Rumor: VESA Might Have Accepted AMD's FreeSync

Subject: General Tech, Displays | April 6, 2014 - 02:41 AM |
Tagged: vesa, freesync, DisplayPort, amd

According to French website, hardware.fr, the VESA standards body has accepted AMD's proposal for FreeSync into an extension of the DisplayPort 1.2a standard. FreeSync is the standards-based answer to NVIDIA's G-Sync, a process for allowing the monitor to time itself according to its driving GPU. At CES 2014, AMD claimed that the technology was already in development to be used for mobile devices to save power (less frequent monitor refreshes).

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By presenting image to the user only when the work is complete, you can avoid "tearing" and latency. The tearing will be eliminated because the graphics card does not change the image being drawn by the monitor as it is trying to display it. The latency is eliminated because it does not need to wait until the monitor is ready (up to one-over-the maximum refresh rate of the monitor). It should also save power by reducing its refresh rate on slower scenes, such as an idle desktop, but that is less of a concern when you are plugged into a wall.

What does this mean? Nothing yet, really, except that a gigantic standards body seems to approve.

Source: Hardware.fr
April 6, 2014 | 03:00 AM - Posted by JohnGR

Let's hope this is going to happen. If it does in a year or two I am upgrading my monitor.
There is no way I am going to pay for a proprietary standard like G-Sync, but a universal standard, yes, I like it.

April 6, 2014 | 03:38 AM - Posted by Silver Sparrow

Well this is very encouraging. Only time now till this standard should be in the next round of 4k monitors. VRR is the one thing stopping me getting a 4k monitor since it's now £500 in the UK which is within decent 1440p monitor pricing. With a bit of hope by the time this standard is accepted and implemented 4k monitors are that little bit cheaper :)

April 6, 2014 | 03:58 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

This is cool. We wont be charged a huge markup.

April 6, 2014 | 07:07 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Well IMO , Gsync should not really be much more expensive than regular monitor , there no added hardware, monitor already come with timing controller , just different one. Should only be small price for IP name etc .
As with any new feature ,there going to raise price whether it G-sync, freesync or whatever , prices drop off after a while .

April 6, 2014 | 01:03 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

i very much doubt an increase in pricing, sure the 1st month maybe, but the ammount of player wanting to update their current monitor to displayport 1.2a will be huge, and that would drive prices down, because there is no licence for this, sure it adds value to gamers monitors, but for free, so if some manufacturer will choose to add value for margin, others will add it just to increase market share, and with the potential boom, cuts on prices, that at some point will forces manufacturer that add value to do it for free too.
as AMD said in other words, that G-sync was a scam, moving on a tech that is going to be a standard in few months( turned out 3 months) to make propritary eco-system, is not just dumb it's a clear scam, G-sync is not just dead, in the next months it will become a plague following nvidia.
it was one of the worst moves nvidia made for a long time

April 6, 2014 | 12:35 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Come on, Gsync is (several lines of enthusiasm), but when the technique is in it's way to become a standard "it means nothing"?

April 6, 2014 | 03:50 PM - Posted by Scott Michaud

... you omit the word "yet". This rumor means nothing at the moment, even if true, because this is a very early step. Pricing and availability of GPUs and monitors (the bits you can buy) has not been announced, mentioned, or even hinted, let alone concretely.

Personally, yes, I believe this has the potential to be a much bigger deal than G-Sync. I also wonder if the slow adoption of G-Sync monitors is related to this technology coming down the pipe. I could see display manufacturers wanting to use their own implementation rather than licensing an AIB from NVIDIA, and thus hold off until the standard is ratified. Then again, I can also see them being slow to announce new, and more varied, G-Sync monitors because of apathy and lacking respect for the PC gaming industry (possibly why ASUS was first out of the gate - they value us).

April 6, 2014 | 08:26 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I understand all this clearly. The catch is that your "yet" there is meaningless, except for hiding you shattering down the significance of this rumor, if true. You give no context for your analysis other than "Vesa is a gigantic standards body".

Your piece gain no substance from that last paragraph.

If you are giving your own analysis of this rumor (and you did, sir: what does this mean? > analysis), at least give an effort to instruct your readers as you should.

April 7, 2014 | 09:39 PM - Posted by Tim Verry

A gigantic standards body means that free-sync inclusion in future standards is a big deal but being a huge standards body it moves at a snail's pace.

April 6, 2014 | 08:55 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

well to me the major reason for the failure of G-sync is it's stupid price, what manufacturer would double the selling price of their monitors, what gamer would buy that with the prospect of a free tech like it in couple months, if i was making monitors, i would ask nvidia to buy the modified monitors from me before i put them on retail, that way if they dont sell, nvidia figures out what to do with them, and i think this is what happened.
in france asus monitor is 300€, the one with gsync is 600€, how can you have 150€ monitor selling for 450€?????? just stupid, no matter how fan boy you are, buying that is just stupid, beside i think nvdia doesnt hold the right on the technology, they are charging you for a minor modification and a brand name 300€.

