Subject: Graphics Cards | September 24, 2018 - 03:33 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: nvidia, overclocking, RTX 2080, turing
We don't know how many sales the new Turing-based GPUs NVIDIA has made but it certainly has generated a lot of reviews. [H]ard|OCP have been working hard on overclocking the Founders Edition RTX 2080 and recently published their findings. They tried three different methods; simply setting the fan to 100%, running NVIDIA's new scanner tool, which does not void your warranty, as well as a manual overclock. They ran into some issues with the scanner tool and limited success with only increasing the fan speed, unsurprisingly the manual OC provided the best results. That manual overclock managed to hit and maintain 2055MHz on the core, which some noticeable improvements.
"We finally got in the RTX 2080 video cards we purchased, and we have been putting those to good use. While Brent is banging out a real-world gameplay preview, I have been seeing just where our RTX 2080 Founders Edition ends up in terms of overclocking. We finally got a solid handle on what our particular Turing GPU and memory are capable of."
Here are some more Graphics Card articles from around the web:
- Weighing the trade-offs of Nvidia DLSS for image quality and performance @ The Tech Report
- ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080 Ti and 2080 1440p Preview @ [H]ard|OCP
- ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 STRIX OC 8G @ Guru of 3D
- Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Super Jetstream 8 GB @ TechPowerUp
- Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti Overclocking Guide @ Techspot
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti & RTX 2080 Review @ Neoseeker
- Ethereum Crypto Mining Performance Benchmarks On The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti @ Phoronix
Subject: Memory | September 17, 2018 - 02:49 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: T-Force VULCAN TUF, G.SKILL Flare X, ddr4-3200, AM4, amd, overclocking, x470
AMD processors like fast RAM, but [H]ard|OCP wanted to see if sacrificing timings for higher frequencies is the answer in all cases, or only some. To test this out they grabbed two 16GB kits of DDR4-3200, one T-Force Vulcan TUF and one G.SKILL Flare X. The Vulcan's base timings are 16-18-18-38 while the G.SKILL offer 14-14-14-34, both running at 1.35v. Take a look to see how these kits performed at their base settings as well as their top overclocks in the full review.
"We take a look at some of the new RAM available for the AMD Ryzen AM4 platform and see how well these work out when it comes to overclockability and timing tweaking. On the test bench today are the Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Alliance and G.SKILL Flare X Series RAM, both rated at 3200MHz."
Here are some more Memory articles from around the web:
- Team Group T-Force Vulcan Gaming SODIMM 4x 8 GB DDR4-2666 @ TechPowerUp
- Ballistix Sport AT Gaming DDR4-3000 (TUF Edition) @ TechPowerUp
- Ballistix Sport AT Gaming DDR4 RGB 32GB 3000 MHz @ Guru of 3D
- Team Group T-Force XCALIBUR RGB DDR4-3600 @ TechPowerUp
Subject: General Tech | August 16, 2018 - 02:28 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, threadripper 2, 2990wx, overclocking, LN2
The low cost workstation class 2990WX has been verified as running at 5.955GHz on an MSI MEG X399 Creation board, with the help of a lot of liquid nitrogen. The Inquirer has links to the setup that Indonesian overclocker Ivan Cupa needed in order to manage this feat, which required fans to cool certain portions of the motherboard as well. You are not likely to see this set up installed in a server room but the achievement is no less impressive as that is an incredible frequency to reach. Check it out in all it's glory.
"So far, it would seem that AMD is on top when it comes to willy-waving, though it's worth noting that overclocked performance is a tad nebulous and real-world in-app performance is really where choosing an Intel or AMD chip comes to play."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- TSMC sees pickup in orders for mining ASICs @ DigiTimes
- ARM takes aim at Intel with its laptop-class processor ambitions @ The Inquirer
- Foreshadow and Intel SGX software attestation: 'The whole trust model collapses' @ The Register
- Intel’s 10nm Cannon Lake chip gets another outing in new NUC mini PC @ Ars Technica
- IoT shouters Chirp get themselves added to Microsoft Azure IoT @ The Register
- What Are the Best CCleaner Alternatives? @ TechSpot
- Cougar Armor S Gaming Chair @ TechPowerUp
- NikKTech & 1MORE Feel The Sound European Giveaway
Subject: General Tech | June 11, 2018 - 11:25 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: Trident Z RGB, samsung b-die, overclocking, msi, LN2, liquid nitrogen, Intel, G.Skill, ddr4, computex 2018, computex
G.Skill held its annual extreme overclocking competitions (the OC World Cup Competition and OC World Record Stage) at Computex 2018 in Taipei where the overclockers managed to break 13 world records including the two highest DDR4 clockspeeds and the fastest Core i7-8700K clockspeed.
