Things that make you go hmmmm, NVIDIA edition

Subject: General Tech | October 7, 2013 - 10:46 AM |
Tagged: nvidia, linux, microsoft, open source

If you haven't heard the accusations flying over the possible scenarios that lead up to Origin PC dropping AMD cards from all their machines you can catch up at The Tech Report.  They keep any speculation to a minimum unlike other sites but the key point is the claims of overheating and stability issues, something that apparently only Origin has encountered.  If they had stuck with mentioning the frame pacing in Crossfire and 4K/mulitmonitor issue it would be understandable that they not sell AMD cards in systems designed for that usage but dropping them altogether is enough to start rumours and conspiracy theories across the interwebs.  Winning a place in the Steam Machine was great for NVIDIA but at no time did they imply that AMD was unworthy, they merely didn't win the contract.

Today some oil was tossed on the fire with the revelation that NVIDIA is specifically limiting the functionality of its hardware on Linux.  Just after we praised their release of documentation for Nouveau, their open sourced driver, we find out from a post at The Inquirer that NVIDIA limits the number of monitors used in Linux to three so as not to outdo their functionality in Windows.  For a brief moment it seemed that NVIDIA was willing to cooperate with the open source and Linux communities but apparently that moment is all we will have and once again NVIDIA proves that it is willing bow to pressure from Microsoft.

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"According to a forum poster at the Nvidia Developer Zone, the v310 version of the drivers for Basemosaic has reduced the number of monitors a user can connect simultaneously to three."

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Source: The Inquirer
October 7, 2013 | 01:03 PM - Posted by mAxius

way better explanation of the origin pc saga here http://semiaccurate.com/2013/10/05/much-nvidia-pay-origin-pc-drop-amd/ yes folks nvidia paid them to drop amd gpu's you can still get amd cpu's from them...

October 8, 2013 | 03:12 PM - Posted by nobody special (not verified)

So just like AMD paid to get Mantle into Battlefield 4 for 8 million, excluding NV from the same optimizations right? And charlies story proves nothing (as usual, just someone told me this, and a flying pig told me that etc).

Did you complain about AMD paying EA for special treatment? ;) They all do this, but AMD just can't afford as much of it at that price.

Also that company isn't alone.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052184/whats-behind-origin-pcs-decision-...
2nd company shows almost twice the failure rate on AMD. That kind of lends credence to what the Origin guys said right? That's nearly twice the RMA crap to deal with.

They are pretty clear they didn't get what they wanted from AMD, proper samples, drivers on time etc for fixes, etc. Note he says all the high end rigs that show up an pcworld from other makers have NV only too. Bach from Puget, also noted the support and marketing help from NV was superior. So two vendors saying reasons to dump, validating Origin at least to some degree. Failures and support, drivers, all cited.
"Bach also wrote that he believed Nvidia’s marketing team is superior to AMD’s, as is its engineering and sales support for resellers. "

So it's not just Origin then. Puget might not have dumped them but are fully admitting they are not as good.

October 8, 2013 | 05:16 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Sounds familiar.

Nvidia spent 5 million on Ubisoft deal
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/32693-nvidia-spends-5-million-on-ubiso...

As far as Origin they are promoting Windows 8.1. How can they provide there own customers with full Windows 8.1 features when none of the Nvidia cards support DX 11.2. GK104 is still stuck in DX 11.0. GK110 is still using DX 11.1.

Clueless buyers ?

October 9, 2013 | 03:33 AM - Posted by Klimax (not verified)

Using Charlie as an accurate source is funny... (he is neither (semi)accurate nor unbiased or trustworthy)

October 7, 2013 | 03:13 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Calm down its no different if I were a review site and after writing several articles on a certain vendor while ignoring issues of another all of a sudden the majority of my adds come from the vendors whos product is shown in a favorable light.

or asking for public donations for a "Studio" knowing the majority of the funding will come from a certain direction.

Just don't question my integrity because as long as I act goofy and a hipster I can say I have credibility.

October 7, 2013 | 04:17 PM - Posted by Jeremy Hellstrom

huh?

October 7, 2013 | 06:27 PM - Posted by snook

pcper shits on AMD to get funding from Nvidia, is his stupid point.

October 7, 2013 | 06:19 PM - Posted by snook

your "credibility" died when anonymous is your user name.

ham-fisted dig that it was.

October 7, 2013 | 06:24 PM - Posted by snook

The lesson to be learned is this: competition keeps moves like this in check to a degree.

If Intel and Nvidia win outright against AMD. This will be mild compared to the assfucking those two companies will put on consumers.

Likewise if AMD cornered either market, all the fanboys from each camp, wont enjoy the lube less sodomy that follows.

October 7, 2013 | 06:29 PM - Posted by snook

thanks for the article jeremy

October 8, 2013 | 03:47 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Toasty...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-crossfire-overheat,35...

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