The GTX 670 and the Case of the Missing (and Returning) 4-Way SLI Support
Subject: Graphics Cards | May 11, 2012 - 04:57 PM | Ryan Shrout
Tagged: sli, nvidia, kepler, gtx 670, GK104, geforce
In our launch review of the GeForce GTX 670 2GB graphics card this week, we had initially mentioned that these $399 graphics cards would support SLI, 3-Way SLI and even 4-Way SLI configurations thanks to the pair of SLI connections on the PCB. We received an update from NVIDIA later on that day that in fact it would NOT support 4-Way SLI.
The message from NVIDIA was pretty clear cut:
"As I’m sure you can imagine, we have to QA every feature that we claim support for and this takes a tremendous amount of time/resources. For the GTX 680 and GTX 690, we do support Quad SLI and take the time to QA it, as it makes sense for the extreme OC’ers and ultra-enthusiasts who are shooting to break world records."
My reply:
But with the similarities between the GTX 680 and the GTX 670, is there really any QA addition required to enable quad for 670? Seems like a cop-out to me man...
I saw it mostly as a reason to differentiate the GTX 670 and the GTX 680 with a feature since the performance between the cards was very similar; maybe too similar for NVIDIA's tastes with the $100 price difference.
Well this afternoon we received some good news from our contact at NVIDIA:
"Change in plans.....we will be offering 4-Way SLI support for GTX 670 in a future driver."
So while the 301.34 driver will not support 4-Way configurations with the GTX 670, 4-Way SLI will in fact be enabled after all in a future version. We'll be sure to keep you in the loop when that happens and the super-extreme enthusiasts can rejoice.
This does go to show that the fundamental differences between AMD's license-free and seemingly more "open" CrossFire technology and NVIDIA's for-fee SLI technology. With enough feedback and prodding in the right direction, NVIDIA can and does do the right thing, just look at the success we had convincing them to support SLI on AMD CPU platforms last year.
Feet to the fire everyone!
Hard to make a profit when no one can find Kepler cards for sale, NVIDIA
Subject: General Tech | May 11, 2012 - 11:38 AM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: sales, Q2, nvidia, kepler
NVIDIA made $925m this quarter down from the $1,002m they made 12 months ago and profit is even dimmer with profits falling from $137m to a hair over $60m. This marks the third year NVIDIA's Q1 revenue has been less than in the previous year and that is going to deeply trouble investors. Even if GTX680s and 690s had flooded the market and were sitting on store shelves hoping that someone would come along and buy them that would not have helped sales in the first quarter, though if Kepler had been released early and in great quantities NVIDIA might have turned this distressing trend around.
Q2 could be peachy, three models of GTX670 are still available at NewEgg after the initial sales and if the GTX680's production can be ramped up without much in the way of associated costs we could see some nice financials in the summer. After all they do have the best cards on the market right now. Hit up The Inquirer for more.
"Nvidia is on a high after a successful Kepler GPU launch but its financials paint a very different picture. The firm's first quarter of its 2013 fiscal year yielded revenue of $924.9m, just under four per cent lower than the same period a year previously, however its net income took a beating as profits fell by 55 per cent to $60.4m."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Tesla gun will probably kill something, sometime @ Hack a Day
- Asustek unveils US$799 ultrabook @ DigiTimes
- If data can be lost, it will @ The Tech Report
- Win HIS HD7870 IceQ Turbo and IceQ X Turbo X Video Cards @ Kitguru
- Weekly Gaming Giveaway #1: Conflict of Heroes: Awakening The Bear @ eTeknix
Podcast #201 - GTX 690 review, ASUS G75V Ivy Bridge Notebook review, a Vertex 4 update and more!
Subject: Editorial | May 10, 2012 - 03:56 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: Vertex 4, podcast, nvidia, Ivy Bridge, Intel, gtx690, g75v, amd, 690
PC Perspective Podcast #201 - 05/10/2012
Join us this week as we talk about our GTX 690 review, ASUS G75V Ivy Bridge Notebook review, a Vertex 4 update and more!
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Hosts: Ryan Shrout, Jeremy Hellstrom, Josh Walrath, and Allyn Malvantano
Program Schedule:
- Introduction
- 1-888-38-PCPER or podcast@pcper.com
- http://pcper.com/podcast
- http://twitter.com/ryanshrout and http://twitter.com/pcper
- Win a Netgear R6300 802.11ac router!!
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 Review - Dual GK104 Kepler Greatness
- ASUS G75V Review: Gaming Goes Ivy
- Greater than 20 Percent of Malware Articles Miss the Point
- Trinity Improvements Include Updated Piledriver Cores and VLIW4 GPUs
- More Leaks Emerge on NVIDIA’s Kepler Based GTX 670 GPU
- Ready for Diablo III? Not with Catalyst 12.4 you're not.
