If you can't beat 'em, join 'em; Intel goes Sandforce
Subject: Storage | February 6, 2012 - 01:12 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: ssd, SF-2281 controller, sandforce, Intel, 520 Cherryville, 25nm
While the Intel 320 Series did hold the top spot for quite a while it has been a while since Intel refreshed their SSD line and has fallen behind new controllers in performance. As of today that changes for the 520 Cherryville series has arrived and it is using none other than SandForce's SF-2281 controller. Using such a popular controller leaves Intel with a bit of a problem, how do they stand out in such a crowded market? One way that they have chosen is their home made 25nm synchronous NAND flash; Intel designs and fabs their own which gives them the opportunity to ensure the best flash chips make it into their drives. The other way they've chosen to differentiate themselves is with a 5-year warranty for owners of this new drive. Read how they did performance-wise at The Tech Report or else head straight to Al's review right here.
"Intel's newest solid-state drive pairs a SandForce controller with custom firmware and 25-nm NAND. We've tested the 60 and 240GB models to see how they fare against more than two dozen SSDs, hybrids, and mechanical drives."
Here are some more Storage reviews from around the web:
- Intel SSD 520 Series 240 GB Solid State Drive Review @ Hardware Secrets
- Intel 520 Series 240GB Review @ OCC
- Intel SSD 520 Series 240GB @ Techspot
- Intel SSD 520 Series Solid State Drive @ Benchmark Reviews
- Intel SSD 520 240GB @ Bjorn3D
- Intel 520 Series 240GB Solid State Drive @ Kitguru
- Intel 520 240GB SSD Review @ Hardware Canucks
- Intel 520 Series 240GB SSD Launch Review @ HardwareHeaven
- Intel series 520 240GB @ Guru3D
- Intel 520 240GB SSD Review (Round One) - Intel Releases Amazing SATA 3 SandForce Driven SSD @ SSD Review
- Intel 520 'Cherryville' Series 240GB SSD Review in RAID 0 @ Legit Reviews
- Kingston SSDNow V+ 200 120GB SATA III SSD @ SSD Review
- Samsung's 830 Series solid-state drive @ The Tech Report
- MyDigitalSSD 'Bullet Proof' 128GB mSATA SATA 2 SSD @ SSD Review
- Corsair Performance Series Pro 128GB Solid State Drive @ Tweaktown
- SSD performance scaling across the spectrum @ The Tech Report
- Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB Upgrade Kit Review @ Real World Labs
- Seagate Barracuda 3 TB Hard Drive Review @ Hardware Secrets
- Plextor PX-LB950UE External 12x Blu-ray Writer @ PCSTATS
- Synology DS212 2-Bay NAS @ Tweaktown
- Compact Network Attached Storage from Synology: DiskStation DS411 Slim @ X-bit Labs
- Synology DS-212 Two-Bay NAS Review @ Tweaknews
- Kingston DataTraveler HyperX 3.0 Thumb Drive @ Tweaktown
- Seagate GoFlex Turbo Review @ TechReviewSource
Introduction, Specifications, and Packaging
Introduction
Today we take a look at Intel's newest 6Gb/sec SATA SSD - the 520 Series. This is the second non-Intel controller to appear in one of their products. The first was the Marvell controller, which appeared in the 510 Series last March. This time around, Intel has gone with SandForce. This should leave at least one SATA 6Gb/sec model to be released. Taylorsville is the code name for the next SATA 6Gb/sec native-Intel controller, which has been on their roadmap since mid-2010 but has yet to actually materialize. While Taylorsville development continues, Intel has stop-gapped the 6Gb/sec slot with the 510 and now the 520 Series. Intel seemingly worked wonders with the stock Marvell firmware, and while the Marvell controller was much improved over stock, it still lagged far behind other higher performing SATA 6Gb/sec solutions. The SandForce was one of the much more capable controllers eating the 510's lunch, but how much further could Intel improve upon the SandForce firmware?
I guess a good question to answer up front is - What took them so long?!?! The answer is a bit complicated. Intel has actually been working on getting the 520 out the door for over a year now. They had to start with the same base SandForce firmware but accomplish two things for their version to be successful:
- Optimize to perform better than other equivalent SandForce models (from competitors).
