SEIKI SE50UY04 50-in 4K 3840x2160 TV Unboxing and Preview

Subject: General Tech, Graphics Cards, Displays | April 18, 2013 - 08:52 PM |
Tagged: video, seiki, se50UY04, hdtv, hdmi 1.4, displays, 4k, 3840x2160

This just in!  We have a 4K TV in the PC Perspective Offices!

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While we are still working on the ability to test graphics card performance at this resolution with our Frame Rating capture system, we decided to do a live stream earlier today as we unboxed, almost dropped and then eventually configured our new 4K TV. 

The TV in question?  A brand new SEIKI SE50UY04 50-in 3840x2160 ready display.  Haven't heard of it?  Neither have we.  I picked it up over the weekend from TigerDirect for $1299, though it actually a bit higher now at $1499.

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The TV itself is pretty unassuming and other than looking for the 4K label on the box you'd be hard pressed to discern it from other displays.  It DID come with a blue, braided UHD-ready HDMI cable, so there's that.

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One point worth noting is that the stand on the TV is pretty flimsy; there was definitely wobble after installation and setup.

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Connecting the TV to our test system was pretty easy - only a single HDMI cable was required and the GeForce GTX 680s in SLI we happened to have on our test bed recognized it as a 3840x2160 capable display.  Keep in mind that you are limited to a refresh rate of 30 Hz though due to current limitations of HDMI 1.4.  The desktop was clear and sharper and if you like screen real estate...this has it. 

The first thing we wanted to try was some 4K video playback and we tried YouTube videos, some downloaded clips we found scattered across the Internet and a couple of specific examples I had been saving.  Isn't that puppy cute?  It was by far the best picture I had seen on a TV that close up - no other way to say it.

We did have issues with video playback in some cases due to high bit rates.  In one case we had a YUV uncompressed file that was hitting our SSD so hard on read speeds that we saw choppiness.  H.265 save us!

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And of course we demoed some games as well - Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Skyrim and Tomb Raider.  Each was able to run at 3840x2160 without any complaints or INI hacks.  They all looked BEAUTIFUL when in a still position but we did notice some flickering on the TV that might be the result of the 120 Hz interpolation and possibly the "dynamic luminance control" feature that SEIKI has. 

We'll definitely test some more on this in the coming days to see if we can find a solution as I know many PC gamers are going to be excited about the possibility of using this as a gaming display!  We are working on a collection of benchmarks on some of the higher end graphics solutions like the GeForce TITAN, GTX 680s, HD 7990 and HD 7970s!

If you want to check out the full experience of our unboxing and first testing, check out the full live stream archived below!!

 

April 18, 2013 | 09:00 PM - Posted by Kusanagi (not verified)

can you disable the 120hz and the luminance control?

April 18, 2013 | 09:08 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

I don't know about the 120 Hz, didn't see a setting.

As for the luminance stuff, there is a setting, but it didn't seem to DO anything...

April 24, 2013 | 02:44 AM - Posted by Nater (not verified)

One thing to maybe look at is when the color is set to Dynamic Mode. Usually a lot of TV's sometimes turn off the Advanced Picture section when Dynamic Mode color mode is enabled.

Then you might get to 120hz motion settings.

May 13, 2013 | 04:28 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

did you try using the vga input on the tv directly from the computer, bypassing hdmi? Would this bypass the 30hz limitation? thanks

May 15, 2013 | 12:25 PM - Posted by beginner713 (not verified)

The picture tells the story itself, so good that it is useless to say any thing about the picture.keep it up.
personal statement editing service

May 13, 2013 | 07:22 PM - Posted by Kusanagi (not verified)

Damn. that bites.

April 18, 2013 | 09:01 PM - Posted by salesATbossrigsDOTcom (not verified)

Ryan, we sell this very same model for a bit less. Will have some stock here soon. Just saying.

April 18, 2013 | 09:07 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

Hmmm, let me know!  Do you have a contact at the company as well?  I have some questions.

April 21, 2013 | 09:06 AM - Posted by Vern knight (not verified)

Is it possible you could let me know when yo have stock of this tv

Regards Vern

April 18, 2013 | 09:05 PM - Posted by AlexP (not verified)

Can you overclock the tv?

April 18, 2013 | 10:02 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

So is better to wait for a new hdmi version to get 4K with 60fps?

