Subject: General Tech, Mobile | November 20, 2017 - 08:25 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: windows hello, stylus, ryzen mobile, Ryzen 5 2500U, hp, convertible, amd
Last month AMD formally launched its Ryzen Mobile APUs with partners Acer, HP, and Lenovo announcing that systems using the new processors would be out by the end of the year. The first system to become available for purchase appears to be the HP Envy X360 convertible notebook which is available with a Ryzen 5 2500U APU. The 15.6” 2-in-1 starts at $574.99 (at time of writing) and thankfully appears to take full advantage of the AMD processor.
The HP Envy X360 was spotted by Anandtech who noted that the notebook is currently being sold at HP.com as well as brick and mortar Best Buy stores. The notebook is part of the company’s higher end Envy brand. It weighs in at 4.75 pounds and measures 14.16” x 9.8” x 0.77”. The 360° hinge allows the touchscreen display to flip around to lay flat with the underside of the keyboard enabling tablet mode. The top half with thin bezels holds the 15.6” 1920 x 1080 display and IR capable Windows Hello camera. The bottom half holds the rest of the hardware and features a backlit island-style keyboard with numpad, a wide trackpad, and the various I/O ports around the edges including USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 with DisplayPort 1.4 and USB Power support (for charging), two full size USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports, HDMi, and a headset jack. Other features include Bang and Olufsen audio with dual speakers and a stylus that can be used with Windows Ink, One Note, and other apps.
Internal specifications include the above-mentioned Ryzen 5 2500U, up to 16 GB of dual channel 2400 MHz memory, and mechanical and solid-state storage options. The base model of this laptop starts at 8 GB DDR4 at 2400 MHz (2 x 4GB) and 1TB of 7200 RPM hard drive storage. Users can configure the notebook with up to a 1TB NVMe SSD or a combination of SATA hard drive and NVMe M.2 drives. The HP Envy X360 also features Intel 802.11ac Wi-Fi and it is all powered by a 3-cell 55.8 Wh battery. The APU is a 15W TDP chip with four Zen-based CPU cores (eight threads) running at 2 GHz base and up to 3.6 GHz boost, a RX Vega-based GPU clocked at up to 1100 MHz with 8 CUs (512 cores), and 6 MB of cache (2MB L2 and 4MB L3).
The HP Envy X360 15z Touch convertible laptop is available now starting at $574.99 and going up to $1374.99 fully loaded with Windows 10 Pro.
In all this looks to be a good design win for AMD is a promising start for the future of Ryzen Mobile. Thankfully the APU appears to be running at its full 15W TDP and is not being held back by single channel memory like past AMD mobile chips have allegedly been. I am looking forward to seeing what AMD’s other partners have to offer. Until then though, we have a Ryzen 7 1700 powered Asus ROG gaming laptop to ponder about!
Subject: Mobile | November 20, 2017 - 02:23 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: ryzen 7 1700, asus, ASUS ROG, Strix GL702ZC, amd, gaming laptop, RX580, freesync
The ASUS ROG Strix GL702ZC is the first Ryzen powered gaming laptop we have seen, featuring the Ryzen 7 1700 desktop CPU along with a 4GB RX580 GPU. This means that the 17.3" IPS 1080p monitor is Freesync capable with a maximum 60Hz refresh rate. That resolution and refresh rate will ensure even AAA titles can play with your graphics settings cranked.
In addition to the previously mentioned components,the GL702ZC ships with 16GB DDR4-2400MHz, a 256GB SATA III SSD, a 1TB 5400rpm HDD, USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C connectivity and 802.11ac 2x2 Wi-Fi along with Bluetooth 4.1. The base model retails for a competitive $1500.
PR below the fold.
Subject: Graphics Cards | November 17, 2017 - 01:37 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, Star Wars Battlefront 2, relive 17.11.2
AMD have just released their driver to enhance performance on Star Wars Battlefront 2, for those of you who caved and bought EA's cash cow disguised as a game. The Crimson ReLive Edition 17.11.2is available for download today, grab it right here.
