Podcast #296 - NVIDIA's 337.50 Driver Improvements, Corsair H105, Intel Haswell Refresh details and more!

Subject: General Tech | April 17, 2014 - 02:58 PM |
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PC Perspective Podcast #296 - 04/17/2014

Join us this week as we discuss NVIDIA's 337.50 Driver Improvements, Corsair H105, Intel Haswell Refresh details and more!

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Hosts: Ryan Shrout, Jeremy Hellstrom, Josh Walrath and Allyn Malventano

Program length: 1:25:06
 

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April 17, 2014 | 07:54 PM - Posted by PapaDragon

Downloading now!

April 18, 2014 | 12:13 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

hello,
well ryan dont take my criticism on your article about nvidia driver as personal, still apreciate the hard work you've done, although i would have apreciated more consistent benchs focused on cpu overhead.
because here is how i see it, nvidia made the claim about cpu overhead on DX11, your job was just to run cpu bottleneck situations (like low cpu amd fx, i3 low presets, low res, fixed presets with single card and it's sli) and post results, but instead you doubled your workload, by testing multiple gpus, and 2 high end cpus which are irrelevant to the point, or you spent your time changing presets to see gains ( which they are just optimisation of special effects resources management ) again irrelevant to the point, it's not your job to sell the driver, just prove or disprove the claim of nvidia.
but i understand how you have been mislead by nvidia, they are in a very bad spot in these next 2 years, there will be alot of lying from them, especialy when it will come to Mantle, because honestly i dont see how they could response to the risk of losing market share because of mantle other than weird PR to undermine Mantle, and oversell some crap.
the point is to stay outside of all this as a reporter, and just be as objective as possible.

April 18, 2014 | 05:55 PM - Posted by Anonymous Gerbil (not verified)

Pretty sure you could have easily verified if SLI was working simply by opening up a couple of monitoring tools like GPU-Z and watching the GPU load on the second card.

April 19, 2014 | 05:01 AM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

I like how Ryan tries to deflect blame.

"Oh, Nvidia told me"

Like a little kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

April 19, 2014 | 08:54 PM - Posted by mig029

Hey Ryan, if you need an easy and cheap way to have your glade plugin turn off and on, use one of these timers sold at home depot and lowes. I use it on my coffee maker so it turns on at 8am.

April 20, 2014 | 12:48 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Samsung joins IBM's OpenPower Foundation, this is a must read!

http://www.eweek.com/servers/samsung-joins-ibms-openpower-foundation.html

Nvidia is also a member, could this give Nvidia access to IBMs power processor ISA. Also Samsung teaming up with GlobalFoundries, and we Know that IBM through its technology foundations has probably shared some chip Process technology with Samsung, Nvidia, and other members! IBM is getting out of the chip foundry business, but Keeping its research division, could IBM need both Samsung and GlobalFoundries for its supply of power Processors, now that IBM is going fabless(except for some research fabs).
IBM is also out of the x86 server business, so it just stands to reason that IBM would foster more of its process tech. IP throughout the non Intel based fabrication Industry. If IBM is willing to license its Power ISA, in the same fashion as ARM Holdings, could Intel be up against more than AMD's x86 competition, and what of IBM's fab business, could Apple buy it up, and hire one of its fab partners to run the operation, Apple could also license the power ISA from IBM, and remake the PowerPC in Apples own way for its macbooks and mac pros, Apple did buy P.A. simiconductor and utilize the P.A. simi IP and brain power to make the A6, A7, and future ARM ISA based systems. Apple is known to switch ISA in its macbook, and mac pro SKUs, if it so desires. Things are about to get intresting.

April 21, 2014 | 12:55 AM - Posted by Josh Walrath

Francis Underwood would be proud.

