Almost Time! Battlefield 3 Release, Is Your Hardware Ready?
Subject: Graphics Cards | October 24, 2011 - 03:06 PM | Ryan Shrout
Tagged: radeon, nvidia, geforce, bf3, amd
I know that you might have Battlefield 3 overload by now, but I wanted to make sure you all remembered to take a look at our BF3 Performance Guide from a couple weeks back to make sure your PC is ready for what might be the most anticipated and talked about PC titles in years.
Here is a summary of the content we have written based on the game - make sure you know ALL of it so you can get your system prepared for the pending battle!!
- Battlefield 3 (BF3) System Build Guide - What you need to succeed
- Come see our easy suggestions for building a system for BF3 (or upgrading) based on your target resolution and quality settings.
- Battlefield 3 Beta Performance Testing and Image Quality Evaluation - Day 1
- We test quite a few graphics cards to see where your setup currently stands with Battlefield 3.
- More Battlefield 3 Beta Performance Results: GTX 460, Radeon HD 5850 and 9800 GT!
- We added some lower end cards to the performance article as well including the very popular 9800 GT.
- PCPer Live! Battlefield 3 Beta Party and Discussion @ 10:30pm EST
- You missed it, but it was fun and we are going to be doing more next weekend!
- Battlefield 3 Beta: Caspian Border Performance and Screenshots
- Come see the performance results from our 64-player testing on the Caspian Border map!
- Battlefield 3 (BF3) Beta Performance: Quality Preset and SLI Scaling
- Here you can see how performance scales from Ultra to High, Medium and Low presets as well as how much performance gain you can expect from SLI scaling.
Keep checking back at PC Perspective as we are planning on doing some more fun live streaming of our BF3 matches and be sure to sign up for the official PCPer "Fragging Frogs" platoon in Battlelog!
Podcast #175 - NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Launch, Intel Earnings, News of the week and more!
Subject: Editorial | October 20, 2011 - 09:17 PM | Ken Addison
Tagged: podcast, nvidia, Intel, amd, 3dvision, 3d vision
PC Perspective Podcast #175 - 10/20/2011
Join us this week as we talk about the NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Launch, Intel Earnings, News of the week and more!
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- 0:00:40 Introduction
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- http://twitter.com/ryanshrout and http://twitter.com/pcper
- 0:01:35 MSI Z68A-GD80 G3 LGA 1155 ATX Motherboard Review
- 0:07:02 3D Vision Gets Updated with LightBoost, Larger Panels and New Glasses
- 0:13:19 Corsair HX1050 Professional Series Power Supply Review
- 0:13:55 ASUS N55 Core i7 15.6-in Notebook Review: Can One Laptop Do It All?
- 0:15:44 Intel Reports Q3 2011 Earnings
- 0:26:15 This Podcast is brought to you by
MSI Computer , and their all new Sandy Bridge Motherboards!
- 0:27:20 Overclocking the next generation of Intel CPUs
- 0:31:05 ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe GEN3 Board Spotted with PCI Express 3.0 Support
- 0:32:45 Salt + electrons = 6x increase ialn HDD platter density?
- 0:37:38 AMD May Release 28nm 7000 HD Series GPU In December
- 0:41:35 EVGA Demos X79 Classified Motherboard at GeForce LAN 6
- 0:44:30 Not quite older than dirt; the microprocessor turns 40
- 0:48:05 Benchmarking Bulldozer and taking the GPU out of the picture
- 0:52:02 SandForce finally patches elusive 2200 series SSD controller bug. OCZ issues firmware, others soon to follow.
- 0:58:00 Jon Peddie sees IGPs dying in the next year
- 1:01:50 Hardware / Software Pick of the Week
- Ryan: "Take Ownership" tool
- Jeremy: Beefing up your laptop’s gaming chops with an external GPU
- Josh: For Thief lovers out there: http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/
- Allyn: Siri (fan boy)
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- Closing
Intel Reports Q3 2011 Earnings
Subject: Editorial | October 19, 2011 - 05:29 PM | Josh Walrath
Tagged: sandy bridge, Q3 2011, Intel, earnings, bulldozer, atom, amd
This should come as a shock to no one. Intel made a lot of money this past quarter. We again have seen new records in both gross revenue and net income. GAAP revenue for the quarter came in at an astounding $14.2 billion. Essentially that is the net revenue for AMD during a three year span. Net income is again impressive at $3.5 billion. In AMD terms that would be gross revenue for three quarters. Truly there is a tremendous disparity between the two companies who are very bitter rivals. It is no wonder AMD is starting to really fall behind.