April 18, 2013 | 10:21 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

That's going to be in 2014 I think...

April 19, 2013 | 02:37 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I'm pretty sure HDMI 2.0 is supposed to come out this year.

April 18, 2013 | 10:14 PM - Posted by Holyneo (not verified)

I could see some screen tearing, possible runt frames showing up as well. Hahahaha

April 18, 2013 | 10:21 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

Tearing because we didn't have Vsync on initially, but yes, there may be some issues at this high resolutions!

April 19, 2013 | 10:33 AM - Posted by Holyneo (not verified)

Just teasing... I'm just jealous :)

April 18, 2013 | 10:40 PM - Posted by James Cho (not verified)

I ordered this monitor a couple days ago.

Which GeForce Video cards would be able to support 3840x2160 at 30 Hz over HDMI? In particular with the GTX 650 support this mode?

April 18, 2013 | 11:51 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

I think anything in the GTX 600 series will work.

April 20, 2013 | 12:32 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Thanks,

I'm getting confusing messages from NVidia support: First they said that 3840x2160 at 30 Hz is supported by:

* GTX 650 Ti
* GTX 650 Ti BOOST
* GTX TITAN

They said that GTX 650 and the GTX 660 did not support this. I'm very confused. I just ordered a full CPU system for this monitor and will be disappointed if the video card does not work with this monitor.

April 23, 2013 | 03:11 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

He should try it with 2 7970's so we can see how screwy they are, what a hassle it is to setup, and how they constantly crash out and can't stretch to screen correctly, CF undoes itself and it's starts running in single card mode, he gets the corner mouse cursor bug, then the grey screen of death...

Yeah I'd love to see amd cf live setup... that would be entertaining.

April 18, 2013 | 10:52 PM - Posted by RoboGeoff (not verified)

This will be excellent for porn

April 18, 2013 | 11:51 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

I dont know, surely there is a point where too much resolution is reached for that...

April 19, 2013 | 02:24 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I don't know some of us love them stretch marks. Takes the Barbie out of This Ain't Barbie XXX Parody.

April 18, 2013 | 11:31 PM - Posted by D1RTYD1Z619

What about porn? It's one monitor benchmark that always gets overlooked.

April 18, 2013 | 11:45 PM - Posted by marz40k (not verified)

the dimming of the screen is the LED back light i have the same thing going on with my Samsung 40" TV i only seem to see it more will playing fps games its like the 100HZ motion plus turns it self on but it is not on in the TV setings

April 18, 2013 | 11:52 PM - Posted by Ryan Shrout

That is kind of the impression I am getting right now as well.  I am hoping to find access to a service menu so I can try to turn that stuff all the way off and see what changes.

May 15, 2013 | 10:54 AM - Posted by hdantman (not verified)

Service Menu access: Press the Menu Key, then 0000. Be Careful.

April 19, 2013 | 12:08 AM - Posted by marz40k (not verified)

it could be in the advanced settings menu if it is like the Samsung in the video it was locked out put the TV to 1080p resolution it should let you in the menu then with my Samsung it would not let me in it using monitor resolutions hope that helps

April 19, 2013 | 03:53 AM - Posted by SetiroN

"many PC gamers are going to be excited about the possibility of using this as a gaming display"
really? people are looking forward to gaming at 30Hz?

April 20, 2013 | 04:21 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

hdmi 2.0 will support over 30hz for 2160p, and it's coming out this year so...

April 19, 2013 | 05:41 AM - Posted by Nirvi

Video rocked

April 19, 2013 | 09:31 AM - Posted by John H (not verified)

Even with the 30hz limitation, this is still exciting due to the price. Look forward to hearing PC Perspective's take on 4K resolution and gaming going forward..

.. Do games actually scale with this resolution? (only recently do games really seem to scale from 1080p-1600p due to texture quality)
.. Is the panel quality compromised vs. an IPS 1440p/1600p display to meet the pricing?
.. How does 1440p/1600p content scale up? (or other resolutions. I guess playing a game at 1920x1080 still looks great due to 2:1 scaling?)
.. etc.

Keep up the great work PCPer!

April 19, 2013 | 10:10 AM - Posted by NickBen (not verified)

Nice video.

Are you seeing any benefit to using the Nvidia Quadro 10bit output for 1 Billion colors?

or- are you getting 10 bit over HDMI?

