Subject: Graphics Cards | June 26, 2017 - 11:29 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: pascal, nvidia, nicehash, mining, gp106-100, gp104-100, cryptocurrency
In addion to the AMD-based mining graphics cards based on the RX 470 Polaris silicon that have appeared online, NVIDIA and its partners are launching cryptocurrency mining cards based on GP106 and GP104 GPUs. Devoid of any GeForce or GTX branding, these cost controlled cards focused on mining lack the usual array of display outputs and have much shorter warranties (rumors point at a 3 month warranty restriction imposed by NVIDIA). So far Asus, Colorful, EVGA, Inno3D, MSI, and Zotac "P106-100" cards based on GP106 (GTX 1060 equivalent) silicon have been spotted online with Manli and Palit reportedly also working on cards. Many of these manufacturers are also also planning "P104-100" cards based on GP104 or the GTX 1070 though much less information is available at the moment. Pricing is still up in the air but pre-orders are starting to pop up overseas so release dates and prices will hopefully become official soon.
These mining oriented cards appear to be equipped with heatsinks similar to their gaming oriented siblings, but have fans rated for 24/7 operation. Further, while the cards can be overclocked they are clocked out of the box at reference clock speeds and allegedly have bolstered power delivery hardware to keep the cards mining smoothly under 24/7 operation. The majority of cards from NVIDIA partners lack any display outputs (the Colorful card has a single DVI out) which helps a bit with ventilation by leaving both slots vented. These cards are intended to be run in headless system or with systems that also have graphics integrated into the CPU (miners not wanting to waste a PCI-E slot!).
|Base Clock||Boost Clock||Memory (Type)||Pricing|
|ASUS MINING-P106-6G||1506 MHz||1708 MHz||6 GB (GDDR5) @ 8 GHz||$226|
|Colorful P106-100 WK1/WK2||1506 MHz||1708 MHz||6GB (GDDR5) @ 8 GHz||?|
|EVGA GTX1060 6G P106||1506 MHz||1708 MHz||6GB (GDDR5) @ 8 GHz||$284?|
|Inno3D P106-100 Compact||1506 Mhz||1708 MHz||6GB (GDDR5) @ 8 GHz||?|
|Inno3D P106-100 Twin||1506 MHz||1708 MHz||6GB (GDDR5) @ 8 GHz||?|
|MSI P106-100 MINER||1506 MHz||1708 MHz||6GB (GDDR5) @ 8 GHz||$224|
|MSI P104-100 MINER||TDB||TBD||6GB (GDDR5X) @ ?||?|
|ZOTAC P106-100||1506 MHz||1708 MHz||6GB (GDDR5) @ 8 GHz||?|
Looking at the Nicehash Profitability Calculator, the GTX 1060 and GTX 1070 are rated at 20.13 MH/s and 28.69 MH/s at DaggerHashimoto (Etherium) mining respectively with many users able to get a good bit higher hash rates with a bit of overclocking (and in the case of AMD undervolting to optimize power efficiency). NVIDIA cards tend to be good for other algorithms as well such as ZCash and Libry and Equihash (at least those were the majority of coins my 750 Ti mined likely due to it not having the memory to attempt ETH mining heh). The calculator estimates these GPUs at 0.00098942 BTC per day and 0.00145567 BTC per day respectivey. If difficulty and exchange rate were to remains constant that amounts to an income of $1197.95 per year for a GP106 and $1791.73 per year for a GP104 GPU and ROI in under 3 months. Of course cryptocurrency to USD exchange rates will not remain constant, there are transactions and mining fees, and mining difficulty will rise as more hardware is added to the network as miners so these estimated numbers will be lower in reality. Also, these numbers are before electricity, maintainence time, and failed hardware costs, but currently mining alt coins is still very much profitable using graphics cards.
AMD and NVIDIA (and their AIB partners) are hoping to get in on this action with cards binned and tuned for mining and at their rumored prices placing them cheaper than their gaming focused RX and GTX variants miners are sure to scoop these cards up in huge batches (some of the above cards are only availabe in large orders). Hopefully this will alleviate the strain on the gaming graphics card market and bring prices back down closer to their original MSRPs for gamers!
- Mining specific cards are real - ASUS and Sapphire GP106 and RX 470 show up
- First look at Pascal-based GPU cryptocurrency mining station @ Videocardz
- ASUS, COLORFUL and MSI showcase their mining graphics cards @ Videocardz
- Riding the Crypto wave @ TechPowerUP Forums (links/info on mining cards collected here)
- Donate to the PC Perspective Mining Pool! A NiceHash How-to
- Let's Talk About Mining - Cryptocurrency Revisited
- Computex 2017: ASRock Launching H110 Pro BTC+ Motherboard With 13 PCI-E Slots
What are your thoughts on all this GPU mining and cryptocurrency / blockchain technology stuff?