- Pass Intel's stringent validation testing.
They didn't say so directly, but I can only imagine Intel's process was plagued by multiple 'back to the drawing board' moments. Trying to one-up competition like OCZ can't be easy as they've been tweaking SandForce firmware since the very beginning. There's also those nasty bugs that would cause random BSOD's or even permanently brick the drive. Such failures have no place in an Intel SSD. Intel's upper limit for each SSD line is a 0.75% annual failure rate, and we've seen SandForce SSD's failing at a higher rate than that this past year.
With each tweak made, Intel would have to once again pass their drives through another round of full validation testing. This is no small task for Intel. As an example: It took Intel just a couple of weeks to recreate and correct the long-term performance issue I discovered back in 2009, but despite mountingpressure, they could not release the updated firmware until it had successfully passed their validation a full three months later. Intel takes this testing very seriously, and that's what leads people to trust their reliability.
Introduction, Specifications, and Packaging
Introduction
A couple of days ago we looked at a pair of SSD's from Patriot. Next up is a pair of SSD's from Corsair. These are another two SandForce controlled units, but this time it's Async IMFT flash vs. Sync IMFT flash:
We'll carry the Patriot Pyro (IMFT Async) into the results for comparison, and keeping the other benchmark OCZ and Intel models in with the mix of results. The OCZ Vertex 3 and Agility 3 will again share the same SandForce controller, but OCZ has been known to add many performance tweaks to their firmware. Let's see if Corsair was able to use 'tweaked' firmware or instead went with the stock one provided by SandForce.
Specifications
The Corsair Force 3 and Force GT are both available in the following capacities:
- 60GB
- 90GB
- 120GB
- 180GB
- 240GB
- 480GB
The added capacity points are a bonus of how IMFT can stack their dies in 'odd' multiples (i.e. 3 per package, making a 24GB TSOP). Varying slightly from low to high capacities (and across the two models), specs range from 490 to 525 MB/sec writes and 550 to 555 MB/sec reads. 60GB models get 80,000 4K IOPS and the rest get a rating of 85,000 4K IOPS. Corsairs specs indicate IOMeter 2008 was used for this test, and it's important to note that 2008's writes were a repeating pattern that is easily and fully compressible by the SandForce controller, meaning those specs were derived using fully compressible data.
Podcast #187 - Our thoughts on Ultrabooks, the Radeon HD 7950, ASUS DirectCU GTX cards, and more!
Subject: Editorial, General Tech | February 2, 2012 - 03:11 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: ssd, sandforce, radeon, podcast, patriot, nvidia, Intel, gtx, arm, amd, 7950
PC Perspective Podcast #187 - 02/02/2012
Join us this week as we talk about our thoughts on Ultrabooks, the Radeon HD 7950, ASUS DirectCU GTX cards, and more!
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- 0:01:20 Ultrabooks: Intel Knows What's Good For You
- 0:08:30 Patriot Pyro and Wildfire SSD Review - IMFT Async vs. Toshiba Toggle-mode Flash
- 0:14:20 AMD Radeon HD 7950 3GB Graphics Card Review
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- 0:26:38 Asus DirectCU II Roundup: ENGTX560, ENGTX570, and ENGTX580 Review
- 0:40:35 Raspberry Pi Linux Computer Will Have Fast GPU For The Price
- 0:44:20 If you thought Intel did well wait until you see ARM
- 0:47:00 AMD 7700 and 7800 Release Dates Leak To Web
- 0:51:20 Live Blog: AMD Financial Analyst Day
- 0:52:20 Hardware / Software Pick of the Week
- Josh: And it is on sale! $770 off!
- Allyn: Corsair Force 3 - very good pricing.
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Take your SSD to work day
Subject: Storage | January 30, 2012 - 02:35 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: ssd, enterprise, eMLC, Samsung, SM825 400GB
Enterprise level storage has vastly different priorities than consumer grade storage as data that is lost is of a different level than lost pictures and home movie. As precious as those memories are it is unlikely that family members will sue you or disown you because you lost their data, internal and external customers on the other hand are very likely to. This places a large priority on reliability which must be considered even before the cost savings are considered. For companies with large databases and numerous users connecting to them concurrently there is a huge time savings possible from introducing an SSD to the front end, but only if it can be guaranteed to be available and not down.
