For a mere $60 you can get the ASRock D1800M motherboard with a Celeron J1800 installed, or for about $8 more you can get a socketed Sempron 2650 and compatible motherboard. After that it is merely a matter of adding a PSU, RAM and storage and you have a working machine for very little cost. Those were the systems which Hardware Secrets tested out to see which low cost, low powered system made more sense to purchase for light browsing and media consumption. As you would expect the 1Ghz clock advantage that the Celeron enjoys pushed its performance above the Sempron in all tests but 3D Mark but what is interesting is that the performance gap was nowhere near as large a percentage difference as the clock speed. While it is clear that the Celeron runs cooler, quieter and faster the fact that the AMD solution is socketed might sway some buyers decision. Check out the full review if you are interested in working machines that cost less than $200 to assemble.
"Both AMD and Intel recently released new families of low cost, low TDP desktop CPUs. AMD launched the AM1 platform with Sempron and Athlon "Kabini" processors, while Intel released the "Bay Trail-D" Celeron and Pentium CPUs, recognizable by the use of the letter "J" on the model naming. Among the lowest-end models of each family are, respectively, the AMD Sempron 2650, and the Intel Celeron J1800. Let's compare the performance of those CPUs and discover which one is the best buy in the low-end market segment."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- AMD FX-9590 Processor Review: Brute Almighty @ Modders-Inc
- AMD FX-8370 and FX-8370e Review @HiTech Legion
- Intel Core i7 5820K Haswell-E @ Kitguru
- Intel Core i7-5960X Extreme Edition, Core i7-5930K and Core i7-5820K @ X-bit Labs
- Core i7-5960X 5930K 5820K Overclocking & Performance @ [H]ard|OCP
Did I miss the link to the
Did I miss the link to the original article?
I just found the article.
I just found the article. sigh.
at the bottom of the posting it shows the link.
Source: Hardware Secrets
That’s where you click for the article.
I hope this helps.
Thanks, dreamer. Putting it
Thanks, dreamer. Putting it after the ‘other random junk that the keyword engine stuffed in here’ isn’t the best location.
Where is the article on
Where is the article on testing these low cost solutions.
I was interested in the article posted.
I was brought to Amazon store instead.
🙁
Shill-tastic reporting, slip
Shill-tastic reporting, slip a short ad blerb in, a few links, and way at the bottom the actual link to the article.
It’s that north of the border, paid by the Shill form of journalism, that acts to make for more ad click revenue. Such is the way of the bottom feeders, clogging the web with some much worthless coattail grabbing on other sites content. The cut and paste is strong north of the boarder, and the snake oil salesmen are in control of the tech reporting business. Just Shill Shill Shill, all day and night, the more clicks the more pennies!
The source link always goes
The source link always goes to the lower part of the article. Not in PC Perspective, but in ANY site. You always give the source in the bottom of your article.
Sorry, forgot to put in the
Sorry, forgot to put in the inline link, fixed that just now. Anonymous readers, please don’t let that stop you from continuing to assume that I never put them in or whatever other random grievances and scenarios come to you.
I thought that their problem
I thought that their problem was that they couldn’t see the link in the end.
AMD should had never produced
AMD should had never produced a dual core Sempron for the AM1 platform. I know they had to do something with the quad core chips that just couldn’t pass the quality check, but 2650 should have stayed an OEM part at worst case. You lose more future money from a customer who will be extremely disappointed from your product’s performance, than you make by selling it instead of throwing it into the dust bin.
Also one more mistake of 2650’s existence is that sites will go out and choose that particular model and paint a very ugly picture for the AM1 socket against Intel’s offerings.
If 2650 had never existed, there would have been 3850 against that Celeron. And 3850 costs less than $35 when 2650 costs $31 (and NOT $40 as the article says – That’s where those Amazon links really help). NO ONE with a very basic logic, would go out and buy a 2650, when with less than $4 dollars more, can go to a quad core model.
Agreed, I’ve now built 7
Agreed, I’ve now built 7 systems with the 5350 as Pentium 4 replacements, and it’s a great little chip. I’ve never understood who in their right mind, (and also in a western, developed world economy), would need to save that $25 to get a 2650. The TDP is the same but it’s unacceptably slow, the graphics are probably the weakest in the industry AND it’s only got 2 threads, so it’s not even gona have a smooth user experience. The only place where the 2650 makes any sense is in a market where that $25 is a average week paycheck, AND to be fair that is the market that AMD was targeting when the announced AM1.
I suppose the real question is how the hell did so many family members and parents of friends get by on a Pentium 4?
the FM2 parts are falling
the FM2 parts are falling below the AM1 prices.
you can pick up an A6-5400k black for 10 bux less then a 5350
better GPU, better clock speeds,
WOW, would ya look at that! I
WOW, would ya look at that! I just checked that and you are correct. HOWEVER you are not getting the motherboard for as cheap as AM1, plus when it comes to SOC cheap motherboard is fine but for a normal APU you are probably gona want better than the cheapest board you can find. There is also a 41w tdp diffrence betwine the 2, and the stock cooler for the FM2 will be conciderably louder than the AM1, and I’m positive of that as I have one of each running in my home right now, the AM1 stock cooler is tiny and super quiet.
Also the A6 seems in a weird place to me, a little overkill for the most basic computing but not quite powerful enough for much more, true the gpu is better than the minimal gpu, but not better enough to do anything that you coudn’t do with the minimal. It’s a weird one.