Subject: Graphics Cards | May 23, 2017 - 03:58 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: ek cooling, pascal, nvidia, waterblock, GTX FE
The current series of EK Cooling waterblocks for Pascal based GPUs, up to and including the new Titan X are being replaced with a new family of coolers. The new GTX FE water blocks will be compatible with the previous generation of backplates, so you can do a partial upgrade or keep an eye out for discounts on the previous generation.
These new coolers will fit on any Founders Edition reference card, from GTX 1060's through to the Titan X, currently that count stands at 106 unique graphics cards so your card is likely to be compatible. You can choose between four models, a plain design, one with acetal, one with nickel and one with both acetal and nickel, whichever one you choose it will still run you 109.95€/$125USD
Full PR is below.
EK Water Blocks, the Slovenia-based premium computer liquid cooling gear manufacturer, is releasing several new EK-FC GeForce GTX FE water blocks that are compatible with multiple reference design Founders Edition NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 1060, 1070, 1080, 1080 Ti, Titan X Pascal and Titan Xp based graphics cards. All the water blocks feature recently introduced aesthetic terminal cover as well! FE blocks come as a replacement to current GeForce GTX 10x0 / TITAN X Series of water blocks.
All current GeForce GTX 10x0 / TITAN X Series of water blocks are going to be discontinued after the stock runs out and FE blocks come as a complete replacement. FE blocks are designed to fit all reference design Founders Edition NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, 1070, 1080, 1080 Ti, Titan X Pascal and Titan Xp based graphics cards. The current compatibility list rounds up a total of 106 graphics cards that are on the market, but as always, we recommend that you refer to the EK Cooling Configurator for a precise compatibility match.
The new EK-FC GeForce GTX FE water blocks are also backward compatible with all EK-FC1080 GTX Backplates, EK-FC1080 GTX Ti Backplates, and EK-FC Titan X Pascal Backplates.
Availability and pricing
These water blocks are made in Slovenia, Europe and are available for purchase through EK Webshop and Partner Reseller Network. In the table below you can see manufacturer suggested retail price (MSRP) with VAT included.
Subject: Graphics Cards | May 13, 2017 - 11:46 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: SFF, pascal, nvidia, Inno3D, GP107
Hong Kong based Inno3D recently introduced a single slot graphics card using NVIDIA’s mid-range GTX 1050 Ti GPU. The aptly named Inno3D GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (1-Slot Edition) combines the reference clocked Pascal GPU, 4GB of GDDR5 memory, and a shrouded single fan cooler clad in red and black.
Around back, the card offers three display outputs including a HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.4, and DVI-D. The single slot cooler is a bit of an odd design with an thin axial fan rather than a centrifugal type that sits over a fake plastic fin array. Note that these fins do not actually cool anything, in fact the PCB of the card does not even extend out to where the fan is; presumably the fins are there primarily for aesthetics and secondarily to channel a bit of the air the fan pulls down. Air is pulled in and pushed over the actual GPU heatsink (under the shroud) and out the vent holes next to the display connectors. Air is circulated through the case and is not actually exhausted like traditional dual slot (and some single slot) designs. I am curious how the choice of fan and vents will affect cooling performance.
Overclocking is going to be limited on this card, and it comes out-of-the-box clocked at NVIDIA reference speeds of 1290 MHz base and 1392 MHz boost for the GPU’s 768 cores and 7 GT/s for the 4GB of GDDR5 memory. The card measures 211 mm (~8.3”) long and should fit in just about any case. Since it pulls all of its power from the slot, it might be a good option for those slim towers OEMs like to use these days to get a bit of gaming out of a retail PC.
Inno3D is not yet talking availability or pricing, but looking at there existing lineup I would expect a MSRP around $150.
Subject: Graphics Cards | April 22, 2017 - 12:53 AM | Scott Michaud
Tagged: pascal, nvidia, gt 1030, gp108
Expreview.com (machine-translated from Chinese) believes that NVIDIA will launch the GeForce GT 1030 to compete in the low-end. It’s difficult to tell how confident they are about this next part, due to the translation, but they believe that it will be based on a new Pascal design, GP108, rather than a further-disabled GP107 (as seen in the GTX 1050 and GTX 1050 Ti). Those parts have 640 and 768 CUDA cores, respectively, which might be where their estimate of 512 CUDA cores for GP108 comes from.
