Subject: Processors | October 19, 2018 - 01:55 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: 2700x, amd, coffee lake, coffee lake refresh, i5-9600K, i7-9700K, i9-9900K, Intel, ryzen 7, Z390
With the advent of the 9th generation of Core processors from Intel, we see the market return to what we have been used to in the past. Intel's offering is now faster and more effective than AMD's Ryzen, but it is also significantly more expensive. Instead of getting an APU and heatsink for ~$300, you will be paying ~$530 for just the processor with no cooler. That said the i9-9900K makes sense for those who have spent the money on an RTX 2080 Ti and a high resolution monitor, since they've already set a large budget; while those with less lofty dreams will be very happy with the Ryzen 7 2700X.
The question of overclocking is an interesting one, as Ken had no luck getting the chip to run above 5GHz. [H]ard|OCP had a slightly better experience, hitting 5.14GHz with a 3600MHz memory bus, which could not match the content creation power of Threadripper 2 even though it was sucking down more juice. Check out their review and then browse through the ones below.
"The new 9th generation Intel i9-9900K CPU is upon us! AMD has been pushing into Intel's desktop market and Intel knows it. Today Intel is pulling the curtain back on "not paid for" reviews and we are happy to be serving you one of those up here today. Is the i9-9900K better than the Ryzen 7 2700X, and is it worth the staggering price premium?"
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- Core i9-9900K @ The Tech Report
- Intel Core 9600k @ Guru of 3D
- Intel Core 9700k @ Guru of 3D
- Intel Core 9900k @ Guru of 3D
- Intel Core i9 9900K – Intel’s Answer to RYZEN is here! @ Bjorn3d
- Intel Core I9 9900k @ Modders-Inc
- Intel Core i9-9900K @ TechARP
- Intel Core i9-9900K @ Kitguru
- Intel Core i9 9900K Linux Benchmarks - 15-Way Intel/AMD Comparison On Ubuntu 18.10 @ Phoronix
- Intel Core i9-9900K and Core i7-9700K @ TechSpot
- Intel 9th Generation Core i9 9900K Review @ OCC
- Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz @ TechPowerUp
- A Look At Linux Application Scaling Up To 128 Threads @ Phoronix
- AMD Dual EPYC 7601 Benchmarks - 9-Way AMD EPYC / Intel Xeon Tests On Ubuntu 18.10 Server @ Phoronix
- AMD Athlon 200GE: Benchmarking The $60 Zen+Vega Chip @ Phoronix
- Ryzen 5 2600X vs. 2600: Which should you buy? @ Techspot
- AMD Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz @ TechPowerUp
One of the most radical changes to happen in the last two years in the PC hardware space has to be the launch of AMD's Ryzen processors. Despite the failure that was the FX-series with their Bulldozer architecture, AMD managed to shock the industry with the performance of their next generation Zen architecture.
After generations upon generations of consumer processors topping out at four cores going back to the Core 2 days, Intel finally launched their first 6-core processor for consumers with the 8700K almost exactly a year ago.
AMD's continued to persevere with the launch of the second generation Ryzen 7 2700X earlier this year, which managed to improve the single-threaded performance gap between AMD and Intel.
Still, this performance gap existed, leaving room for what Intel is launching today, their first 8-core mainstream consumer processor, the Core i9-9900K. Finally having core count parity with AMD, and still holding an advantage in single-threaded performance, this launch has garnered a lot of attention.
|Core i9-9900K||Ryzen 7 2700X||Threadripper 2950X||Core i9-7900X||Core i7-8700K||Core i7-7700K|
|Architecture||Coffee Lake Refresh||Zen+||Zen+||Skylake-X||Coffee Lake||Kaby Lake|
|Base Clock||3.6 GHz||3.7 GHz||3.5 GHz||3.3 GHz||3.7 GHz||4.2 GHz|
|Boost Clock||5.0 GHz||4.3 GHz||4.4 GHz||4.3 GHz||4.7 GHz||4.5 GHz|
|Memory Support||DDR4-2666 (Dual-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Dual-Channel)||DDR4-2933 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2666 (Quad-Channel)||DDR4-2666 (Dual-Channel)||DDR4-2400 (Dual-Channel)|
|TDP||95 W||105 W||180 W||140 W||95 W||91 W|
Subject: Processors | October 8, 2018 - 11:14 AM | Ken Addison
Tagged: Z390, STIM, ryzen, Intel, i9-9900K, i7-9700K, i5-9600K, 9th generation, 2700x
At their event in New York City today, Intel took the wraps off of their much-rumored 9th generation series of desktop processors.
Built upon the same "14 nm++" process technology as Coffee Lake, this new 9th generation is launching with 3 new processor models.
At the lower end, we have the i5-9600K, replacing the current i5-8600K. Staying with the same 6C/6T configuration, the 9600K improves the base frequency by 100 MHz, while adding 300 MHz to the rated single-core Turbo Boost 2.0 clock speed.
Moving onto the 8-core processors, we have the i7-9700K and the i9-9900K. Coming with Intel's first consumer i9 processor also comes the first i7 desktop processor not to feature Hyper-threading. While both processors have eight physical cores, only the i9-9900K will feature Hyper-threading allowing for a 16-thread configuration. Both processors maintain the same 95W TDP as the i7-8700K.
The lack of Hyper-Threading on the i7-9700K will provide quite the interesting performance comparison with the current flagship 6C/12T i7-8700K.