April 19, 2013 | 01:34 PM - Posted by Jun (not verified)

Could the shimmering/flickering on the details could be due to the sharpness setting? When you chose the dynamic preset it got bumped up to 65 which might be too high.

April 19, 2013 | 03:45 PM - Posted by Fishbait

Very awesome video, I hope you can fix the flicker cause it would be a shame if you couldn't as the panel looks (as far as the video I saw) perfect

April 19, 2013 | 03:55 PM - Posted by Danne (not verified)

DP>Hdmi adapter should work with this. 3-way titan sli with 3 of these badboys would be cool tho

June 18, 2013 | 03:43 PM - Posted by NijaFetus (not verified)

that's exactly what I intend to do.

April 19, 2013 | 10:35 PM - Posted by robert (not verified)

Which cards support 4k at 60hz over display port? Is there a way to use a HDMI Y splitter like the manual said to push two HDMI's at once to get full 4k at 60Hz? Can you guys play a little with that and see if you get the monitor to work with that? thanks

April 20, 2013 | 02:10 AM - Posted by undermined

no single HDMI 1.4 port can do 3840x2160 @60hz.. ever

Single port is exclusive to DisplayPort 1.2

HDMI 2.0 might do it in 2014 but talk is it might take until mid 2014 not early.

6G-SDI is spec'd to handle 4K too but that will be for broadcast displays and is just getting announced.

All the LG 84", the Sony 84", 65", 55" and the Samsung 85" are 30hz only too for HDMI inputs since that is the HDMI 1.4 standard.

The only 4096x2160 or 3840x2160 displays that might do 60hz are the Sharp 32" Igzo over DisplayPort and the 3 Ezio models.

I don't have any info about the Sony OLED reference screens yet but I'd guess they'll have 6G-SDI but still 30hz over HDMI.

On top of all that is 2 cable chaining is normally Quadro or FirePro exclusive and doesn't work for gaming or even desktop ATM unless the display has extra hardware like the $36,000 USD Ezio DuraView.

Hands on so far over at reduser forums says 1080p looks like junk but PC driven content is fine, kinda like 1080p was for a long time but someAVR's out since last year or before will pass 3840x2160 or upconvert to "4K" so this seiki might be a good deal still if you research your setup, and someone can get into the service menu and see if you can calibrate it.

Otherwise it would be a lot better to wait until 2nd or 3rd gen or at least until Sony, LG and Samsung react to this models pricing and at least move under $4,000 USD for a 55" or until Amazon starts shipping them too after the 25th of April in case you get a lemon.

April 20, 2013 | 04:23 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

On January 8, 2013, HDMI Licensing, LLC announced that the next HDMI version is being worked on by the 83 members of the HDMI Forum and that it is expected to be released in the first half of 2013.

April 20, 2013 | 04:23 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

On January 8, 2013, HDMI Licensing, LLC announced that the next HDMI version is being worked on by the 83 members of the HDMI Forum and that it is expected to be released in the first half of 2013.

April 20, 2013 | 04:48 AM - Posted by Danne (not verified)

Theres also the Sony 4k projector with dp

What is the reason they dont fit dp1.2 on these tvs ?

April 20, 2013 | 11:05 AM - Posted by NickBen (not verified)

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?98027-1299-Seiki-UHDTV-50-qu...

Red's president commented on this seiki set yesterday

"Obviously first thing we did was hook it up to REDRAY and it looked pretty good."

Since they work with Red content on 4K sets and projectors from $25,000 to over $100,000, it's encouraging that at this price a set can look OK today.

Just as with anything, 2nd and 3rd gen sets will always have better features, as they are still releasing HDTV sets with new features long after a decade, so as always, buy what's good for you at your budget and timing...

April 20, 2013 | 11:09 AM - Posted by NickBen (not verified)

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?98027-1299-Seiki-UHDTV-50-qu...

Red's president commented on this seiki set yesterday

"Obviously first thing we did was hook it up to REDRAY and it looked pretty good."

Since they work with Red content on 4K sets and projectors from $25,000 to over $100,000, it's encouraging that this set looks OK today.

Just as with anything, 2nd and 3rd gen sets will always have MORE features, as they are still releasing HDTV sets with more features long after a decade, so as always, buy what's good for you at your budget and timing...