As for the merits as a product, it seems a little odd to me. There is some room for it in terms of performance, sliding between the GTX 1050 and integrated graphics with a GTX 750-class part, just with higher clocks and/or lower power due to the Pascal architecture. It does seem risky, though, considering the GTX 1050 already occupies the $110 USD price point.
The post also suggests that the cards will have 1 GB and 2 GB variants.
Subject: Graphics Cards | April 6, 2017 - 01:13 PM | Scott Michaud
Tagged: titan xp, pascal, nvidia
While I realize that it’s the other way around if anything, part of me wants to believe that NVIDIA released this new graphics card, the TITAN Xp, solely to prevent people from calling last year’s Titan X “Titan XP”. Alternatively, they could be trolling everyone, but doing so with a legit product launch.
The NVIDIA TITAN Xp is, finally, a fully-unlocked GP102 for the consumer market, which was previously exclusive to the Tesla P40 and Quadro P6000 graphics cards. The extra 256 CUDA cores and slight bump in boost clocks equate to an expected 10.7% increase in boost shader capacity (12.15 TFLOPs vs 10.97 TFLOPs). Memory bandwidth, for its 12GB of GDDR5X, has also increase from 480 GB/s to 547.7 GB/s, which is a 14.1% increase.
NVIDIA's blog post also mentions that macOS drivers are coming this month.
The NVIDIA TITAN Xp is available now from NVIDIA’s website for $1200 USD. 2016’s NVIDIA Titan X is also listed at $1200, but is out of stock for some weird reason… hmm. It’s almost like they released an all-around better product at the same price point.
Subject: Editorial | April 6, 2017 - 12:57 AM | Alex Lustenberg
Tagged: Z270E, windows 10, relive, podcast, pascal, NVIDA, Mad Catz, Imagination Technologies, ddr5, asus, amd
PC Perspective Podcast #444 - 04/6/17
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Since the launch of NVIDIA's Pascal architecture with the GTX 1070 and 1080 last May, we've taken a look at a lot of Pascal-based products, including the recent launch of the GTX 1080 Ti. By now, it is clear that Pascal has proven itself in a gaming context.
One frequent request we get about GPU coverage is to look at professional uses cases for these sort of devices. While gaming is still far and away the most common use for GPUs, things like high-quality rendering in industries like architecture, and new industries like deep learning can see vast benefits from acceleration by GPUs.
Today, we are taking a look at some of the latest NVIDIA Quadro GPUs on the market, the Quadro P2000, P4000, and P5000.
Diving deep into the technical specs of these Pascal-based Quadro products and the AMD competitor we will be testing, we find a wide range of compute capability, power consumption, and price.
|Quadro P2000||Quadro P4000||Quadro P5000||Radeon Pro Duo|
|Code Name||GP106||GP104||GP104||Fiji XT x 2|
|Rated Clock Speed||1470 MHz (Boost)||1480 MHz (Boost)||1730 MHz (Boost)||up to 1000 MHz|
|Memory Width||160-bit||256-bit||256-bit||4096-bit (HBM) x 2|
|Compute Perf (FP32)||3.0 TFLOPS||5.3 TFLOPS||8.9 TFLOPS||16.38 TFLOPS|
|Compute Perf (FP64)||1/32 FP32||1/32 FP32||1/32 FP 32||1/16 FP32|
|Frame Buffer||5GB||8GB||16GB||8GB (4GB x 2)|
The astute readers will notice similarities to the NVIDIA GeForce line of products as they take a look at these specifications.
Subject: Graphics Cards | April 3, 2017 - 03:15 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: mad max, linux, kepler, maxwell, pascal, NVIDA, vulkan, opengl
With Vulkan support being added to Mad Max, at least in beta form, Phoronix decided to take advantage of the release to test the performance of a wide variety of NVIDIA cards on the API. They grabbed over a dozen cards encompassing three different architectures, from the GTX 680 through to the GTX 1080 Ti, so you get a very good look at the change in performance of NVIDIA on Vulkan. The results are clear, in every case Vulkan was superior to OpenGL and in many cases framerate more than doubled. Drop by for a look at what some predicted was a DOA API.
"Yesterday game porter firm Feral Interactive released a public beta of Mad Max that features a Vulkan renderer in place of its OpenGL API for graphics rendering on Linux. In addition to Radeon Vulkan numbers, I posted some NVIDIA Mad Max Linux benchmarks with both renderers. Those results were exciting on the few Pascal cards tested so I have now extended that comparison to feature a line-up of 14 NVIDIA GeForce graphics cards from Kepler, Maxwell, and Pascal families while looking at this game's OpenGL vs. Vulkan performance."