The SSD Review takes a look at Samsung's enterprise class SSD, the SM825 which has 400GB of eMLC flash storage which is rated at 7000TBW (terabytes written) before failure; consumer models are usually 60TBW. When the SSD Review cracked the case and did some addition, they spotted 112GB being used for over-provisioning as well as four impressively sized capacitors for protection against power outages. Check out the full review to see how it performs.
"In reviewing the Samsung SSD SM825 Data Center Edition 400GB eMLC solid state drive, we understand that we have wandered off the beaten path of normal consumer reviews but there are some things in this SSD that will just grab your attention. Although it’s interesting to see that Samsung has chosen its own premium eMLC NAND flash memory in the SM825, we believe that it is the total write endurance that truly stands out in this enterprise class SSD."
Here are some more Storage reviews from around the web:
- Patriot Pyro SE 240Gb @ FunkyKit
- OCZ Nocti 128GB SATA 2 mSATA SSD @ SSD Review
- ADATA S396 30GB Value Solid State Drive @ Tweaktown
- Samsung 830 Series 128GB Solid State Drive @ Tweaktown
- OCZ Synapse Cache 64GB SSD @ Bjorn3D
- Silicon Power Velox V30 SATA 3 240GB SSD Review @ The SSD Review
- Crucial m4 512GB @ Legion Hardware
- OWC DIY Solid State Drive Upgrade Kit Review @ circuitREMIX
- Zalman F1 120 GB Solid State Drive @ X-bit Labs
- Asus DRW-24B3LT SATA DVD-RW Drive Review @ Tweaknews
- ADATA S107 16GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive @ kitguru
- Seagate Barracuda 3TB in RAID 0: Performance Unleashed @ Hardware Canucks
- Synology RackStation RS212 @ Kitguru
- Western Digital will show a two drive Thunderbolt storage unit @ The Inquirer
- Verbatim Store'n'Go 1 TB USB3.0 Portable Hard Drive @ Metku
Introduction, Specifications, and Packaging
Introduction
Today we're going to take a look at a pair of SSD models from Patriot. While they both share the same SandForce controller, that's where the differences end. This won't be your typical review - because this time we're pitting an Async IMFT flash unit against a Toshiba Toggle-mode flash unit:
We're also tossing a few OCZ and Intel models into the mix. The OCZ Vertex 3 and Agility 3 will again share the same SandForce controller, but OCZ has been known to add many performance tweaks to their firmware. This will give us a chance to see the 'baseline' SandForce firmware in action.
Specifications
Patriot has their drive specs spread out over several pages. Here's a consolidated list for these two models. We will be reviewing a 120GB sample from each of the two product lines.
- Wildfire 120GB:
-Sequential Read & Write Transfer: 555MB/s read | 520MB/s Write
-Max Random Write IOPS: Up to 85,000 (4K aligned)
- Wildfire 240GB:
-Sequential Read & Write Transfer: 555MB/s read | 520MB/s Write
-Max Random Write IOPS: Up to 85,000 (4K aligned)
- Wildfire 480GB:
-Sequential Read & Write Transfer: 540MB/S Read | 450MB/S Write*
-Max Random Write IOPS: Max 4K Random IOPS: 40K*
- Pyro 60GB:
- Sequential Read & Write Transfer: 520MB/s read | 490MB/s Write.
- Max Random Write IOPS: Up to 80,000 (4K aligned).
- Pyro 120GB:
- Sequential Read & Write Transfer: 550MB/s read | 515MB/s Write.
- Max Random Write IOPS: Up to 85,000 (4K aligned).
- Pyro 240GB:
- Sequential Read & Write Transfer: 550MB/s read | 515MB/s Write.
- Max Random Write IOPS: Up to 85,000 (4K aligned).