April 20, 2013 | 09:46 AM - Posted by Michael (not verified)

the reflections look really strong on the pics. can you say how this screen compares to displays of the established manufacturers? also, does this display have an anti-reflective coating at all? or was this dropped due to price concerns?

April 20, 2013 | 10:55 AM - Posted by NickBen (not verified)

Red confirmed the Redray player is compatible with this Seiki set, which is very good news as they have the deepest library of 4K content on the planet from Red Camera users and movies shot on Red cameras like the Hobbit and Spiderman

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?98027-1299-Seiki-UHDTV-50-qu...

Have you found any way to drive it with 4K at 60hz or above?

April 21, 2013 | 12:00 AM - Posted by Tony (not verified)

Thanks for the nice review on this SeiKi TV.

I wonder will you able to measure the power consumption at 20%, 50% and 80% brightness.

Is the text sharp? If small font text can be seen clearly, then this SeiKi TV can be used as desktop monitor especially if the power consumption is low at 50% brightness.

April 21, 2013 | 05:34 AM - Posted by Mountainlifter

Why doesn't it have a Dual Link Dvi input implemented to capitalize on the 120hz panel refresh rate? Why be limited by 30Hz Hdmi?
Am I missing something? Or will even the Dvi be limited for such high resolutions?

June 17, 2013 | 11:33 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Pretty sure Dual Link DVI is limitted to ~30Hz at 4k too.

April 21, 2013 | 07:35 AM - Posted by awgamer (not verified)

With the 30Hz limitation, I think a lot of people would be interested in hearing it's scaling ability, specifically whether it can scale 2560x1440/1600@60Hz(or options being limited to 720/1080p?) and how well.

April 21, 2013 | 07:43 AM - Posted by FernanDK (not verified)

I'm assuming the 30 hertz limitation is a locked to the display not with the I/O. Cuz if the display was capable of 4k@60hertz they would simply put a displayport1.2 that can handle 4k@60hz and the problem would be solved...

but this is all assumption, do you have any concrete data about the display?

April 21, 2013 | 01:02 PM - Posted by robert (not verified)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T7pdrOipuI

There is a link to a youtube video where they used the sharp 32k with a radeon to get to 60HZ by joining to inputs at 30Hz. At least that is what I got from the video. Can you guys try something like this? I would love for this to be my next monitor but that is the only requirement (60Hz for gaming). Also need to follow up on that flicker thing you were talking about.

April 21, 2013 | 06:34 PM - Posted by robert (not verified)

so double checked and they did a single display port with a radeon and it work but had to use eyefinity setting on computer for monitor to recognize it. Can you do the same thing... 2 hdmi to tv on eyefinity and do side by side screen setting for full 60Hz? thanks

April 21, 2013 | 07:07 PM - Posted by Spawn (not verified)

I received mine on Friday along with a Onkyo TX-NR616 7.2-Channel THX receiver for 4K upscaling of PS3\360\SAT. I hooked it up as my primary moniter driven by 2x GTX660 SC SLI. I was very happy to see it had a semi glossy screen which produces nice contrast. I ran some full 4K files including Timescapes and Sintel which looked Amazing. I was able to run a few games at full rez but the framerate was a little to low, so I setup a custom res of 2560x1440 at 31Hz which runs all my games at minimun 30fps. Playing Bioshock Infinite at that resolution was mindblowing coming from 1920x1080. The Onkyo receiver does a good job of upconverting my Sat (1080i) and PS3 (1080p) to full 4K. I am using it as my daily PC monitor at 2560x1440 from about 3ft away,everything I run from the PC looks great on it.The only thing I wish it had is 3D, hope this information helps.

April 21, 2013 | 08:58 PM - Posted by awgamer (not verified)

How did you setup a custom res and why only 31 instead of 60hz?

April 21, 2013 | 09:19 PM - Posted by Spawn (not verified)

That resolution seems like a sweet spot as far as day to day use for me and yes it's scaled but at 3840x2160 everything was just too small.

April 21, 2013 | 09:19 PM - Posted by Spawn (not verified)

That resolution seems like a sweet spot as far as day to day use for me and yes it's scaled but at 3840x2160 everything was just too small.

April 21, 2013 | 08:59 PM - Posted by awgamer (not verified)

Also, the 2560x1440 scaled to full screen?