Overclocking teams from around the world using Intel processors, G.Skill DDR4 memory, and motherboards from MSI, EVGA, and ASRock along with extreme cooling methods (de-lidding and loads of LN2) were used to set the world records in 3DMark Fire Strike, SuperPi, Maxxmem, Geekbench 4, GPUPi for CPU, WPrime, and PiFast benchmarks along with hardware records of DDR4 5543 MHz and an Intel Core i7-8700K at 7409.03 MHz.
On the memory front, G.Skill notes that Toppc is now the world record holder with the DDR4-5543 MHz overclock achieved using an Intel i7-8700K, MSI Z370I Gaming Pro Carbon AC, and G.Skill Trident Z RGB memory. Following Toppc’s overclock Kovan Yang managed to achieve the second highest DDR4 clockspeed record at DDR4-5541 MHz on the MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon AC motherboard and Intel Core i7-7740X processor which is an interesting feat on the HEDT platform.
Other notable benchmark world records include a 3DMark Fire Strike Extreme Single score of 20,320 (i9-7980XE and EVGA X299 Dark platform), Geekbench4 Single Core score of 9842 points (i7-8700K on an ASRock Z170M OC Formula), WPRIME -32M score of 1.937 seconds, and a SuperPi 32M score of 4 minutes and 8.922 seconds.
Interestingly, G.Skill’s video coverage (embedded below) shows both manual full pot cooling as well as the automated Roboclocker LN2 cooler being used. The video jumps from scene to scene quickly but it does give you some glimpses at the process and the pots/heatsinks used with the RAM and processor to keep things cool even when cranking up the voltage and clocks!
- Computex 2018: CaseKing and Der8auer Debut Phase Shift Cooler AIO Prototype
- G.Skill Overclocks Dual Channel Trident Z RGB Memory to 5,000 MHz On Air Cooling
- ADATA Overclocks XPG Spectrix D41 RGB Memory to 5 GHz
- Extreme Overclockers Fill Coffee Lake With Liquid Nitrogen
Subject: General Tech, Processors | June 8, 2018 - 01:39 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: overclocking, Intel, i7-8086k, der8auer
Der8auer is at it again, this time pushing Intel's Anniversary Edition i7-8086K quickly passing 7GHz in initial overclocking, showing just how well picked these Core i7-8700K's are. He pushed the core voltage up past 1.85V and used an impressive amount of LN to accomplish this feat but he feels there is more to this processor. Having had more time to work on overclocking 8700K's he has successfully pushed them to 7.3GHz, so in theory the 8086K should be able to beat that. Take a look at the video posted on the Inquirer to see this happen.
"The processor, announced this week at Computex, commemorates 40 years of x86 computing and out of the box can hit 5GHz on a single core without overclocking via the chip's boost frequency."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Blockchain's Once-Feared 51% Attack Is Now Becoming Regular @ Slashdot
- Stop us if you've heard this one: Adobe Flash gets emergency patch for zero-day exploit @ The Register
- GitHub's Nat Friedman confirms no ads, no Microsoft logins, no worries @ The Inquirer
- Talkin’ Treble: How Android engineers are winning the war on fragmentation @ Ars Technica
- WannaCry reverse-engineer Marcus Hutchins hit with fresh charges @ The Register
Subject: General Tech, Cases and Cooling | June 5, 2018 - 07:42 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: phase change, overclocking, der8auer, computex 2018, computex, closed loop cooling
Famed overclocker Der8auer and Berlin-based online retailer CaseKing showed off a prototype phase change cooler at Computex 2018. The new cooler is a pressurized and closed system that places a block over the processor and uses a vertical tube to connect to a holding tank and a condenser that is cooled by a copper fin stack and two 90mm fans. While phase change cooling is nothing new, what is interesting about this prototype is that the team plans to bring what they call a Phase Shift Cooler to market as a commercial product like an AIO liquid cooler sometime before the end of the year.
