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AMD Processor and GPU Roadmaps Through 2013

Author: Josh Walrath
Subject: General Tech
Manufacturer: AMD

AMD Processor and GPU Roadmaps Through 2013

2013 sees some interesting changes.  We have Steamroller with the Kaveri APU in both mobile and desktop.  These products will stretch from 17 watt TDP up to 100 watt in desktop.  Of particular note is that these products will be based on 28 nm.  We do not know who AMD will go with when manufacturing these products, but the assumption so far is that TSMC could be getting most of the business.  GloFo will still be a partner for AMD, but until they can get working 28 nm lines running AMD could be hedging their bets.  22 nm outside of Intel will not happen for at least another two years, so the choice for AMD to compete in the low power area with Intel is pretty clear.  28 nm is a must.  The new low power core is based on the Jaguar architecture, which is the next generation Bobcat.  In the same TDP range as we see today we will have 2 to 4 cores with Kabini (9 to 18 watt TDP).  Tamesh could be moving closer to 1 watt TDP, but this information is not official so far.

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Of further interest is that we see no mention of Steamroller on the CPU only desktop side.  Could this be a hint that AMD will move away from producing desktop parts that do not feature an APU?  I am assuming this is the case, as AMD wants to really push HSA.  It makes little sense if one were to push a more heterogeneous computing environment, but not have the top end CPU embrace this technology.

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Finally we have the server roadmap for 2012-2013.  Interlagos goes to Abu Dhabi, Valencia moves to Seoul, and Zurich goes to Delhi.  All of these parts will continue to be 32 nm, but the next gen parts will embrace Piledriver up and down the line.  This will improve IPC and power across the board.  These will continue to support the current socket infrastructure AMD has.  What we should note is that there is no mention of the eventual migration of APUs into the server space.  If AMD makes huge strides with HSA, we can expect to eventually see APUs invade this marketplace.  This is almost a given at some point, especially in the world of High Performance Computer (HPC).  If AMD can deliver on HSA, then they will have a serious leg up on Intel when it comes to this type of computer.  As AMD mentioned in their Analyst day, their graphics technology is the crown jewel of their IP portfolio.  This is an area where AMD can excel at.

February 2, 2012 | 02:21 PM - Posted by collie (not verified)

Is "Hondo" x86 based, can I run it fanless as a silent pc, or is it a tablet part?

February 2, 2012 | 02:33 PM - Posted by Josh Walrath

Yes, Hondo is Bobcat based. It just seems to be a major revision of Brazos that further enhances changes to a mature 40 nm process from TSMC. No new features, but a better TDP as compared to the original Brazos.

February 2, 2012 | 02:45 PM - Posted by DieHard (not verified)

Still no sign of 28nm FX processors.

February 2, 2012 | 04:47 PM - Posted by Josh Walrath

I doubt there will be any 28 nm FX processors. My guess is that all desktop will go to APUs after mid-2013. Only server will have the more dedicated CPUs. And even then I think servers will eventually go to APUs due to the GPGPU potential, especially if HSA does build a foundation.

February 3, 2012 | 12:58 AM - Posted by Operandi

I don’t really see why the future of AMDs processors being APU precludes them from making FX (or other higher-end) processors.

A big part of HSA (Fusion or whatever they want to call it) is the performance potential it offers. Even if AMD never even matches Intel in x86 performance again having a very capable GCN GPU onboard the CPU could make for very compelling high-end product for workstation and enthusiast class machines as well as servers.

February 2, 2012 | 04:30 PM - Posted by amd hater and ex fanbuoy (not verified)

so is it tamesh or temash.

amd cant make up their minds in their slides and their text on the analyst and blog pages of their own site at amd.com

this company is such a poor example of the human species.

it sucks to be an amd fanboy. i really do wonder why i stick with amd all these years and decades already.

i should better kill my enthusiasm and very self.
duh.

February 2, 2012 | 06:07 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

lol

February 2, 2012 | 05:49 PM - Posted by Wolvenmoon (not verified)

I didn't see any 8 core desktop parts for 2012.

So I'll probably have to buy Intel and look at AMD again in 4 years.

February 2, 2012 | 06:06 PM - Posted by Josh Walrath

AMD is showing in the last slide the 4 to 8 core Piledriver based part. Unless of course you are looking for an 8 module/16 core chip?

February 2, 2012 | 08:42 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

So what is going to replace the E350?

February 2, 2012 | 09:47 PM - Posted by Josh Walrath

Well, I would imagine something along the lines of... a part clocked the same, but pulls less power. E-360?

Along those same lines we will probably see something like a 18 watt TDP part with faster graphics clock and core speeds up to 1.8 GHz.

Nothing official yet, this is just speculation.

February 3, 2012 | 10:06 PM - Posted by Uncle Bob (not verified)

AMD will continue to deliver desktop CPUs beyond Vishera even though some folks are in suspense because they are not disclosed on the slides. Those old enough to remember the launch of Athlon should have a smile on their face as they will still be able to purchase good AMD desktop CPUs in '13-'14. That's all I can tell you for now. ;)

February 14, 2012 | 10:56 PM - Posted by campdude (not verified)

Its kindof nice that it "looks" like AM3+ will be supported for quite some time. The server roadmap even has AM3+....

If piledriver is in thier 2013 slide and they meet the rumor target for 2012 release of piledriver....

THEN: Hopefully a "refresh" of CPU line up in 2013 would be nice(with more preformance than 2012 release hopefully)
THEN one last kicker cpu 2013/2014 with really high clock speeds before they wind down the AM3+ platform.

Thats what I'm hoping for... I'll probably wait too long and be forced into buying a server CPU for my desktop... (nah im smarter than that this time around... had to get an opteron 180 for my S939 to go from single core to dual core previous system)

February 6, 2012 | 07:27 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

HSA finally
I suspect AMD will be Kickass by 2013-2014 meanwhile trinty should
outsell Lano and BD combined as well they should take 1/3 of mobile platforms by then.

February 7, 2012 | 10:57 PM - Posted by Uncle Bob (not verified)

Agreed!

June 13, 2012 | 10:32 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Amd 2014 will be great, but Intel by then would have 3.4 Ghz i9 or 11 8core, integrated intel5000 graphics :P

prediction amd 2014 is similar to the phenom core lines except more radeon cores with higher clock speeds ;)
Amd is going to be the best "balanced" processor in terms of computing power and graphical power.

estimate 2014:

Amd APU, cuda core: 120 (or 320) ^AMD APUS dont ever use CUDA cores?^ or radeon cores 480 (725/930mhz) - 820 (725/1130mhz)
2.5 ghz - 4.2 Ghz

works with the dedicated graphics 7xxx series, or the 8xxx series...

February 4, 2013 | 07:02 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

AMD FX - 8530 Stock clock speed 5.0 Ghz, and no thats not a typo ;) you wont here about this for a bit but keep an eye out for this bombshell

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