April 21, 2013 | 08:59 PM - Posted by awgamer (not verified)

Also, the 2560x1440 scaled to full screen?

April 21, 2013 | 09:21 PM - Posted by Robert (not verified)

Can someone confirm or rule out a side by side picture function on this tv? This would allow a 60hz full resolution game with eyefinity or sli.

April 21, 2013 | 09:34 PM - Posted by Spawn (not verified)

That resolution seems like a sweet spot as far as day to day use, gaming, web browsing and working. Yes it's scaled but at 3840x2160 everything was just too small. I am very happy with it, 30hz is not an issue for me as I played most of my games in 3D at 24hz. I do notice the flashing issue at 3840x2160 on the youtube 4K videos but not as much on the Timescapes & Sintel 4K videos. I do not see anything in the menu to split the display like the Sharp 32k by joining to inputs.

April 21, 2013 | 11:15 PM - Posted by awgamer (not verified)

"30hz is not an issue for me"

You couldn't get it to do 60hz?

April 21, 2013 | 11:24 PM - Posted by Spawn (not verified)

No, I could only get it to 31hz as HDMI 1.4b only does 30hz at 3840x2160 until HDMI 2.0 gets released.

April 22, 2013 | 12:53 AM - Posted by katamari (not verified)

TN panel?

April 22, 2013 | 05:45 AM - Posted by Tony (not verified)

Should be Super MVA panel from Chi Mei Innolux

http://www.panelook.com/V500DK1-LS1_Innolux_50_LCM_parameter_17279.html

April 22, 2013 | 11:14 AM - Posted by freespace303 (not verified)

What's required to do this resolution at a higher native hertz? Displayport? Thunderbolt?

April 22, 2013 | 12:11 PM - Posted by awgamer (not verified)

> No, I could only get it to 31hz as HDMI 1.4b only does 30hz at 3840x2160 until HDMI 2.0 gets released.

If you're displaying at a lower resolution with the monitor upscaling the image to full screen, you're not doing 3840x2160 across HDMI.

April 22, 2013 | 12:25 PM - Posted by Spawn (not verified)

I am running it at 2560x1440 31hz custom res through Nvidia control panel for my day to day stuff and then change it to 3840x2160 30hz to watch 4K content. The 2560x1440 res is perfect for gaming and basic web browsing etc. on SLI GTX660 SC's.

May 5, 2013 | 03:06 PM - Posted by Skye (not verified)

So how are you getting this TV to work at All ?

I have 2 gtx690s in sli and currently have 2 1080p 47" in a dual screen setup...
I do a lot of digital design stuff and was absolutely thrilled that these monitors were sub 5 grand and jumped on them ...
only to find out I can't get them to work ... 8(

I am currently using the DVI to Hdmi adapters that came with the cards, but I can't get the Tvs to work at full Rez, not even at 30Hz ..
they are detecting as 720p native rez and I can set them to 1080p but both look fuzzy as its not the true Rez.

What cables or adapters are you using ??

May 5, 2013 | 03:06 PM - Posted by Skye (not verified)

So how are you getting this TV to work at All ?

I have 2 gtx690s in sli and currently have 2 1080p 47" in a dual screen setup...
I do a lot of digital design stuff and was absolutely thrilled that these monitors were sub 5 grand and jumped on them ...
only to find out I can't get them to work ... 8(

I am currently using the DVI to Hdmi adapters that came with the cards, but I can't get the Tvs to work at full Rez, not even at 30Hz ..
they are detecting as 720p native rez and I can set them to 1080p but both look fuzzy as its not the true Rez.

What cables or adapters are you using ??

April 22, 2013 | 01:08 PM - Posted by awgamer (not verified)

Have you tried a custom res with a higher refresh?

April 22, 2013 | 02:25 PM - Posted by Spawn (not verified)

I tried but 31hz was as high as it would go. I use a high DPI mouse and don't even notice the lower refresh while surfing or playing games. It depends on what's more important to you Bigger or Faster. Bigger is better for me :)I just wish it was 3D or that another manufacturer would announce an affordable 3D 4K tv for around $1500.

April 24, 2013 | 11:12 AM - Posted by Pat (not verified)

how well does this work in non gaming situations I am a power user running multiple desk top apps on dual 24 inch monitors 1920 x 1200. Do you see this as a possible upgrade? It would occupy the same amount of horizontal space and be taller .... effectively nearly doubling my screen area.