The system uses a 3M Novec-like fluid (it is not Novec, however, according to Gamer's Nexus in speaking with CaseKing at Computex) with a low boiling point. The system is pressurized, and the boiling point can be changed by adjusting the pressure of the cooling “loop”. As the processor heats up, the liquid begins boiling off and gas rises up the tube to the condenser where it cools and changes back into a liquid which then flows back into the CPU block with the help of gravity (which does limit placement of the condenser to vertical case orientations above the CPU. The copper fins of the condenser plate are cooled using two fans that do not need to spin at high RPMs.
According to Gamer’s Nexus, Der8auer and CaseKing plan to reduce the size of the cooler and hydralic tubing to make it more in line with a typical 240mm or 360mm AIO liquid cooler and it would be comparable in performance with them without the need for a pump and its associated noise, size, and risk of failure. The Phase Shift Cooler should also be quieter as well, with the planned cooler moving from 90mm to 120mm fans on the final product and the fans not needing to spin up as fast as those high-pressure fans used with water cooling radiators. I have to say that it is an interesting proposition and I am looking forward to more information on this cooler as it progresses!
Subject: General Tech | April 17, 2018 - 02:27 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: ryzen 2, overclocking, LN2, amd
It took liquid nitrogen to do, but an experienced overclocker took the 4.3GHz Ryzen 7 2700X all the way to 5.884GHz and and the 4.2GHz Ryzen 5 2600X to 5.882GHz. If that doesn't impress you, then how about the fact that all cores were running
at that speed, and not just one core active? You will not see such high frequencies when using less esoteric cooling solutions however this indicates some serious overclocking potential for the new Ryzens in general. Check out the proof by following The Inquirer's links here.
"AMD'S RYZEN 2 processors are set to be proper powerhouses as the Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600X chips have been overclocked beyond a preposterously nippy 5.8GHz."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Microsoft Built Its Own Custom Linux Kernel For Its New IoT Service @ Slashdot
- The law of run Nintendo consequences: Sega brings out mini Mega Drive / Genesis @ The Register
- One Laptop Per Child's $100 Laptop Was Going To Change the World -- Then it All Went Wrong @ Slashdot
- Intel and Microsoft will use GPU power to detect cyber threats in memory @ The Inquirer
- Google accidentally reveals new swipe-happy Android UI @ The Register
- Microsoft Delays Windows 10 Spring Creators Update Because of 'Higher Percentage of BSODs' @ Slashdot
- Rechargeable zinc-ion batteries stretch, bend, and weave like yarn @ Nanotechweb
Subject: Memory | April 13, 2018 - 10:46 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: adata, xpg, ddr4, Samsung, overclocking, 5ghz, coffee lake, Z370
ADATA recently announced that it was able to overclock its upcoming XPG Spectrix D41 RGB DDR4 memory to 5 GHz on air cooling. The new Spectrix modules were first shown off at CES 2018 along with phase change cooled Spectrix D80 DIMMs.
Not content to let G.Skill have all the fun, ADATA took its 2132 MHz AX4U470038G19-DR41 memory and pushed it to 5 GHz in dual channel mode with fairly tight timings of 21-26-26-45-2T. They do not mention how much voltage was needed, but the XMP 2.0 profile of 4608 MHz at 19-19-19-39 and 1.45V suggests that likely at least 1.5V was needed. For comparison, G.Skill was able to hit 5007.4 MHz at CL21-26-26-46-2T while ADATA hit 4996.8 MHz at 21-26-26-45-2T (as reported by CPU-z). Both memory manufacturers used a MSI Z370I Gaming Pro Carbon AC motherboard and Intel Coffee Lake Core i7-8700K to achieve their overclocks. ADATA had the processor clocked at 4.3 GHz (100 BCLK x 43x multiplier).
ADATA’s Spectrix D41 memory uses stylized heat spreaders along with RGB LEDs along the top edges. According to ADATA it is using carefully screened Samsung B-die ICs which so far appear to be the best chips out there for DDR4 when it comes to pushing clocks and AMD compatibility. While a retail kit clocked at 5 GHz (at least when XMP is turned on) out of the box is still far off, the increasing number of successful overclocks is promising for enthusiasts that are looking for kits to overclock on their own. I am still waiting for the memory kit makers to demonstrate the 5GHz on air feat with an AMD platform though as so far the attempts have all used an Intel platform. Perhaps once Ryzen 2000 CPUs and X470 motherboards are out we will see what 5 GHz does for Infinity Fabric.