The flagship Intel Core i9-9900K has a base clock 100 MHz lower than the i7-8700K but features the same 5.0 GHz single-core Turbo Boost clock as the i7-8086K. Intel has also said that the all-core frequency for the i9-9900K is 400 MHz faster than the i7-8700K. Additionally, the i9-9900K features 16MB of cache, compared to the 12MB found on the i7-8700K.
Price-wise, both the i5-9600K and i7-9700K are similar to the 8th generation processors they are replacing, while the i9-9900K will come in at $500.
Addressing one of the most common complaints from enthusiasts about recent Intel processors, the 9th generation series of processors will come with what Intel is referring to as "Solder Thermal Interface Material" (STIM).
Switching back to solder as the TIM for these CPUs should provide significantly improved thermal conductivity, resulting in additional overclocking headroom as well as cooler and quieter operation at stock frequencies without the need of delidding.
Alongside these new processors comes the launch of a new chipset from Intel, Z390. In addition to native USB 3.1 Gen 1 (10 Gbit/s) support, Intel claims the Z390 chipset will sport improved power management for the 8-core processor variants, as well as integrated 802.11 AC connectivity.
The Z390 platform will continue to feature the same "up to 40" PCI Express lanes that we've seen for several generations, with 16 lanes being directly connected to the CPU, and the rest coming from the chipset which is still connected via a DMI 3.0 link.
Despite the launch of a new chipset in the form of Z390, these new 9th generation chipsets will maintain compatibility with all previous 300-series Intel chipsets, such as Z370 through updates that will be made available by motherboard manufacturers.
These new 9th generation processors will also feature a combination of hardware and software fixes for the following side-channel attack security vulnerabilities like Spectre and Meltdown:
- Speculative side channel variant SpectreV2 (Branch Target Injection) = Microcode + Software
- Speculative side channel variant Meltdown V3 (Rogue Data Cache Load) = Hardware
- Speculative side channel variant Meltdown V3a (Rogue System Register Read) = Microcode
- Speculative side channel variant V4 (Speculative Store Bypass) = Microcode + Software
- Speculative side channel variant L1 Terminal Fault = Hardware
While the almost $500 price tag is substantially higher than AMD's $330 8-core Ryzen 7 2700X, Intel's advantage in single-threaded performance combined with matched core counts should provide for quite the interesting comparison.
The i9-9900K is available for pre-order today, and will launch on October 19th. No word on the rest of the 9th generation lineup, but we expect them to launch at the same time as the i9 processor.
Subject: General Tech | September 20, 2018 - 12:23 PM | Alex Lustenberg
Tagged: turing, RTX 2080 Ti, RTX 2080, rtx, podcast, pascal, nvidia, Intel, i9-9900K, i7-9700K, coffee lake
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Subject: General Tech | September 11, 2018 - 01:37 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: geekbench, ryzen 2, coffee lake s, rumours, amd, Intel, i9-9900K, i7-9700K
Geekbench leaks are pretty common, and often at least a wee bit photoshopped so don't take the performance numbers leaked out as fact but there is a slight possibility they are based in reality. The i9-9900K is shown with a score of 6248 points in single core and 33037 in multicore, while the i7 part reached 6297 and 30152 respectively. The logic holds somewhat as the i7-9700K is 100MHz slower than the i9 but has half the threads as it is not multi-threaded. These numbers are higher than Ryzen 2 in single threaded performance but fall behind on multi-threaded apps; as has been historically the case.
Grab your salt shaker and head to WCCFTech for more details on these two chips as well as the i5-9600K.
"Geekbench 4 benchmarks for three next-generation Core processors popped up early according to the folks at WCCFtech, with the chips so far look to be mild refreshes on the current Coffee Lake S generation of processors."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Cisco shoves more GPUs in AI server for deep learning, still doesn't play Crysis @ The Register
- Cryptocurrency Wipeout Deepens To $640 Billion As Ether Leads Declines @ Slashdot
- Guys, geez... finally 5Gs: AT&T grows super-fast mobile net city rollout @ The Register
- Intel's 14nm CPU shortage set to cause slump in PC shipments @ The Inquirer
- What to Expect From iOS 12 When It Launches (Very Soon) @ Wired
- Essential Apps You Should Install on a New PC Running Windows or macOS @ Techspot
- Tech ARP 20th Anniversary Giveaway Week 2 by Dell! @ TechARP
Subject: General Tech | August 13, 2018 - 01:49 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: Intel, rumour, release, coffee lake s, i9-9900K, i5-9600K, i7-9700K
According to the various sources The Inquirer has, the Coffee Lake refresh will be launched on the first of October, in time to ensure systems builders have models ready for the holidays. This new processor does not offer a compelling upgrade for those with a modern system, as it is very similar to it's predecessor. If you have something a little older however, the three new processors offer increased frequencies and core counts, the 9900K sports a default Boost Clock of 5GHz, which is nothing to sneeze at.
"If you were expecting anything bigger then allow us to disappoint you as, really the ninth-gen chips are mild upgrades on their predecessors, unless Intel has been keeping something very well hidden up its corporate sleeves."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Intel hands first Optane DIMM to Google, where it'll collect dust until a supporting CPU arrives @The Register
- Android Pie is borking fast charging on some Pixel XL handsets @ The Inquirer
- Many Google Services on Android Devices and iPhones Store Location Data, Even if Location Sharing is Disabled From Privacy Settings @ Slashdot
- The off-brand 'military-grade' x86 processors, in the library, with the root-granting 'backdoor' @ The Register
- NETGEAR Orbi (RBK23) AC2200 Mesh Wi-Fi System @ Kitguru
- Reolink Argus 2 Wire-Free 1080p Security Camera Review @ NikKTech