April 25, 2013 | 09:20 AM - Posted by Great_Big_Abyss (not verified)

Why can't they put a DVI-D on there? Would solve the limitations of HDMI 1.4...!

April 25, 2013 | 11:23 AM - Posted by jeremy (not verified)

Hi guys can you run Monitor Asset Manger from Entech on your screen? here are the results I get.. Does not seem to really be 4k.

Monitor
Model name............... SE50IY04
Manufacturer............. SEK
Plug and Play ID......... SEK0000
Serial number............ 1
Manufacture date......... 2013, ISO week 9
Filter driver............ None
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital (DVI)
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1100 x 620 mm (49.7 in)
Power management......... Standby
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Reserved - 0x00)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.650 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.290 - Gy 0.610
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.272 - Wy 0.275
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 24-60kHz
Vertical scan range...... 50-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 110MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1440x900p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1440x900" 106.500 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 4/25/2013
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0100
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

Raw data
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12,45,46,AD,CE,00,81,40,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,
55,00,B9,88,21,00,00,1E,9A,29,A0,D0,51,84,22,30,50,98,36,00,B9,88,21,00,00,1C,00,00,00,FD,00,32,
4B,18,3C,0B,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,45,35,30,49,59,30,34,0A,20,20,20,20,01,1E

April 29, 2013 | 11:20 AM - Posted by traumadisaster

Just ordered one. interested in lots of follow up. Will u be posting in new articles soon. I dont want to miss it. Thanks for being on the bleeding edge with this early preview.

May 1, 2013 | 04:15 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Coming soon: Lord of the Rings, Extended 4K Edition Trilogy on 24 disks...

May 4, 2013 | 10:06 AM - Posted by Chad Dyle (not verified)

I'm seriously considering buying this, but I wouldn't be able to connect it to my iMac right now and edit. I have a Black Magic 4K camera on preorder and wanted a 4K set to be able to view the final edit. I think the best part about this TV is whatever the shortcomings are, all of the other TV manufacturers know that there is an inexpensive option for all of us. I'm sure that generation 2 of this TV will fix a lot of issues.

May 5, 2013 | 03:07 PM - Posted by Skye (not verified)

So how are you getting this TV to work at All ?

I have 2 gtx690s in sli and currently have 2 1080p 47" in a dual screen setup...
I do a lot of digital design stuff and was absolutely thrilled that these monitors were sub 5 grand and jumped on them ...
only to find out I can't get them to work ... 8(

I am currently using the DVI to Hdmi adapters that came with the cards, but I can't get the Tvs to work at full Rez, not even at 30Hz ..
they are detecting as 720p native rez and I can set them to 1080p but both look fuzzy as its not the true Rez.

What cables or adapters are you using ??

May 8, 2013 | 05:46 AM - Posted by drbaltazar (not verified)

Till Microsoft fix color management (or someone create a non-crt sRGB that would fix scrgb issue I dont see the point of getting this .the problem aren't the screen the problem is black scaling white Scaling and gamma.color .org supply a partial fix black are non scaled or scaled depending on the need. White scale tho is still a problem and I ain't even started on color precision.if say you got a value of 255 and your screen can only do 252 (all unit after CRT are like this)the scale isn't in 255 increment within the say 4 to 251 avail range .add percepetual and you get the awfully game image we see

May 8, 2013 | 06:01 AM - Posted by drbaltazar (not verified)

You scanned dvi .its the HDMI supplied you need or better.also this unit is ycbcr.for movie it will need to e set in graphic card at ycbcr 4.2.2 and for game at ycbcr 4.4.4.try getting the ycbcr from seiki or Sony(make sure you use the color profile seiki recommend .do not use scrgb .the sRGB part isn't fixed yet .get ycbcr from Sony instead (this unit is probably non-srgb)(mean ycbcr)this should avail you with awesome graphic and video quality.

May 8, 2013 | 06:09 AM - Posted by drbaltazar (not verified)

Might need to communicate directly with seiki and mention you want to game with this unit they ll say what to do and tweak.might even provide additional software.(write to them in their own language (bing translate)and also in English to make sure there is no misinterpretation.corp usually supply the most basic software but have ton of tweak avail most of the time when asked.