All of the internal groups, except for one, have shown tremendous growth over the past year. Notebooks have really lead the charge as of late, but both desktop and server markets have shown very favorable growth for the company. Even the McAfee and Intel Communications divisions provided upwards of $1 billion to the bottom line. The only area that Intel is lagging in is the Atom line.
When we look at the product offerings of Intel in server, desktop, and notebook markets we see they have a sizeable advantage in both process technology and performance per watt. Intel has been shipping 32 nm chips for well over a year and a half. On the desktop this has translated to modestly priced processors that have a much smaller die size yet comparable (and even superior) performance to the AMD products which are much larger in size and more expensive to produce. On the server side we really have not seen AMD make any inroads since Intel took over that market in a big way once they released the QPI based designs which took away AMD’s last architectural advantages; HyperTransport and integrated memory controllers.
Read the rest of the article after the break.
The tragic comedy that is Bulldozer
Subject: General Tech | October 18, 2011 - 12:07 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: bulldozer, amd
It is hard to know exactly what to say about Bulldozer. It is not a complete fail for in multithreaded applications it sits in between the performance of the i5-2500 and i7-2600, which it was intended to. Power consumption at idle has been improved but not at load which hurts, but not as much as the poor single threaded performance which is far worse than we had hoped. SemiAccurate traced the long 5+ year history of the Bulldozer to see where AMD went astray from the dream that was. The length of the story is certainly a part of it, 5 years is too long for silicon to languish especially when part of the delay was due to problems with the 45nm process. Read on to hear about the struggles AMD underwent to get this chip to market as well as what corners were cut, or at least rounded, to get the chip on shelves.
"The story of Bulldozer and why it does what it does, both good and bad, can be summed up as death by 1000 cuts. There isn’t really any high point to the architecture, nor are there any really low points. To make matters worse, there isn’t any obvious smoking gun as to why things ended up so, well, meh. What you can get now, what you should have been able to get, and what you will be able to get from this new architecture is a long and complex story. Lets get started."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- Ultrabook players to adopt hybrid HDD to save cost @ DigiTimes
- Drawing Circuits in Conductive Ink @ MAKE:Blog
- SSL creator warns of further attacks @ The Inquirer
- iCloud on the Desktop: A Look at OS X 10.7.2 and iCloud for Windows @ AnandTech
- Apple iOS 5 @ AnandTech
AMD May Release 28nm 7000 HD Series GPU In December
Subject: Graphics Cards | October 15, 2011 - 12:34 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: amd, gpu, graphics card, southern islands, HD 7000
Tom’s Hardware reports that a source within AMD has indicated that the company may release their upcoming Southern Islands GPU earlier than expected. Previous rumors suggested that AMD would have their performance desktop graphics cards out in the first quarter of 2012 with the lower clocked and mobile processors coming out a bit sooner than that.
If this new information turns out to be true, we may be seeing the high performance desktop graphics cards released in limited quantities of 7000 to 10,000 units in December with a full rollout of the company’s 28nm graphics card lineup in the months following. Specifically, the first cards may be available as soon as December 6th, 2011. It remains to be seen whether or not the lower power cards will still be released before the high performance desktop cards.
Personally, I'm interested to see how AMD's approach with their Southern Islands GPU will match up against Nvidia's current and future (more) general purpose computing design. Are you excited for Southern Islands?
Podcast #174 - AMD FX Processor launch, New products from Corsair, Viewer Questions and more!
Subject: General Tech | October 14, 2011 - 12:02 AM | Ken Addison
Tagged: podcast, Intel, FX, corsair, bulldozer, amd
PC Perspective Podcast #174 - 10/13/2011
Join us this week as we talk about the AMD FX Processor launch, New products from Corsair, Viewer Questions and more!
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- 0:02:04 AMD FX-8150 Processor Review - Can Bulldozer Unearth an AMD Victory?
- 0:29:19 Video Perspective: AVADirect $1000 Gaming System Review
- 0:30:00 This Podcast is brought to you by
MSI Computer , and their all new Sandy Bridge Motherboards!
- 0:31:15 Corsair Releases High Capacity Force GT and Force 3 SSDs
- 0:33:00 Corsair Launches New H40 and H70 CORE Sealed Loop Water Coolers
- 0:35:23 Corsair Announces Availability of $139 Gaming PC Case
- 0:37:55 Samsung and Micron Developing Hybrid Memory Cube Technology
- 0:41:35 A quick and easy way to duplicate your drives
- 0:45:32 Email from Jeff about SSD slow down
- Email from Kent about SSD reviews
- 0:50:00 Hardware / Software Pick of the Week
- Ryan: Novatel Mifi Verizon 4G LTE
- Jeremy: MDK2HD!
