Founders Edition wave pricing passes (the same was done with the GTX 10xx launches).
Both the Founder's Edition card from NVIDIA, as well as third-party designs from partners such as EVGA and ASUS, are available for preorder from retailers including Amazon and Newegg starting today and are set to ship on August 27th.