Subject: Cases and Cooling | November 7, 2011 - 12:17 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, bulldozer, water cooler
When the Bulldozer process first started to hit the review bench one of the most commented on facts was that AMD had plans to release a watercooler with some models of the FX-8150. The basic design will be familiar to anyone who has seen a self contained watercooler, with a waterblock directly attached to a radiator. In this case you can use two 120mm fans to move air over the radiator, which might be a good thing considering the small diameter tubing and questionable finish on the waterblock. Neoseeker shows of the monitoring software and the cooling prowess of this bundled watercooler in their latest review.
"In our review of the AMD FX-8150 last month, we noted that AMD would at some point begin bundling the new Bulldozer CPU with a stock water cooler with the promise of opening the doors to even better overclocking performance for enthusiasts. We've at last got our hands on the model which will come included with the FX-8150 in the near future, and we put it to the test in our updated coverage for the FX-8150 CPU. Find out just how large the additional overclocking headroom becomes with the upcoming stock water cooler."
Here are some more Cases & Cooling reviews from around the web:
- Corsair Hydro Series: H60, H80 and H100 @ AnandTech
- Evercool Transformer 3 CPU Cooler @ Tweaktown
- SilenX EFZ-92HA3 CPU Cooler @ Bjorn3D
- Thermalright True Spirit 120 CPU Cooler Review @ Hardware Secrets
- NZXT HAVIK 140 CPU Cooler @ Real World Labs
- Gelid GX-7 CPU cooler @ Guru of 3D
- Antec SOLO II Chassis Review @ Kitguru
- Antec SOLO II Mid Tower Case Review @ Hi Tech Legion
- Lian Li PC-6 @ Computing on Demand
- Fractal Design Core 3000 Case Review @ Hardware Secrets
- CM Storm Trooper @ techPowerUp
- Lian Li PC6 Case Review @ Ninjalane
- BitFenix Outlaw Mid Tower @ Tweaktown
- LEPA LPC302 Series Case Review @ HardwareHeaven
- Corsair 500R @ OC3D
- Thermaltake Overseer RX-I Review @ HardwareLOOK
- Silverstone RV03 Raven 3 Case Review @ Ninjalane
- NZXT Tempest 410 Elite Mid Tower Case Review @ ThinkComputers
Subject: General Tech | November 7, 2011 - 11:59 AM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Last week AMD took a scythe to their staff, not so much a separation of the chaff from the wheat and more of a slash and burn approach. As one press report put it "AMD has announced a restructuring plan and implementation of operational efficiency initiatives designed to strengthen the company's competitive positioning." As you can tell, the PR team is already suffering from regressive corporate double speak. Some names which have represented the face of AMD to hardware sites, such as Patrick Moorhead and Carrell Killebrew are gone from AMD, though not from social media nor the industry. The Tech Report looks at just how AMD handled this announcement to the industry and reveiw sites and details on what exactly happened.
"Following up on AMD's mass layoff announcement, TR's Scott Wasson reveals that the chipmaker has laid off virtually its entire public relations team, and he speculates about where the company is now heading."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Lion on a Hackintosh @ The Tech Report
- DIY spot welder can join anything together, even copper @ Hack a Day
- Weekend Project: Ensure a Hassle-Free Linux Upgrade @ Linux
- Mainstream desktop CPUs future evolution [Haswell, New Sockets, Enhancements...] @ VR-Zone
- Ubuntu 12.04 Developer Summit Summary @ Phoronix
- The 48GB DDR3 Weekend! @ ThinkComputers
- SiSoftware Sandra Lite 2012 Now Available on NGOHQ
- Weekly Giveaway #15: G.Skill 4GB DDR3 2133MHz Memory Kit @ eTeknix
- Real World Labs And Patriot Memory Joint Contest
Subject: General Tech, Processors | November 3, 2011 - 08:22 PM | Scott Michaud
Tagged: layoffs, amd
We have been discussing AMD’s condition and future outlook over most of recent memory. Since the lawsuit versus Intel and the subsequent trying by the Big Blue Giant: AMD’s apparent jab-haymaker combo of lawsuit-Sempron to push heavily in the consumer market seems to have been mostly dodged and countered by Intel. While this last quarter has been positive there is little time for positive press; AMD has, today, removed 1400 employees from their company.
There was a time that AMD said they could beat anything Intel could throw at them.