For a quiet surfing and video rig, I’m still in the AM1 camp, for anything more than that you gota go at least to the a10, I3 or at least haswell Pentium. The only reason I could see going for A6 would be for a mother board with more pci slots and SATA ports, but then why not go lower or higher. I just dont see why the a6 is a thing.
they almost come out a draw,
they almost come out a draw, I know you can pick up cheap MSI am1 boards for 35 bux.. I just did an asrock FM2 it was 50 then the price of the chip
they are within dollars of each other, so i just go to FM2. Check amz for that 5600k i saw it up for 39.00!!!! and the system has an upgrade path if it needs it. Entry level gaming builds, that 5600k with a decent GPU and you are in the game for pocket change.
leave out the card and you have a solid desktop for even LESS.
Yep the AM1 is quiet but the stock FM2 isn’t much louder if at all… i can’t really tell.
I was doing the 5350s until the 5400k dropped like a rock…. only have to stock 1 motherboard for lots of builds now. (ASRock FM2A55M-HD+ FM2+)
Agreed, draw.
Agreed, draw.
I don’t really know where AM1
I don’t really know where AM1 will go though… the 5350 is the only AM1 chip worth a crap.
But i’d rather carry FM2 stock cause I know i have more options with that platform… with AM1 its a dead end.
Well I hope you are using a
Well I hope you are using a FM2+ motherboard. FM2 is already at it’s end with richland. you can plug a fm2 chip into a fm2+ MB, I anoyingly bought a Richland system with a FM2 motherboard about a month before fm2+ hit the shelves, so there is no upgrading this chip without the board too. Not a problem tho, got a nice video card eventualy, the cpu is plenty good enough for now.
Also AM1 might have a serious future, the boards are so simple it would be, well not easy but not super complicated to put an entirely different architecture into a soc and pop it in the same socket. Have you been in contact with AM1? It’s the simplest board you have ever seen. There is very little there, so it’s my guess that there will be a future for am1, IF they can develop a worth while replacement chip that is.
Yea that asrock board is FM2+
Yea that asrock board is FM2+
I like the AM1 stuff, that athlon is a really fast little chip but they better start showing that socket some love cause those semps are junk, its the 5350 or don’t even bother.
It is about time for AM3+ to go away and maybe the FX chips can jump to FM2+ . The AMD line up is getting a little messy, you’ve got these no video athlons poking around the same price range as the APUs
lots of choices, all around the same price ranges, easy to get your eyes crossed.
oh yea, what case are you tossing your AM1 builds into? I used one of those xion HTPC cases, fits perfect, good price.
I wish someone made a shuttle case size with a decent price.. i hate having to choose between, thin case with no chance of a video card or, mid towers.
I mostly work with this one,
I mostly work with this one, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121100 for legacy system replacement. These are slick nice little cases with a perfectly fine 300w power suply. The power suply is SUPER QUIET with the fan inside pulling air flow outward, plus it has a nice screen right over the cpu and a good filter over the very quiet mini case fan. Room for 2 3.5 in drives, one 5.25 and a cute little single whole perfect for a single screw ssd mount.
I’ve so far replaced 5 Pentium 4s, and 1 PENTIUM 3!!! with AM1 5350. Most people who actually want a more powerful system upgraded long ago, and would never consider anything so low powered, but these are perfect for the minimal users who I finally convinced to spend the $350 all in (os and every thing included) rather than pay me to once again patch the system back together. Compared to a pc and os 12-15 years old, the 5350 is like lightning. It’s just perfectly designed for a smooth user experience. It’s clear when you try to do any actual work on it how slow and weak it actually is but for basic computing it’s optimized to be very smooth and usable.
The one big complaint I have with the AM1 motherboard manufactures is I haven’t seen one with a IDE port. There are a few with extra SATA ports and a few other on board extras, and even one with the IDE port connections and outline but no actual port attached. In every single legacy replacement I’ve had to fill an Oh so limited pci slot with a IDE card to keep the older drives.
I wish I had access to
I wish I had access to windows with bing, I would love a free windows option. And before you say the L word, these are people who were afraid when I upgraded them from windows 98 to xp, so yea, gota go windows.
check this
check this out
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208054&cm_re=xion-_-11-208-054-_-Product
little cheaper, I did my am1 in this and its the same.. SILENT, the little AM1 doesn’t even make the PS fan run.
Research registering with MS as an OEM, might have to send them some paperwork but that should give you access to the 8.1 bing free option.
Linux, ugh no gota go windows you give any normal person a linux machine and they are going to hound you to no end wondering what the hell to do.
windows8sale.com seems to be a damn cheap windows option, you can also hunt some OEM keys on ebay.
“Research registering with MS
“Research registering with MS as an OEM, might have to send them some paperwork but that should give you access to the 8.1 bing free option”
I wish it was that simple. Licenses for Win+Bing are given out by Microsoft project by project, for approved “Cheap enough” products. The average metric is “If the cost of OS would be 40% or more of the devices basic cost, then Microsoft will CONSIDER granting Win+Bing access” It, just like windows 7 starter, is only avaliable to large companys with large voices who can make a worth while argument as to why it would be in m$’s best interest to provide OS for free.
agh, didn’t know they were
agh, didn’t know they were that strict on it.
well then the above should be your cheapest way to get windows, even 7 is only 39.00 now. Those prices are pretty close to what OEMs buy from MS.
that should say built not
that should say built not bought, that’s embarising
5350 is a good chip!
5350 is a good chip!