- Corsair Launches Air Series of High Airflow and High Static Pressure Fans
- Steam Allows Remote Installation of Games
- OCZ Updates Vertex 4 Enthusiasts to 1.4 Release Candidate Firmware
- Windows Media Center To Be A Pro Only Feature In Windows 8
- Good news from TSMC for NVIDIA and you
- Hardware / Software Pick of the Week
- Ryan: ASUS N66U Dual-band Router
- Jeremy: Wave your hands like an idiot for free
- Josh: Not exactly mine, but good.
- Allyn: pqi U819V 3cm USB3
- 1-888-38-PCPER or podcast@pcper.com
- http://pcper.com/podcast
- http://twitter.com/ryanshrout and http://twitter.com/pcper
- Closing
GeForce GTX 670 vs GTX 570 Performance Update
Subject: Graphics Cards | May 10, 2012 - 02:13 PM | Ryan Shrout
Tagged: nvidia, kepler, gtx 670, gtx 570, GK104, geforce
In the comments to our full review of the GeForce GTX 670 2GB graphics card a user asked for a comparison of the new GTX 670 against the Fermi-based GTX 570. I had some numbers for that already made up but ran out of time and space for it in our review that went up this morning. I thought that there might be others interested in this so I decided to put a news post with the results.
These performance graphs pit a reference clocked GTX 570 1.25GB card against the new reference GTX 670 2GB card.
Without a doubt the new GTX 670 is a faster GPU than the GTX 570:
- 3DMark11: +45%
- Battlefield 3: +34%
- DiRT 3: +28%
- Skyrim: +32%
- Metro 2033: +31%
- Dues Ex: +29%
- Batman: AC: +39%
- Power Consumption: -14%
With an average performance delta of 30% or more, the GTX 670 makes a solid upgrade for GTX 570 users but maybe more interesting, it does this while using 14% less power as well.
Graphics Card (GPU) Stock Check - May 10th, 2012
Subject: Graphics Cards | May 10, 2012 - 01:38 PM | Ryan Shrout
Tagged: radeon, nvidia, HD 7970, hd 7950, hd 7870, hd 7850, hd 7770, hd 7750, GTX 690, gtx 680, gtx 670, geforce, amd
Due to popular request, I am going to try to keep our readers up to date on the current availability of graphics cards and pricing on the market. With the recent price drops from AMD, the frequent out-of-stock status of the GTX 680 cards and today's new release of the GTX 670, I thought this would be a great summary of the current situation.
NVIDIA's latest offering, the GeForce GTX 670
We will try to post new updates weekly or maybe more frequently as we see fit. Newegg is our partner of choice for this today, so let's see what we have.
AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series
Radeon HD 7970 3GB - In Stock
Starting at $479
Radeon HD 7950 3GB - In Stock
Starting at $399
Radeon HD 7870 2GB - In Stock
Starting at $329
Radeon HD 7850 2GB - In Stock
Starting at $249
Radeon HD 7770 1GB - In Stock
Starting at $129
Radeon HD 7750 1GB - In Stock
Starting at $109
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 600 Series
GeForce GTX 690 4GB - No Stock
Starting at $999
GeForce GTX 680 2GB - No Stock
Starting at $499
GeForce GTX 670 2GB - In Stock
Starting at $399
It is launch day for the GTX 670 and those seem to be pretty widely available for the time being. As great a card as it is though, I am hesitant to think it will remain in stock through the end of the day based on past experiences with the GTX 600 cards. Still, the GTX 680 is MIA and the few times I have seen it in stock it only lasts a couple of hours.
AMD is still doing fine on availability with the Radeon HD 7970 and HD 7950 widely available for the price of $479 with a set of three free games including DiRT Showdown and Dues Ex: Human Revolution.
If you are looking for our latest graphics reviews to judge the performance of the above cards, here you go:
- GeForce GTX 670
- GeForce GTX 690
- GeForce GTX 680
- MSI R7970 Lightning
- Radeon HD 7870 and HD 7850
- Radeon HD 7770 and HD 7750
- Radeon HD 7950
- Radeon HD 7970
The GTX 670 has finally arrived
Subject: Graphics Cards | May 10, 2012 - 01:30 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: nvidia, kepler, gtx 670, GK104, geforce
The GTX 670 is a scaled down GTX 680 in every aspect including price. 1344 CUDA Cores is 192 less than the GTX 680, baseclock is reduced 91MHz to 915MHz, 16 less texture units for a total of 112; the memory remains the same at 6GHz. Most important to consumers is the reduction in price, down $100 to an MSRP of $400, targeting it directly against the HD7950 at its new price. [H]ard|OCP's testing does not favour AMD as the GTX 670 shows an obvious performance advantage over the HD7950 as well as the still available GTX 580 and does it at a price point which matches AMD's new prices.