May 8, 2013 | 11:37 AM - Posted by drbaltazar (not verified)

Ok !i think i found how tout fixe the quality issue I have .I all test tonight.basicly the gamma as to be set at GPU to 2.2 !suppodly a linear vs non-linear mathematical issue at improper time(GPU does this the proper way (why do they call a GPU a renderer tho )anyway .if you still have this screen around might want to test this (only game was affected for me )would be nice if you did a short video.keep up the good work pcper crew.

May 8, 2013 | 05:40 PM - Posted by Ro (not verified)

I got this tv yesterday, its pretty sweet but I was back and forth with NVidia and we found out that the tv needs a firmware update that fixes the 120 hz / 120 Fps Flicker Glitch that goes on, seems to also help if u switch to its native resolution at 768p and then delete all made custom resolutions in NVidia settings and then going from 768p to 1080p 120hz it will accept it and seems not glitch as much as far as I Can see now, also if your recording with fraps or action you might want to shut those aps down. It does support 120hz though. But I think a firmware update or driver update or even hdmi 2.0 will maybe fix the flickering / flickering when using fraps or action Im using 1 GTX 660 and planning to do dual sli gtx 660's to get 60 FPS on 4k, right now im pulling 30FPS steady on 4k with just one gtx 660 2GB. Im also using windows 8 64 bit, Also maybe windows service pack / new windows os might fix this issue who knows. bad that's the bad part about the tv and if you go to seiki's firmware section they do NOT firmware upgrade yet, I guess we just have to wait and see. But overall im happy with it. Also there is not much flickering when your gaming. Here is my report on the monitor though

Model name............... SE50IY04
Manufacturer............. SEK
Plug and Play ID......... SEK0000
Serial number............ 1
Manufacture date......... 2013, ISO week 9
Filter driver............ None
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital (DVI)
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1100 x 620 mm (49.7 in)
Power management......... Standby
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Reserved - 0x00)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.650 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.290 - Gy 0.610
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.272 - Wy 0.275
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 24-60kHz
Vertical scan range...... 50-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 110MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1440x900p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1440x900" 106.500 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 5/8/2013
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x4600
Operating system......... 6.2.9200.2

-------------------------------------------------

Also Monitor Asset Manager and refresh rate multi tool are helpful tools

May 8, 2013 | 05:40 PM - Posted by Ro (not verified)

I got this tv yesterday, its pretty sweet but I was back and forth with NVidia and we found out that the tv needs a firmware update that fixes the 120 hz / 120 Fps Flicker Glitch that goes on, seems to also help if u switch to its native resolution at 768p and then delete all made custom resolutions in NVidia settings and then going from 768p to 1080p 120hz it will accept it and seems not glitch as much as far as I Can see now, also if your recording with fraps or action you might want to shut those aps down. It does support 120hz though. But I think a firmware update or driver update or even hdmi 2.0 will maybe fix the flickering / flickering when using fraps or action Im using 1 GTX 660 and planning to do dual sli gtx 660's to get 60 FPS on 4k, right now im pulling 30FPS steady on 4k with just one gtx 660 2GB. Im also using windows 8 64 bit, Also maybe windows service pack / new windows os might fix this issue who knows. bad that's the bad part about the tv and if you go to seiki's firmware section they do NOT firmware upgrade yet, I guess we just have to wait and see. But overall im happy with it. Also there is not much flickering when your gaming. Here is my report on the monitor though

Model name............... SE50IY04
Manufacturer............. SEK
Plug and Play ID......... SEK0000
Serial number............ 1
Manufacture date......... 2013, ISO week 9
Filter driver............ None
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital (DVI)
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1100 x 620 mm (49.7 in)
Power management......... Standby
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Reserved - 0x00)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.650 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.290 - Gy 0.610
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.272 - Wy 0.275
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 24-60kHz
Vertical scan range...... 50-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 110MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1440x900p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1440x900" 106.500 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 5/8/2013
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x4600
Operating system......... 6.2.9200.2

-------------------------------------------------

Also Monitor Asset Manager and refresh rate multi tool are helpful tools

May 9, 2013 | 05:54 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Props on the shirt with Elephants and the ATAT!

May 9, 2013 | 10:30 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

would this tv be good for playing xbox 360 (without hdmi) on it, or is there a better tv out there for a better deal? please respond

May 11, 2013 | 02:30 PM - Posted by Tim Creed (not verified)

Leo Laporte the Tech Guy just gave this article a shout out on his radio show! I just might pick this up.