That means that what AMD is releasing now is as-good or better than where they thought CPUs would be.
Food for thought.
It is not very uncommon to see layoffs during restructuring in the 10% range when a new CEO enters a company. The sad part of restructuring is that there is often little consideration about which employees comprise that 10%; rather, their job descriptions. These layoffs in isolation do not say much about AMD’s health in the upcoming time but should tint in one way or another how to perceive their upcoming actions. Where the future is positive or negative depends on how this ties into that.
Subject: Editorial | November 3, 2011 - 05:44 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: x79, podcast, nvidia, Intel, hd6990m, gtx580m, earnings, amd, 6990m, 580m
PC Perspective Podcast #177 - 11/03/2011
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Subject: Graphics Cards | November 3, 2011 - 01:17 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, firepro, V4900, linux, turks
Workstation graphics cards tend to be significantly more expensive than their desktop counterparts, something the new AMD FirePro V4900 seeks to overcome. The card is available for less than $200 but still comes with the advantages of the FirePro series, workstation application certification, a three-year hardware warranty and greater technical support than with a desktop GPU. Performance wise, the benchmarks that Phoronix ran showed the card to be nicely between the V4800 and V5800 so perhaps not worth immediately running out and upgrading from the previous low end model but definitely worth considering for new machines.
"AMD is announcing today a new FirePro workstation graphics card. What is being announced is not a new ultra high-end creation, but instead it's a new entry-level graphics card to fit in between the FirePro V4800 and FirePro V5800 / V5900: it's the AMD FirePro V4900. The FirePro V4900 will retail for less than $200 USD while offering up some nice capabilities for the price. Here is a launch-day look at the FirePro V4900 along with the first Linux benchmarks of this latest AMD workstation graphics creation."
Here are some more Graphics Card articles from around the web:
- HIS Radeon HD 6870 IceQ 1GB @ Legion Hardware
- VTX3D Radeon HD6770 & HD6670 Streamer Edition @ Kitguru
- Catalyst 11.10 Windows 7 Driver Analysis @ Tweaktown
- Sapphire HD6970 Battlefield 3 Flex Edition @ Guru3D
- i3DSpeed, October 2011 @ iXBT Labs
- The Effect of GPU Memory on Surround & Stereo 3D Performance @ Hardware Canucks
- KFA2 GeForce GTX 580 Anarchy Edition SLI @ kitguru
Subject: General Tech | November 3, 2011 - 12:38 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: amd, vector computing, exascale, APU
Chuck Moore, CTO of AMD's Technology Group, gave a talk this week about AMD's plans for the future of their architecture. As you might conjecture the focus was on the further integration of the CPU and GPU, with an eye on power consumption. The hurdle he feels will be the tallest is the bandwidth for passing data back and forth between the two processors and he sees 3D stacks of memory sitting between the main system memory, the GPU and the CPU. Once developed he feels that the stacks of memory should be able to increase the amount of available communication bandwidth to the point where tasks can be handed smoothly back and forth between the two processors depending on which is more effective at certain tasks. Performance is not everything however, when The Register quotes Moore when he discusses the power requirements of a mid-range exascale class machine costing $200 million just to power and cool over a year, you begin to see the importance of bringing down power consumption and heat production.
"Because Advanced Micro Devices has not yet announced its 16-core "Interlagos" Opteron 6200 processors, it has to talk about something, and in situations like that, it is best to talk about the far-off future. And so AMD rounded up a bunch of its partners on Wednesday in San Francisco for a shindig to talk about the challenges of exascale computing."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- JPR Reports Q3 Graphics Numbers @ SemiAccurate
- Western Digital and Samsung will not supply hard drives to Taiwan channels in November @ DigiTimes
- Facebook's "Open Compute" Server tested @ AnandTech
- HIS Desperate Upgrade GPU Competition @ XSReviews
- HiTechLegion Founder's Birthday Contest
Subject: General Tech, Processors | November 2, 2011 - 05:55 PM | Scott Michaud
Tagged: overclock, bulldozer, amd
Remember back in September when Ryan was all excited about seeing AMD exceed Intel with their Liquid Helium-cooled overclock? 8.429 GHz bulldozed past the 8.309 GHz record set upon Intel’s Celeron and all rejoiced at AMD’s 130 MHz triumph. Well out with the old and in with the new: there is a new overclocking king and it goes by the name of -- well it is also the AMD FX-8150. That is irrelevant, however, as the new record (if validated before someone beats it too) has become 8.461 GHz.