I've highlighted a few outlier specs in the above list. While the Pyro sees the now expected dip in performance when transitioning from 120GB down to 60GB - due to a reduction in the communication channels to the (fewer) flash chips, the Wildfire sees a seemingly opposite and more drastic effect. This is not due to a change in the number of data paths - it's a limit inherent in the SandForce controller itself, and is not limited to Toggle-mode flash. The difference caused by the Toggle-mode flash is the missing 60GB model - caused by the intermix of capacity points and configuration needed for this different type of flash memory.
The SSD powered Oaktrail tablet from Kupa is a trooper
Subject: Mobile | January 26, 2012 - 03:47 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: tablet, ssd, oaktrail, mobile, Kupa X11, atom Z670, atom
You might not expect to see a tablet being examined at the SSD Review, except for the Kupa X11 which contains a 64 or 128GB mSSD drive. As the Atom and Oaktrail pairing are perhaps not the fastest mobile chips on the block, the initial testing tried to determine if that chipset would prove to be a bottleneck. They tested the Kingspec 128GB SSD which was included in the tablet as well as a Renice X3 120GB ‘SandForce Driven’ SSD and a Kingston mS100 SSD. The Kingspec was the slowest choice of the three and even though the other two did perform more impressively Oaktrail did indeed prove to limit the performance of the drives. On the other hand, it is still faster than a HDD and the SSD helps to extend the life of this 1366 x 768 10.1″ tablet to around 10 hours. Also worth noting is that this tablet runs Xin7 Professional, not a trimmed down OS, and will fully support Win8.
"Just prior to CES we had received an e-mail from a reader who had spoken of a company called Kupa, a tablet manufacturer who, as the reader had stated, “wasn’t afraid to experiment outside the box”. it took us all of two seconds to get to the Kupa Website and discover the Kupa X11, a tablet PC with all the power of a full size computer to include a Intel Atom Z670 1.5Ghz Oaktrail platform, 2GB RAM and your choice of 64 or 128GB SSD. Needless to say, we were impressed."
Here are some more Mobile articles from around the web:
- Acer Aspire TimelineX 5830TG-6614 Review @ TechReviewSource
- HP Envy 15 (Early 2012) Review @ TechReviewSource
- Capsule Review: GeChic's On-Lap 1301 Laptop Monitor @ AnandTech
- The Battle of The Netbooks: Intel vs AMD @ eTeknix
- Mobile CPU Comparison Guide @ TechARP
- GE Chic 13 inch On-Lap Monitor Review @ TechwareLabs
- Thermaltake Tt eSport Battle Dragon LAN Bag Review @ eTeknix
- Motorola Razr Android Smartphone Review @ HardwareHeaven
- Samsung Galaxy Nexus & Ice Cream Sandwich @ AnandTech
- HTC Explorer Android Smartphone Review @ HardwareHeaven
- How to transfer and play .AVI movies on your iPhone @ Funky Kit
LaCie's Little Big Disk now comes in Thunderbolt
Subject: Storage | January 20, 2012 - 01:50 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: thunderbolt, LaCie, Little Big Disk, ssd, external drive
Thunderbolts and lightning have been gracing the front page of PC Perspective for a while now, the new external interfaces are well described but there is a lack of products on the market to review. Hopefully that will change soon as there is little point of having an interface with nothing to plug into it. LaCie is one of the few to have actually managed to get a product to market, a Thunderbolt connected external 240GB SSD version of their Little Big Disk. It was certainly fast in the testing that TechReviewSource performed but it does leave one with a question, who needs to back up 200GB in a big hurry and is willing to spend over $900 for the ability to do so?
"The LaCie Little Big Disk Thunderbolt (240GB SSD) is currently the least expensive way to obtain Thunderbolt speeds for your late-model Mac. It's half the price of the Promise Pegasus R6, the only other Thunderbolt drive on the market, but that doesn't mean it's cheap."