June 10, 2013 | 11:59 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

a Nvidia Quadro 600 will run this at 3840x2160 @30 hz if you make a custom resolution using the Nvidia control panel.
Desktop is a little grainy. However was able to calibrate the display and pull up greyscale images with fairly good contrast ratios.

June 16, 2013 | 08:51 AM - Posted by Dan (not verified)

Can someone identify the pixel pitch on this monitor? Guessing 0.27mm range?

June 20, 2013 | 07:50 PM - Posted by Ed (not verified)

Seiki 4K tv as computer monitor?

I am looking for a large computer monitor to work with Photoshop, Zbrush, Maya, 3D Coat....
It would be great to work with large Maya port views....

My rig???
Processor: Overclocked 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4930MX (8MB Cache, up to 4.3GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
Operating System: Windows 8, 64-bit, English
Display: 18.4" WLED FHD (1920 X 1080) TrueLife Display
Memory: 32GB Dual Channel DDR3L at 1600MHz
Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 780M with 4GB GDDR5 - NVIDIA SLI® Enabled

June 24, 2013 | 09:05 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Can you measure the input lag with a Leo Bodnar device or with the CRT method?

July 9, 2013 | 09:17 PM - Posted by Amtrak (not verified)

Which 7990 radeon did you use for the testing?

July 28, 2013 | 06:08 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

on the 50 inch Seiki 4k monitor tv how was the image with Blu ray progressive scan it to 4k quality

August 7, 2013 | 05:29 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I purchased the seiki 4k tv and a Onkyo TX-NR616 just recently to see how the onkyo 4k upscaling looks. receiver was able to upscale to 1080p but when selecting 4K upscaling my seiki just gets a blue screen. All the cables I tried were 1.4 and I also tried 1.4b cables. I also found an firmware update for the seiki and updated it successfully and still was not able to get the onkyo to upscale to 4k. The onkyo receiver had the latest firmware. After researching receivers on google I found that some onkyo's say 3840 x 2160 next to 4k upscaling and some like the model I have say 4096 x 2160 upscaling, But don't know if that's the issue because user spawn said it worked and he has the same receiver. I do want to say that I was able to get the 4k upscaling to work somehow but It only worked for a second or two then went back to blue screen. I also have a NVidia gtx 660 gpu and that displays 4k resolution fine but I do get flickering, also when I game I game on 1080 @ 90 hz (custom setting in NVidia control panel), anything higher than 90hz 1080p I get flickering, 120 hz looks nice but like I said theres flickering when going over 90 hz 1080p. Ive tried to upscale both bluray player and my cable box to 4k using onkyo and was unable to. I am returning the receiver and should be getting a call from seiki in the next few days about this issue. Also the custom resolutions of 90/hz and higher @ 1080p only works on a hdmi 1.4b cable that you can get on ebay.

August 7, 2013 | 05:38 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Also I would like to point out that other people have problems with onkyo 4k upscaling with seiki. As I found here http://forums.onkyousa.com/viewtopic.php?t=2150&p=7349 at the bottom of the page someone says theres a firmware update that fixes the issue but I tried the firmware update and still does not fix the issue with onkyo. I would just like to know if this is an onkyo or seiki issue as both are real cheap hardware compared to higher priced 4k TV's/Receivers.

August 11, 2013 | 08:04 PM - Posted by lo2027 (not verified)

hey
is this working with 3DVISION ?
or could you make a test ?

August 18, 2013 | 04:54 PM - Posted by ibra (not verified)

that's amazing

September 8, 2013 | 04:32 PM - Posted by Ccollins (not verified)

Good afternoon I've been weighing the purchase of the 65" 4k model seiki TV when its released how wad the resolution on 1080P bule ray content material since that is what I look at mostlyis it worth the purchase or should I get a 240 MHZ LED tv instead

September 27, 2013 | 11:33 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

wouldnt HDMI from audioquest support 120hz 4k for this 4K tv? audioquest Hdmi says it supports 4k at 120hz. the link is http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cinnamon-6-9-16-hdmi-cable/9510709.p;jsessio...
check it out yourself.

February 1, 2014 | 07:14 AM - Posted by technology news (not verified)

At this price tag, It looks amazing!

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