April 21, 2014 | 12:10 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

After researching the character I'll take it as an insult, but the great Pimptel, which everybody at the time thought of as the upstart against the established IBM, and an underdog, has been just as bad over these many years for using monopolistic methods, and Intel, M$, and Google, among others need some real competition in order to get the stagnation out of the PC market! I'm no fan of Apple, but I am a big fan of the Licensed IP model, that Arm Holdings has introduced into the PC/SOC marketplace. And having the IBM power processor ISA as part of a Liscensed IP market, will decentralize and democratise the supply of high performence CPUs like it has for the mobile CPU/SOC market built around the ARM ISA. That was IBM's orginal intent with respect to the forced cross-licensing of the x86 16/32 bit ISA at the dawn of the PC era, to keep the supply of x86 based CPUs at a competitive low, for IBM's CPU parts. And for gaming IBM is the one with the IP shareing that is responsable for GlobalFoundrys, via Samsung getting a better 14 nm process, Samsung and GlobalFoundrys being part of an IBM initiated technology shareing foundation. I know that IBM is not shareing its advanced process technology out of any goodness in its heart, but without IBM's putting Intel and AMD into x86 competition against eachother x86 would have cost gamers much more over the years. Now with Samsung, Nvidia and others able to access an even more powerfull power ISA, Intel will not be able to throw its weight around so much in the high end computing arena, and maybe gaming CPU market also. Nvidia will be partnering with IBM to integrate its GPUs into IBM's power based ISA server products to compete with AMD's CPU/GPU based x86 server products, and Intel will have to follow. Intel's process lead is now in danger of evaporating much faster in the face of IBM's seeding the chip fabraction market with its advanced fabrication IP. Well Big Blue is getting out of the chip fab business, and CPUs of all sizes and processing power range are now becoming commodity products. Apple has made some great strategic purchases, the best being Palo Alto semiconductor (founded by the lead designer for the DEC Alpha 21064 and StrongARM processors), so expect Apple to be seriously looking over IBM's fab business, and other IP, as well as licensable CPU ISAs, the ARMv8 ISA was surely made more robust, with the extra underlying P.A. Simi IP and brainpower( see Apple A7). Look for Steam OS, to bribg great innovation into the Gaming/Gaming OS market, just as as ARM Holdings' inspired licensed IP model brought new life into the mobile market, and both Nvidia, AMD, Samsung, Qualcomm, and others may just have power ISA based products to, compete mobile market, style with Intel's high end x86.

April 21, 2014 | 12:33 PM - Posted by Josh Walrath

It wasn't an insult.  My point with that comment is that the amount of political wrangling, backstabing, and behind the scenes work to make such a scenario true would make Frank Underwood proud.  He being the master of working behind the scenes to make his plans a reality.

April 21, 2014 | 02:25 PM - Posted by Anonymous (not verified)

Ok, but competition, is what drives innovation, and Intel as well as IBM, and most companies backstab and such, its just business as usual. Apple may fight with Samsung on the OEM devices side, but still buy fab capacity from Samsung if the price is right, and Apple's CEO will have to listen to Apple's bean counters and board of directors. IBM needs commodity pricing for its power based server chips, IBM is loosing money on hardware manfacturing, so it's getting out of the chip fab business(except for research, and some IP), and IBM's need for a good supply of low cost power based processors, to power its server/services business, will benifit the consumer, if Intel is forced to lower its x86 prices for high end CPUs! IBM getting out of the hardware business to a greater degree, and spreading that IBM process IP around, for the purposes of getting the lowest cost CPU(Power based) parts will be good for everybody. Look at the Mobile CPU/GPU IP market, and the amount of Innovation dew to Arm Holdings licensing the Arm ISA, and Arm refrence designs, and look at imagination technologies' PowerVR Wizard(with hardware Ray Tracing). the Mobile market is on fire with innovation, because of the licensed IP model, and the Many players using this IP to compete in the mobile market. I love it when all these companies are forced to fight (Kill la Kill style) with eachother, with real technological innovation just to stay alive, rather than sitting back and milking technology for just profits, and no motivation to advance the technology. Intel, M$, and Google need some competition, android is just as consumption based as windows RT, and there needs to be Full Linux based tablets, and more full Linux based PC, and hopefully Steam OS will be available on the tablet and laptop formfactor, as well as the Steam Box platforms. Intel and M$, need to be reined in and returned to the status of the supplier, and not hold the market hostage for their narrow gains. It has long been known that Nvidia wanted an x86 license, but was forced to rejigger its project Denver from x86 ISA, to the ARMv8 ISA, but with the power ISA, matched with its GPUs Nvidia and whatever chip fab that is the lowest bidder for the best process node, will make some money, without the need for x86, even if it is only for a custom IBM SKU. Nvidia's work with IBM just may result in a power based Nvidia APU type SKU for the high end gaming market, along with Nvidia's Tegra K1 ARM/ARMv8 custom ISA based tablet SKUs. AMD will have x86 and ARM based SKUs in next few years also. Apple with its P.A. simi boffins is sure to be looking to lower the cost of its macbook CPUs, and the mac pro uses an Intel server SKUs, but the power based CPUs do compete with any Intel server SKUs, so Apple is to be watched, they have the money to make it so. Samsung will also be in the running to supply IBM with power based CPU parts, x86 is not the only game in servertown.

April 22, 2014 | 08:28 AM - Posted by snook

it's like this:
use paragraphs, double spacing between them and the solid points you make wont be ignored due to the cramped structure. your point is getting lost in that orgy of characters.

on the plus side, PCper has the max sentence length dialed in for you, mostly.

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