Here are some more Storage reviews from around the web:
- Solid State Drive Roundup @ circuitREMIX
- Patriot Pyro SE 240GB Solid State Drive @ Tweaktown
- Super Talent TeraDrive Nova 240GB SATA 3 @ SSD Review
- Corsair Performance Pro 256 GB SSD @ techPowerUp
- Corsair Performance Pro 256GB SSD Review @ Hardware Canucks
- RAID 0 of SSDs: Two Kingston HyperX 120 GB SSDs vs. Kingston HyperX 240 GB SSD @ X-bit Labs
- Seagate Momentus XT 750GB SATA III Hybrid Disk Drive Review @ Real World Labs
- Thecus N5500 5 Bay NAS Server Review @ Legit Reviews
- Super Talent USB 3.0 DataGuardian 32GB Flash Drive Review @ Madshrimps
- Wireless Storage: Kingston Wi-Drive 16 GB & Seagate GoFlex Satellite 500 GB @ Bjorn3D
- Verbatim USB3.0 SuperSpeed external HDD with controller card @ Metku
- Kingston DT 109 @ Hardwarebistro
Podcast #185 - ASUS EeePad Transformer Prime, an overclocked XFX HD7970, AMDs Lightning Bolt and more!
Subject: Editorial | January 19, 2012 - 07:05 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: podcast, Intel, amd, ssd, hdd, nvidia, kepler, GK104, gpu, cpu
PC Perspective Podcast #185 - 01/19/2011
Join us this week as we talk about the ASUS EeePad Transformer Prime, an overclocked XFX HD7970, AMDs Lightning Bolt and more!
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- 0:00:55 SOPA and PIPA Chat...
- 0:06:35 ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime Review: Thinner, Faster
- 0:07:23 Acer Extensa 5420 Retrospective Review: How Far Have We Come?
- 0:10:15 Corsair Hydro Series H100 Liquid CPU Cooler Review
- 0:11:10 Video Perspective: Cooler Master Cosmos II Case Review
- 0:14:00 XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Black Edition and CrossFire Results
- 0:22:45 AMD and IBM inside the Xbox Next?
- 0:31:30 Lucid Cloud Gaming (VGWare) and XLR8 on Tablets Demo
- 0:44:55 Nvidia May Launch GF104 "Kepler" GPUs Ahead Of Schedule
- 0:51:00 AMD Lightning Bolt Strikes At Intel's Thunderbolt
- 0:53:00 AMD Countering Ultrabooks With Ultrathin Notebooks
- 0:55:00 Random Storage stuff at CES? also this link
- 1:05:00 Alienware X51 Desktop -- Console Sized PC, $700 and up.
- 1:10:30 Email from Tom about 7970 CrossFire
- 1:13:34 Hardware / Software Pick of the Week
- Ryan: Behringer XENYX 802
- Jeremy: EVGA SR-X
- Josh: Decent and cheap for the AMD enthusiast: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962
- Allyn: Mophie Juice Pack Powerstation, oh, and my current house rep is my anti-pick
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- Closing
CES Storage Roundup Part 4 - Sandisk, PQI
Subject: Storage, Shows and Expos | January 16, 2012 - 06:36 PM | Allyn Malventano
Tagged: ssd, sandisk, PQI, memory, flash, CES
Sandisk
Sandisk had a booth with a large array of small nand flash storage devices, though most of it appeared to be SD, CF, or for embedded mobile applications:
One of the more interesting pieces was a 64GB e.MMC nand flash part that fit *within* the dimensions of a penny! This is not a plug-in module - it's the type that would be soldered onto the mainboard of a cell phone or other small mobile device:
While the booth was generally light on SSD's, there were a couple on display, namely the U100, in both 7mm (left) and 9.5mm (right) form factors:
The U100 is also available in even smaller form factor. We're currently taking a look at an Ultrabook equipped with the same Sandisk U100 SSD - mounted to an even smaller PCB.
PQI
PQI has been a favorite of mine for years. They were among the first to make a really tiny thumb drive, and I'm glad to see they continue to make a versatile line of products:
A little known fact is that PQI also has a line of SATA SSD's:
The S525 Series (also available as the S518 - 1.8" form factor), is a bit long in the tooth and uses a dated JMicron controller, but PQI made the extra effort to include the optional USB 2.0 interface that most other manufacturers chose to omit.
More to follow
I've still got some pics to sift through, so stay tuned for more CES Storage goodies!
PC Perspective's CES 2012 coverage is sponsored by MSI Computer.
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