The update also addresses issues in several other games, including Middle-earth: Shadow of War and Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon as well as green corruption in recorded gameplay and enhancements to WattMan
Subject: Processors | November 16, 2017 - 04:38 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, EPYC, 7401P
AMD's new EPYC server chips range in price from around $4000 for the top end 32 core 7601 to around $500 for the 8 core 7251 with the $1000, 24 core EPYC 7401P sitting towards the middle of this family. Phoronix have tested quite a few of these processors, today focusing on the aforementioned 7401P, testing it against several other EPYC processors as well as several Xeon E3 and E5 models as well as a Gold and a Silver. To say that AMD showed up Intel in multithreaded performance is somewhat of an understatement as you can see in their benchmarks. Indeed in many cases you need around $5000 worth of Intel CPU to compete with the 7401P and even then Intel lags behind in many tests. The only shortcoming of the 7401P is that it can only be run in single socket configurations, not that you necessarily need two of these chips!
"We've been looking at the interesting AMD EPYC server processors recently from the high-end EPYC 7601 to the cheapest EPYC 7251 at under $500 as well as the EPYC 7351P that offers 16 cores / 32 threads for only about $750. The latest EPYC processor for testing at Phoronix has been the EPYC 7401P, a 24 core / 48 thread part that is slated to retail for around $1075 USD."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- AMD EPYC 7551 @ Phoronix
- Core i5-8400 vs. Overclocked Ryzen 5 1600 @ TechSpot
- In Hindsight: Some of the Worst CPU/GPUs Purchases of 2017 @ TechSpot
- The Latest In Our Massive Linux Benchmarking Setup - November 2017 @ Phoronix
- i7-2600K vs. i7-8700K - Is Upgrading Worthwhile? @ Hardware Canucks
Subject: General Tech | November 15, 2017 - 02:12 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: gaming, Wolfenstein 2, vulkan, amd, nvidia
[H]ard|OCP took a close look at the new Wolfenstein game, covering the new graphics options which appear in the menus as well as the bugs that could be caused by then, not to mention the benchmarking. For this Vulkan game they chose three AMD cards and four NVIDIA cards to test with a variety of thsoe options enabled as well as looking at the effect resolution has on your performance. As we have seen in other recent games, AMD's Vega 64 is a strong contender at 4K resolutions, surpassing the GTX 1080 but not quite matching its 1080 Ti brother. It is also worth noting this game loves VRAM, in fact 8GB is not enough for Uber settings. Read through the full review for performance numbers as well as insight into the best graphics settings to chose.
"Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus is out; this new game uses the id Tech 6 game engine and Vulkan API to give you a great gaming experience on the PC with today’s latest GPUs. We will compare performance features, see what settings work best, find what is playable in the game and compare performance among several video cards."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Battletech’s campaign mode is a robot Dark Ages @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- Doom definitely works on the Switch, but it looks noticeably worse @ Ars Technica
- Need For Speed Payback is really very terrible indeed @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- Star Wars Battlefront II PC graphics performance analysis @ Guru of 3D
- Wolfenstein 2 story DLC dated, detailed, silly-named @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- Assassin's Creed Origins: How Heavy Is It on Your CPU? @ Techspot
- Fresh cyber-hell awaits in new System Shock remake vid @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
Subject: Cases and Cooling | November 9, 2017 - 04:28 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, Threadripper, watercooler, phanteks, Glacier C399A, X399
[H]ard|OCP have been working their way through every Threadripper compatible waterblock, the latest model to be tested is Phanteks' Glacier C399A. The top of the waterblock is clear acrylic, perfect if you plan on adding a little colour to your coolant especially if you make use of the Frag-Harder Disco Lights. Mounting is reasonably easy, no dedicated in or out connector to confuse and tightening can be accomplished with a small pair of pliers, which you may find necessary. The cooling performance was in line with the other coolers they've tested, though the C399A does lose some marks because of the need to tighten the mounting mechanism on occasion. Check out the full review for details.