Tom Chan, director at ADATA Technology, was quoted in the press release as stating:
“For us, the next critical step will be working to make this more than just a technological milestone, but something that will be accessible to gamers, overclockers and others, so that they can ultimately benefit from this amazing performance.”
ADATA / XPG have not yet announced pricing for its Spectrix D41 (or D80) kits but hopefully they will be available soon. The Spectrix D41 should be available in up to 16GB per DIMM capacities and up to 4600 MHz with XMP 2.0 profiles. I am curious whether the D80 with its phase change cooler could be overclocked any more than 5 GHz or if that is simply the limits of Samsung’s current generation ICs regardless of cooling method (outside of exotic cooling like lquid helium or liquid nitrogen and needing ludicrous amounts of voltage of course heh).
Subject: Memory | March 29, 2018 - 12:58 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: Trident Z RGB, RGB, overclocking, G.Skill Trident Z, G.Skill, dual channel, ddr4, 5000 mhz
A bit over a month ago G.Skill launched a new Trident Z RGB kit that offered up 4700 MHz speeds in a 16GB kit using Samsung B-dies. Now, G.Skill has managed to push the kit to 5,000 MHz on air and the prototype kit is getting closer to fruition as a retail product.
G.Skill managed to overclock its Trident Z RGB 4700 MHz kit by a bit over 300 MHz to hit 5,007.4 MHz in an air cooled system featuring an MSI Z370I Gaming Pro Carbon AC and an Intel Core i7-8700K. The RGB memory kit achieved 5,007.4 MHz with timings of 21-26-26-46 2T (CL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, CR) and while they did not mention voltage the kit likely required around 1.5V since the base 4700 MHz kit needs 1.45 volts. The 8700K processor was sitting at the default 100 BCLK with a 43x multiplier for a clockspeed of 4.3 GHz. Perhaps more promising is that the overclocked memory was still able to be used in dual channel mode where previous attempts required extreme cooling methods and/or operating in single channel mode.
Tequila Huang, the Corporate Vice President of G.Skill International, had the following to say in the press release:
“Previously, the 5GHz memory speed is only achievable in extreme overclocking and in single-channel. We’re excited to share that we’ve been able to achieve the 5GHz memory speed in not only air-cooling conditions, but also in dual-channels. This is a major milestone for us. We will make every effort to bring this specification onto the consumer market, and bring the experience of extreme performance to worldwide users.”
G.Skill is not quite ready to bring a 5,000 MHz RGB memory kit to market, but they are getting closer and hopefully by the time they do memory pricing will have settled down a bit! It is impressive how far memory speeds have come in the last few years, and I am curious where we will go from here.
Subject: Processors | February 16, 2018 - 08:52 AM | Sebastian Peak
Tagged: tim, thermal paste, Ryzen 5 2400G, ryzen, overclocking, der8aur, delidding, APU, amd
Overclocker der8auer has posted a video demonstrating the delidding process of the AMD Ryzen 5 2400G, and his findings on its effect on temperatures and overclocking headroom.
The delidded Ryzen 5 2400G (image credit der8auer via YouTube)
The full video is embedded below:
The results are interesting, but disappointing from an overclocking standpoint, as he was only able to increase his highest frequency by 25 MHz. Thermals were far more impressive, as the liquid metal used in place of the factory TIM did lower temps considerably.
Here are his temperature results for both the stock and overclocked R5 2400G:
The process was actually quite straightforward, and used an existing Intel delidding tool (the Delid Die Mate 2) along with a small piece of acrylic to spread the force against the PCB.
Delidding the Ryzen 5 2400G (image credit der8auer via YouTube)
The Ryzen 5 2400G is using thermal paste and is not soldered, which enables this process to be reasonably safe - or as safe as delidding a CPU and voiding your warranty ever is. Is it worth it for lower temps and slight overclocking gains? That's up to the user, but integration of an APU like this invites small form-factors that could benefit from the lower temps, especially with low-profile air coolers.