- Josh: Sup Com and SC: FA on Steam now! Cheeeap. http://store.steampowered.com/sub/11732/
- Allyn: Sysinternals tools (namely Process Explorer)
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- Closing
Video coming soon!
Can't hide the Bulldozer
Subject: General Tech | October 12, 2011 - 05:52 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: bulldozer, amd, fx series, fx-8150
Not to imply that looking at more Bulldozer reviews is like rubbernecking as you pass an accident ... but there are some similarities. While it might not be as great a performer as we were hoping, the chance to finally see AMD's new architecture is still a great thing. A totally new way of looking at a CPU Core, a brand new style of overclocking and a processor that seems almost ahead of its time when you examine its multitasking capabilities is interesting even if it does not deliver the processing power that we hoped for. Check out The Tech Report's indepth report to see what they thought of its performance.
"AMD's "Bulldozer" processors are here, and we have a full and extensive review."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- Countdown to FX @ SemiAccurate
- The Bulldozer Review: AMD FX-8150 Tested @ AnandTech
- All AMD FX CPU Models @ Hardware Secrets
- AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer Gaming Performance Analysis @ Tweaktown
- AMD FX-8150 CPU Overclocking Review: A Bulldozer for Gamers? @ VR-Zone
- AMD FX 8150 AM3+ Bulldozer Processor Review @ eTeknix
- AMD FX-8150 CPU: Bulldozer @ Bjorn3D
- AMD FX-8150 Review @ OCC
- AMD FX (Bulldozer) Processors Explained @ eTeknix
- AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer Processor @ Benchmark Reviews
- MD FX-8150 (AM3+) 3.6GHz Bulldozer CPU @ Tweaktown
- AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer CPU Review @ Madshrimps
- AMD FX8150 CPU @ OC3D
- AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer 8 Core CPU Review @ TechwareLabs
- CPU Performance Comparison Guide @ TechARP
- Mobile CPU Comparison Guide @ TechARP
Bulldozer Impressions: That was... interesting
Subject: Editorial | October 12, 2011 - 08:45 AM | Josh Walrath
Tagged: GLOBALFOUNDRIES, fx-8150, bulldozer, am3+, amd, 32 nm
Huh.
I am pretty sure I am not the only person who has read these Bulldozer reviews (including Ryan's here at PC Perspective) and had that particular reaction. Bulldozer was supposed to bulldoze the competition. It turns out it barely outpaces its own predecessor, the Phenom II X6 1100T. In fact, in terms of IPC, the older Thuban architecture gives it a sound thrashing when both are clocked at 3.3 GHz. So why should I be impressed with this processor?
I guess the answer is… you shouldn’t. At least not yet. I distinctly remember back in November of 2007 being invited to Lake Tahoe to test and report about the first Phenom samples that were available for limited testing. We were not allowed to take the samples home with their new AM2+ based motherboards. When going over the results of the tests with Ryan (I was not part of PCPer at the time) we quickly saw that the 2.6 GHz Phenom was unable to keep up with the Core 2 Q6600 from Intel. This was a little surprising, as we expected the original Phenom to clean house due to its very forward looking architecture (HT, IMC, beefier FP/SIMD units, etc.). The original Phenom had its fair share of problems, to say the least. TDPs were very high, there was the revision B2 bug that was solved in B3, and due to the 65 nm process it did not nearly have as much cache as was needed to make it a more efficient product.
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The early bird gets the Bulldozer
Subject: Processors | October 12, 2011 - 12:44 AM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: fx-8150, FX, cpu, bulldozer, amd, 990fx
You've been waiting through years of rumour and innuendo but the day has finally arrive, AMD's brand new Bulldozer architecture is here. It is like nothing we've seen before in any chip based off of the venerable Athlon line, which has served dutifully for over a decade. Bulldozer takes AMD's vision of a dual core processor not as two cores sewn together, but more as Siamese twins which share vital resources and are so closely conjoined that you cannot truly say where one ends and the other begins. The Bulldozer core is exactly that, while only four Bulldozer cores exist they can handle eight integer execution units, and four shared 2 x 128 bit floating point/SIMD which is interpreted by your OS as 8 cores.