"The Phanteks Glacier C399A is a custom-designed water cooling block built specifically for AMD's new Threadripper processors. It has great looks, Frag-Harder Disco Lights, is built like a tank, and seems to be just what the doctor ordered when it comes to cooling overclocked Threadripper CPUs."
Here are some more Cases & Cooling reviews from around the web:
- EK Supremacy EVO Threadripper TR4 Waterblock @ [H]ard|OCP
- XSPC RayStorm Neo CPU Water Block @ TechPowerUp
- Cooler Master MA610P and MA410P RGB @ Kitguru
- Fractal Design Celsius S24 @ TechPowerUp
- Raijintek Asterion Plus @ Benchmark Reviews
- Cooler Master MasterAir MA610P @ Modders-Inc
- Corsair Carbide SPEC-04 TG @ Benchmark Reviews
- BitFenix Aurora @ TechPowerUp
- NZXT H700i @ Guru3D
- Thermaltake View 71 Tempered Glass Edition @ [H]ard|OCP
Subject: General Tech | November 9, 2017 - 02:38 PM | Alex Lustenberg
Tagged: video, titan xp, teleport, starcraft 2, raja koduri, radeon, qualcomm, podcast, nvidia, Intel, centriq, amplifi, amd
PC Perspective Podcast #475 - 11/09/17
Join us for discussion on Intel with AMD graphics, Raja's move to Intel, and more!
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Hosts: Josh Walrath, Jeremy Hellstrom, Allyn Malventano, Ken Addison
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Program length: 1:29:42
Week in Review:
News items of interest:
Hardware/Software Picks of the Week
1:13:40 Allyn: Relatively cheap Samsung 82” (!!!) 4K TV
1:17:45 Jeremy: What exactly is a "technology certificate license" Logitech?
1:23:45 Josh: 1800X for $399!!!!!
1:24:50 Ken: The Void Wallet
Subject: General Tech, Processors | November 9, 2017 - 02:30 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: Skull Canyon, nuc, kaby lake-g, Intel, Hades Canyon VR, Hades Canyon, EMIL, amd
Hot on the heels of Intel's announcement of new mobile-focused CPUs integrating AMD Radeon graphics, we have our first glimpse at a real-world design using this new chip.
Posted on the infamous Chinese tech forum, Chiphell earlier today, this photo appears to be a small form factor PC design integrating the new Kaby Lake-G CPU and GPU solution.
Looking at the standard size components on the board like the Samsung M.2 SSD and the DDR4 SODIMM memory modules, we can start to get a better idea of the actual size of the Kaby Lake-G module.
Additionally, we get our first look at the type of power delivery infrastructure that devices with Kaby Lake-G are going to require. It's impressive how small the motherboard is taking into account all of the power phases needed to feed the CPU, GPU, and HBM 2 memory.
Looking back at the leaked NUC roadmap from September, the picture starts to become more clear. While the "Hades Canyon" NUCs on this roadmap threw us for a loop when we first saw it months ago, it's now clear that they are referencing the new Kaby Lake-G line of products. The plethora of IO options from the roadmap, including dual Gigabit Ethernet and 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports also seem to match closely with the leaked NUC photo above.
Using this information we also now have a better idea of the thermal and power requirements for Kaby Lake-G. The base "Hades Canyon" NUC is listed with a 65W processor, while the "Hades Canyon VR" is listed with as a 100W part. This means that devices retain the same levels of CPU performance from the existing Kaby Lake-H Quad Core mobile CPUs which clock in at 35W, plus roughly 30 or 65W of graphics performance.
These leaked 3DMark scores might give us an idea of the performance of the Hades Canyon VR NUC.