Ryan's full review can be read here, where he tests out Galaxy's GTX 670.
"NVIDIA's next generation Kepler GPU continues with the launch of the GeForce GTX 670. This GPU is positioned to provide great performance at a price level $100 less than the GeForce GTX 680. Could this be the best performing $399 video card, besting even the Radeon HD 7950? We tell you all you need to know if $400 is your price range."
Here are some more Graphics Card articles from around the web:
- GeForce GTX 670 @ The Tech Report
- ZOTAC GeForce GTX 670 AMP! Edition 2 GB @ techPowerUp
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 DirectX 11 Video Card Review @Hi Tech Legion
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 Review Feat. EVGA: Bringing GK104 Down To $400 @ AnandTech
- Gigabyte GTX670 OC Video Card Review @ Ninjalane
- EVGA GeForce GTX 670 SuperClocked Video Card Review @ Hardware Secrets
- Palit JetStream GEFORCE GTX 670 2GB @ Tweaktown
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 Video Card Tests @ Benchmark Reviews
- Palit GeForce GTX 670 JetStream 2 GB @ techPowerU
- EVGA GTX 670 Superclocked @ Overclockers.com
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card @ Bjorn3D
- GIGABYTE GTX 670 OC @ Bjorn3D
- Gainward GeForce GTX 670 Phantom @ Techspot
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Windforce 3X OC 2GB DirectX 11 Video Card Review @Hi Tech Legion
- NVIDIA GTX 670 Review @ OCC
- NVIDIA & EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card Review @ Legit Reviews
- GEFORCE GTX 670 @ Hardware Heaven
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 Launch Review @ Neoseeker
- ASUS GeForce GTX 670 Direct CU II 2 GB @ techPowerUp
- Gainward GeForce GTX 670 Phantom @ Legion Hardware
- Nvidia GTX 670 @ lanOC Reviews
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2 GB @ techPowerUp
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 Review @ Hardware Canucks
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 @ Guru of 3D
- GeForce GTX 670 2 and 3-way SLI @ Guru of 3D
- Palit GeForce GTX 670 JetStream @ Guru of 3D
- ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II TOP @ Guru of 3D
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 review plus SLI and 3-way SLI @ Hardware.Info
- NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 2GB Video Card Overclocked @ Tweaktown
- MSI GTX 680 Twin Frozr Graphics Card Review @ HardwareHeaven
- ZOTAC GeForce GTX 680 AMP! Edition 2 GB @ techPowerUp
- Palit GeForce GTX 680 4GB Jetstream @ Guru of 3D
- NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 2GB @ Tweaktown
- MSI Radeon HD 7870 HAWK 2GB @ Tweaktown
- MSI R7950 Twin Frozr III @ Kitguru
- Ivy Bridge PCI-Express Scaling with HD 7970 and GTX 680 @ techPowerUp
- HIS Radeon HD 7770 iCooler 1 GB @ techPowerUp
- XFX HD 7870 and 7850 Double Dissipation Review @ OCC
- MSI R7970 Lightning / R7870 Hawk review @ Hardware.Info
- HIS Radeon HD 7870 IceQ X Turbo X 2GB Graphics Card @ eTeknix
GK104 takes a step down
While the graphics power found in the new GeForce GTX 690, the GeForce GTX 680 and even the Radeon HD 7970 are incredibly impressive, if we are really honest with ourselves the real meat of the GPU market buys options much lower than $999. Today's not-so-well-kept-secret release of the GeForce GTX 670 attempts to bring the price to entry of the NVIDIA Kepler architecture down to a more attainable level while also resetting the performance per dollar metrics of the GPU world once again.
The GeForce GTX 670 is in fact a very close cousin to the GeForce GTX 680 with only a single SMX unit disabled and a more compelling $399 price tag.
The GTX 670 GPU - Nearly as fast as the GTX 680
The secret is out - GK104 finds its way onto a third graphics card in just two months - but in this iteration the hardware has been reduced slightly.
The GTX 670 block diagram we hacked together above is really just a GTX 680 diagram with a single SMX unit disabled. While the GTX 680 sported a total of 1536 CUDA cores broken up into eight 192 core SMX units, the new GTX 670 will include 1344 cores. This will also drop the texture units to 112 (from 128 on the GTX 680) though the ROP count stays at 32 thanks to the continued use of a 256-bit memory interface.
Continue reading our review of the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB graphics card!!