April 7, 2014 | 02:38 AM - Posted by JohnGR

Who is going to buy a G-Sync monitor? That's the reason why manufacturers don't care. Because they know that the interest for the technology is there, but the interest in actually buying a monitor with G-Sync it isn't.
As for ASUS, it value us? Really? Nope. They value their business ties with Nvidia as much as with other companies that they are working or worked in the past. They where the only big manufacturer to made a tablet with VIA SoC (only to get sued from VIA proving that VIA has lost it completely).

April 6, 2014 | 12:35 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

hoped pcper would have an insider in vesa to confirm the news, still wondering how much time it takes from a standard modification by vesa untill it becomes available for the public, i hope it's not too long, and it's about time for AMD to inform us if we buy any today's monitor with 1.2a display port would it be 100% compatible with freesync implementation or is there more to it.
still thiking when amd and intel will update their drivers to unable freesync, Nvidia must feel pretty stupid enabling it too in their drivers, with the costumers who already bought the g-sync kit for 300$, would be a very awkward driver.

April 6, 2014 | 01:24 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

unrelated Note :
New AMD Radeon R9 295X, video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvL3BZzr4Io

and tech specifications leak here : http://thepcenthusiast.com/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-vesuvius-official-specifi...

April 6, 2014 | 02:47 PM - Posted by Kwaz

Jeez that was awful.

April 6, 2014 | 02:25 PM - Posted by Lithium (not verified)

nVIDIA rules
======================

and QUALCOMM was a part of AMD
hahahaha
aaaaaaaaaaa HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

April 6, 2014 | 04:35 PM - Posted by Scott Michaud

Qualcomm was not a part of AMD but the Qualcomm Adreno was formerly ATI Imageon. AMD sold that mobile phone and PDA GPU technology but kept its name. Feeling particularly trollish, I guess, Qualcomm chose a name which is an anagram of Radeon.

April 7, 2014 | 02:59 AM - Posted by Lithium (not verified)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno

I see
Morons didn`t see the potential

April 6, 2014 | 03:25 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

This proprietary shit on GPU's is getting old fast. Mantle > DirectX, PhysX, G-Sync, and the list goes on.

Just stop wasting R&D into stupid projects that wont go anywhere unless they can be used by everybody. Let the real competition be on the hardware/driver front. So much interesting stuff has gone wayside into the black hole of no-one-cares because of it.

April 7, 2014 | 02:17 AM - Posted by arbiter

Mantle is proprietary to you realize that? before you say its free for everyone including nvidia to use, well there is no SDK for it so its not.

April 7, 2014 | 02:47 AM - Posted by JohnGR

Nvidia will use it, but it will call it with the same name as everybody else. DirectX 12.

April 6, 2014 | 03:46 PM - Posted by Gregster

I am curious if a DP1.2a would be needed on the GPU for this to work, or if the current DP1.2 is all that is required.

April 6, 2014 | 06:07 PM - Posted by pdjblum

Guess nvidia never saw gsync as more than brief stop gap on sales of amd gpu's. If they thought it was the real deal they would have made the tech available for free as gsync monitor sales would have led to more nvidia gpu sales, which would have made up for their loses on the controller. I hope AMD pushes this free sync forward with more serious intent.

April 7, 2014 | 02:32 AM - Posted by renz (not verified)

so when can we expect AMD to demo freesync running real game? the monitor might not exist yet but surely they can show real game using v-sync using the demo unit they used back at CES

April 7, 2014 | 02:51 AM - Posted by JohnGR

If it doesn't become a standard in about.... never.
AMD can't promote sh!t (and I am an AMD fan saying that)

April 7, 2014 | 03:12 AM - Posted by pdjblum

Both companies are fucking with us because they can. I guess it is a love-hate relationship I have with these companies, but mostly hate lately. Love their products but not the false expectations they create to keep us away from the other guy.

April 7, 2014 | 03:37 AM - Posted by JohnGR

Nvidia here operates like a banker and AMD like a politician. Nvidia tries to sell us something free and AMD is selling hopes that something free is in it's way.

April 7, 2014 | 08:55 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I don't particularly mind how we get variable refresh-rate technology on our displays, but it's been badly needed for PC games for so long. I still applaud nvidia for making the panel manufacturers and everyone else get off their arse and do something. LCDs have never required a fixed refresh-rate, it's a holdover from legacy display tech and as AMD have shown, most of the pieces are there already. The display manufacturers just need to make scaler ASICs that support it.

April 7, 2014 | 11:49 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Freesync uses frame prediction and hasn't proven anything

G-sync syncs every single frame being pushed to monitor and has proven itself very effective.

April 7, 2014 | 11:50 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

people can complain about the extra hardware from nvidia but its required for perfect synchronization

freesync and g-sync are not alike

April 7, 2014 | 05:40 PM - Posted by Randal_46

Variable refresh rates are going to be required for good 4k monitor performance. This standard will become more important as better 4k monitors are released in the coming years.

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