One thing is clear; Hades Canyon will be the highest power NUC Intel has ever produced, surpassing the 45W Skull Canyon. Considering the already unusual for a NUC footprint of Skull Canyon, I'm interested to see the final form of Hades Canyon as well as the performance it brings!
With what looks to be a first half 2018 release date on the roadmap, it seems likely that we could see this NUC or other similar devices being shown off at CES in January. Stay tuned for more continuing coverage of Intel's Kaby Lake-G and upcoming devices featuring it!
The Expected Unexpected
Last night we first received word that Raja had resigned from AMD (during a sabbatical) after they had launched Vega. The initial statement was that Raja would come back to resume his position at AMD in a December/January timeframe. During this time there was some doubt as to if Raja would in fact come back to AMD, as “sabbaticals” in the tech world would often lead the individual to take stock of their situation and move on to what they would consider to be greener pastures.
Raja has dropped by the PCPer offices in the past.
Initially it was thought that Raja would take the time off and then eventually jump to another company and tackle the issues there. This behavior is quite common in Silicon Valley and Raja is no stranger to this. Raja cut his teeth on 3D graphics at S3, but in 2001 he moved to ATI. While there he worked on a variety of programs including the original Radeon, the industry changing Radeon 9700 series, and finishing up with the strong HD 4000 series of parts. During this time ATI was acquired by AMD and he became one of the top graphics guru at that company. In 2009 he quit AMD and moved on to Apple. He was Director of Graphics Architecture at Apple, but little is known about what he actually did. During that time Apple utilized AMD GPUs and licensed Imagination Technologies graphics technology. Apple could have been working on developing their own architecture at this point, which has recently showed up in the latest iPhone products.
In 2013 Raja rejoined AMD and became a corporate VP of Visual Computing, but in 2015 he was promoted to leading the Radeon Technology Group after Lisu Su became CEO of the company. While there Raja worked to get AMD back on an even footing under pretty strained conditions. AMD had not had the greatest of years and had seen their primary moneymakers start taking on water. AMD had competitive graphics for the most part, and the Radeon technology integrated into AMD’s APUs truly was class leading. On the discrete side AMD was able to compare favorably to NVIDIA with the HD 7000 and later R9 200 series of cards. After NVIDIA released their Maxwell based chips, AMD had a hard time keeping up. The general consensus here is that the RTG group saw its headcount decreased by the company-wide cuts as well as a decrease in R&D funds.
Subject: General Tech | November 8, 2017 - 03:26 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: gaming, Wolfenstein 2, the new colossus, nvidia, amd, vulkan
Wolfenstein II The New Colossus uses the Vulkan API which could favour AMD's offerings however NVIDIA have vastly improved their support so a win is not guaranteed. The Guru of 3D tested the three resolutions which most people are interested in, 1080p, 1440p and 4K on 20 different GPUs in total. They also took a look at the impact of 4-core versus 8-core CPUs, testing the i7-4790K, i7-5960K as well as the Ryzen 7 1800X and even explored the amount of VRAM the game uses. Drop by to see all their results as well as hints on dealing with the current bugs.
"We'll have a peek at the PC release of Wolfenstein II The New Colossus for Windows relative towards graphics card performance. The game is 100% driven by the Vulkan API. in this test twenty graphics cards are being tested and benchmarked."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Stellaris FTL changes are in the warp pipes @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- Humble Strategy Simulator Bundle
- Nearly a year later, video game voice actors end their strike @ Ars Technica
- Call of Duty WWII: Benchmark Performance Analysis @ TechPowerUp
- Take Two: All future games will feature microtransactions @ HEXUS
- Wot I Think: Call of Duty: WW2 Multiplayer @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- Call of Duty: WW2: PC graphics analysis benchmark @ Guru of 3D
- Total War: Rome II expanding again with Empire Divided @ Rock, Paper, SHOTGUN
- F1 2017 On Linux With 23 Graphics Cards Using Vulkan @ Phoronix
- Radeon vs. NVIDIA Vulkan Performance For F1 2017 On Linux @ Phoronix