Good news from TSMC for NVIDIA and you
Subject: General Tech | May 9, 2012 - 02:28 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: TSMC, 28nm, nvidia
In the seemingly never ending saga of TSMC, NVIDIA and the mysteriously lacking supply of 28nm GPUs on the market is another update from DigiTimes. TSMC is going to give priority to NVIDIA on their production lines, though if TSMC is still at 95% capacity that may not mean a great increase in capacity. This doesn't refute the rumours that NVIDIA is shopping around for a new supplier for their chips nor that they may be revamping the mask they use for the chips but it does imply that TSMC does not want to lose NVIDIA's business and might have some capacity to spare for them.
"Since Nvidia has been unsatisfied with TSMC's 28nm process, while the company has also not refuted rumors that the company may cooperate with Samsung Electronics or Globalfoundries, TSMC, to sooth Nvidia, has put the GPU maker on its supply priority, allowing Nvidia to be able to release its 28nm GPUs on schedule in May and June."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Micron chucks down $2.5bn lifeline to Elpida @ The Register
- Calligra Suite, the Promising Not-An-Office Suite @ Linux.com
- Microsoft makes good with a 23-fix Patch Tuesday @ The Register
- Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin @ The Inquirer
- Virtu Universal MVP Review @ Hardware Secrets
- Nikon Coolpix P510 Review @ TechReviewSource
- Cisco Linksys E4200 V2 review @ Hardware.Info
- HardwareHeaven 10 year Anniversary Giveaway
Introduction, Design, User Interface
Intel has decided to lead its introduction of Ivy Bridge for mobile with its most powerful quad-core parts. Many of these processors will end up in mainstream laptop, but they’re also great for gaming laptops. In our first look at Ivy Bridge we saw that it holds up well when paired with its own Intel HD 4000 graphics – if you keep the resolution around 1366x768. A bit more than that and the IGP just can’t hang.
Gamers will still want a beefy discrete GPU, and that’s what the G75 offers. Inside this beast you’ll find an Nvidia GeForce GTX 670M. Those who were reading our Kepler coverage will remember that this is not based off Nvidia’s newest architecture but is instead a re-work of an older Fermi chip. That mean seem a bit disappointing, and it is – but the performance of Nvidia’s older mobile chips wasn’t lackluster.
So, this new laptop is packing a spanking-new Core i7-3720QM as well as Nvidia’s new GTX 670M. That’s an impressive combination, and ASUS has wisely backed it up with a well-rounded set of performance components.
Continue reading our review of the ASUS G75V Gaming Notebook!
More Leaks Emerge on NVIDIA’s Kepler Based GTX 670 GPU
Subject: Graphics Cards | May 5, 2012 - 06:28 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: nvidia, msi, kepler, gtx 670, asian colorful
Earlier this week we reported on a rumored MSI GTX 670 graphics card with a “DispalyPort” that was coming out soon. A new photo of the MSI card is below along with the box (though the typo is covered up by the card). Swelclockers has now gotten their hands on even more photos of the alleged GPU–this time from manufacturer Asia Colorful. The two rumored cards are said to be based on the NVIDIA reference design, and supporting the rumors, both cards do look very similar in design.
The alleged MSI GTX 670 GPU
The cards that appear to be Kepler based GTX 670s have a black PCB that extends about 3/4ths of the length of the heatsink and fan cooler. Except for a bit of overlap, the heatsink covers the PCB and the fan is located in the part of the card that hangs past the edge of the PCB. It also looks like they have moved the PCI-E power connectors to the outside edge of the card–a different rumored GTX 670 had the PCI-E power on the back edge of the card.
The underside of the Asia Colorful GTX 670 graphics card.
As far as specifications, the cards support PCI-E 3.0, two DVI outputs, an HDMI and what looks like a DisplayPort output. Beyond that, the card is said to be based on a scaled down version of NVIDIA’s Kepler architecture based GTX 680 GPU. For the GTX 670, NVIDIA has allegedly disabled 192 CUDA cores for a total of 1344. They have also reduced the base GPU core clockspeed from 1,006MHz on the GTX 680 to 900MHz. Although the card still uses the same 256-bit memory interface, the GTX 670 has a reduced memory (GDDR5) clockspeed of 5GHz versus 6GHz on the GTX 680. Because of the scaled back nature of the card, it has a lower TDP of approximately 150W.
Because they have been spotted in retailer’s hands, the GTX 670 is likely very close to release. Rumors are now suggesting that the card will be sold for somewhere between $349 and $379 USD.
Also on the Kepler front, is this cool looking single slot Kepler-class GPU that may or may not be a custom designed GTX 670. What Kepler rumors have you heard, and are you looking forward to the cheaper GTX 600 series cards?