Here are some more Graphics Card articles from around the web:
- MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X 11 GB @ techPowerUp
- ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1080 Ti OC @ Kitguru
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti Founders Edition Review @ OCC
- The GTX 1080 Ti vs. The TITAN XP Overclocking Showdown @ BabelTechReviews
- ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1050 Ti OC 4GB @ Kitguru
Subject: Processors | March 14, 2017 - 03:17 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: nvidia, JetsonTX1, Denver, Cortex A57, pascal, SoC
Amongst the furor of the Ryzen launch the NVIDIA's new Jetson TX2 SoC was quietly sent out to reviewers and today the NDA expired so we can see how it performs. There are more Ryzen reviews below the fold, including Phoronix's Linux testing if you want to skip ahead. In addition to the specifications in the quote, you will find 8GB of 128-bit LPDDR4 offering memory bandwidth of 58.4 GB/s and 32GBs of eMMC for local storage. This Jetson is running JetPack 3.0 L4T based off of the Linux 4.4.15 kernel. Phoronix tested out its performance, see for yourself.
"Last week we got to tell you all about the new NVIDIA Jetson TX2 with its custom-designed 64-bit Denver 2 CPUs, four Cortex-A57 cores, and Pascal graphics with 256 CUDA cores. Today the Jetson TX2 is shipping and the embargo has expired for sharing performance metrics on the JTX2."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- Hands-On Nvidia Jetson TX2: Fast Processing for Embedded Devices @ Hack a Day
- AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Review; Testing SMT @ Hardware Canucks
- AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Linux Benchmarks: Great Multi-Core Performance For $329 @ Phoronix
Subject: General Tech, Processors | March 12, 2017 - 05:11 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: pascal, nvidia, machine learning, iot, Denver, Cortex A57, ai
Measuring 50mm x 87mm, the Jetson TX2 packs quite a bit of processing power and I/O including an SoC with two 64-bit Denver 2 cores with 2MB L2, four ARM Cortex A57 cores with 2MB L2, and a 256-core GPU based on NVIDIA’s Pascal architecture. The TX2 compute module also hosts 8 GB of LPDDR4 (58.3 GB/s) and 32 GB of eMMC storage (SDIO and SATA are also supported). As far as I/O, the Jetson TX2 uses a 400-pin connector to connect the compute module to the development board or final product and the final I/O available to users will depend on the product it is used in. The compute module supports up to the following though:
- 2 x DSI
- 2 x DP 1.2 / HDMI 2.0 / eDP 1.4
- USB 3.0
- USB 2.0
- 12 x CSI lanes for up to 6 cameras (2.5 GB/second/lane)
- PCI-E 2.0:
- One x4 + one x1 or two x1 + one x2
- Gigabit Ethernet
The Jetson TX2 runs the “Linux for Tegra” operating system. According to NVIDIA the Jetson TX2 can deliver up to twice the performance of the TX1 or up to twice the efficiency at 7.5 watts at the same performance.
The extra horsepower afforded by the faster CPU, updated GPU, and increased memory and memory bandwidth will reportedly enable smart end user devices with faster facial recognition, more accurate speech recognition, and smarter AI and machine learning tasks (e.g. personal assistant, smart street cameras, smarter home automation, et al). Bringing more power locally to these types of internet of things devices is a good thing as less reliance on the cloud potentially means more privacy (unfortunately there is not as much incentive for companies to make this type of product for the mass market but you could use the TX2 to build your own).
Cisco will reportedly use the Jetson TX2 to add facial and speech recognition to its Cisco Spark devices. In addition to the hardware, NVIDIA offers SDKs and tools as part of JetPack 3.0. The JetPack 3.0 toolkit includes Tensor-RT, cuDNN 5.1, VisionWorks 1.6, CUDA 8, and support and drivers for OpenGL 4.5, OpenGL ES 3 2, EGL 1.4, and Vulkan 1.0.
The TX2 will enable better, stronger, and faster (well I don't know about stronger heh) industrial control systems, robotics, home automation, embedded computers and kiosks, smart signage, security systems, and other connected IoT devices (that are for the love of all processing are hardened and secured so they aren't used as part of a botnet!).
Interested developers and makers can pre-order the Jetson TX2 Development Kit for $599 with a ship date for US and Europe of March 14 and other regions “in the coming weeks.” If you just want the compute module sans development board, it will be available later this quarter for $399 (in quantities of 1,000 or more). The previous generation Jetson TX1 Development Kit has also received a slight price cut to $499.