Someone’s the new king in town… the current king.
The new world record was set by Andre Yang, an overclocked from Taiwan, with an ASUS Crosshair V Formula motherboard. Benchmarks were not possible as when you get overclocking to this level: successfully running CPU-Z just to query the specifications of a CPU is generally considered sufficiently stable to be qualified as an overclock. Do not be surprised if SuperPi blows a hole through your chassis. It was not stated which method of cooling was used to allow the processor to reach those specifications.
The Alienware M17x Giveth
Mobile graphics cards are really a different beast than the desktop variants. Despite have similar names and model numbers, the specifications vary greatly as the GTX 580M isn't equivalent to the GTX 580 and the HD 6990M isn't even a dual-GPU product. Also, getting the capability to do a direct head-to-head is almost always a tougher task thanks to the notebook market's penchant for single-vendor SKUs.
Over the past week or two, I was lucky enough to get my hands on a pair of Alienware M17x notebooks, one sporting the new AMD Radeon HD 6990M discrete graphics solution and the other with the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580M.
AMD Radeon HD 6990M on the left; NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580M on the right
Also unlike the desktop market - the time from announcement of a new mobile GPU product to when you can actually BUY a system including it tends to be pretty long. Take the two GPUs we are looking at today for example: the HD 6990M launched in July and we are only just now finally seeing machines ship in volume; the GTX 580M in June.
Well, problems be damned, we had the pair in our hands for a few short days and I decided to put them through the ringer in our GPU testing suite and added Battlefield 3 in for good measure as well. The goal was to determine which GPU was actually the "world's fastest" as both companies claimed to be.
Subject: Processors | November 1, 2011 - 02:48 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: bulldozer, a8-3850, thread scheduling, amd
Windows and to an extent other OSes are now familiar with Intel's HyperThreading and tend to be able to schedule threads in an optimized manner, but what about the eight 'cores' in the AMD A8-3850? The Tech Report found a way to test this and the results are conclusive; Windows 7 is not optimized properly for Bulldozer. The Bulldozer has two cores on each module, easy to see in the picture below. By playing with the core affinity via the command line you can run benchmarks using specific cores, to test the impact clustering together 4 threads in two modules versus spreading out the threads to one per module. As it turns out, there is a noticeable difference when you do set the processor to run with one thread in each cluster.
"Is an awareness of the shared nature of AMD's Bulldozer architecture the key to unlocking its performance? We investigate."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer on Asus Crosshair V @ The Inquirer
- DIY Guides: How To Install/Remove AMD Socket FM1 CPU and Heatsink @ PCSTATS
- AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer Tested - Windows 8 vs. Windows 7 Performance @ Frostytech
- Mobile CPU Comparison Guide @ TechARP
- CPU Performance Comparison Guide @ TechARP
- Intel Core i7 2700k @ kitguru
- Intel Core i7 2700k Flagship Showdown Review @ eTeknix
Subject: Graphics Cards, Processors | October 31, 2011 - 02:22 PM | Matt Baynum
Tagged: video, sandy bridge, Intel, bf3, battlefield 3, APU, amd
Everyone is playing Battlefield 3 these days; we even had a virtual LAN party this weekend where forum members and PC Perspective team members played from about 10am until well after 1am ET. We have done more than our fair share of Battlefield 3 articles as well including hardware performance on high end graphics cards, multi-GPU scaling and more.
We had some requests and questions about what was the lowest priced hardware you could play the game on and while we had run some tests on the GeForce 9800 GT, I decided to take a stab at running BF3 at its lowest settings with integrated graphics on Intel's Sandy Bridge processor and AMD's A-series APU. Here were our test settings:
We ran at a fairly low resolution of 1366x768 (both indicative of mobile resolutions as well as low-end hardware restrictions) and the Low in-game preset. As it turns out this was the level at which the A8-3850 Llano APU was able to maintain an average around 30 FPS while the Intel Core i3-2105 (both priced around $140) was able to reach only a third of that.
With both systems coming in at the ~$450 mark, this could qualify as the lowest priced PC that is capable of getting you into the BF3 action!
You can see our full comparison right here in this short video!