Implementing a new technology is not without its drawbacks. The Athlon/Phenom architecture has been perfected by AMD thanks to its long life, while the Bulldozer is brand new and they've already started polishing it into Piledriver which will we see in the not too distant future (especially compared to the wait for Bulldozer). That immaturity is shown in Ryan's review where he compares it clock for clock to a Phenom II. It gets worse when compared against SandyBridge as the Bulldozer can at most occaisonally equal the performance of an i7-2600K. The only saving grace is price when you look at heavily multi-threaded applications and there are not many out there.
However one benchmark cannot tell the whole story, which is why [H]ard|OCP released two reviews on Bulldozer which focus on different aspects of the chips performance. Start off with their look at the performance which will give you an idea of how the chip performs under normal circumstances with its power saving features enabled and overclocked with those features disabled. Then they head onto what most people are interested in, the gaming benchmarks. Theoretical and productivity software benchmarks are one thing but we've all got to have fun sometimes and for those moments the new FX chips don't look too bad at all ... unless you are a Civ V fan.
"Computer hardware enthusiasts have literally waited for years for AMD's Bulldozer architecture to come to market and we finally see this today in its desktop form, code named Zambezi, brand named AMD FX. In this article we share with you our analysis of Bulldozer's performance in synthetic benchmarks and desktop applications."
Here are some more Processor articles from around the web:
- AMD FX-8150 Processor Review - Bulldozer Arrives @ Legit Review
- AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer CPU Review @ Neoseeker
- AMD FX-8150 Black Edition Processor Launch Review vs Intel Core i7-2600K @ HardwareHeave
- AMD FX-8150, FX-8120, FX-6100 and FX-4170 @ Legion Hardware
- AMD FX-8150 - Bulldozer @ Overclockers.com
- AMD FX-8150 CPU Review: Can Bulldozer Raze The Playing Field? @ Hi Tech Legion
- AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 Processor Review @ Hardware Canucks
- AMD FX-8150, FX Series Reviewed - Bulldozer makes debut @ Techspot
- AMD FX 8150 Black Edition @ kitguru
- AMD's FX-8150 "Zambezi" CPU @ LostCircuits
Bulldozer Architecture
Introduction
Bulldozer. Since its initial unveiling and placement on the roadmap many have called the Bulldozer architecture the savior of AMD, the processor that would finally turn the tide back against Intel and its dominance in the performance desktop market. After quite literally YEARS of waiting we have finally gotten our hands on the Bulldozer processors, now called the AMD FX series of CPUs, and can report on our performance and benchmarking of the platform.
With all of the leaks surrounding the FX processor launch you might be surprised by quite a bit of our findings - both on the positive and the negative side of things. With all of the news in the past weeks about Bulldozer, now we can finally give you the REAL information.
- Bulldozer First Release and the State of 32nm AMD Parts
- AMD Bulldozer Processor hits 8.429 GHz - New World Record!
- AMD Bulldozer FX Processor Benchmarks Leaked
Before we dive right into the performance part of our story I think it is important to revisit the Bulldozer architecture and describe what makes it different than the Phenom II architecutre as well as Intel's Sandy Bridge design. Josh wrote up a great look at the architecture earlier in the year with information that is still 100% pertinent and we recount much of that writing here. If you are comfortable with the architeture design points, then feel free to skip ahead to the sections you are more interested in - but I recommend highly you give the data below a look first.
The below text was taken from Bulldozer at ISSCC 2011 - The Future of AMD Processors.
Bulldozer Architecture Revisited
Bulldozer brings very little from the previous generation of CPUs, except perhaps the experience of the engineers working on these designs. Since the original Athlon, the basic floor plan of the CPU architecture AMD has used is relatively unchanged. Certainly there were significant changes throughout the years to keep up in performance, but the 10,000 foot view of the actual decode, integer, and floating point units were very similar throughout the years. TLB’s increasing in size, more instructions in flight, etc. were all tweaked and improved upon. Aspects such as larger L2 caches, integrated memory controllers, and the addition of a shared L3 cache have all brought improvements to the architecture. But the overall data flow is very similar to that of the original Athlon introduced 14 years ago.
As covered in our previous article about Bulldozer, it is a modular design which will come in several flavors depending on the market it is addressing. The basic building block of the Bulldozer core is a 213 million transistor unit which features 2 MB of L2 cache. This block contains the fetch and decode unit, two integer execution units, a shared 2 x 128 bit floating point/SIMD unit, L1 data and instruction caches, and a large shared L2 unit. All of this is manufactured on GLOBALFOUNDRIES’ 32nm, 11 metal layer SOI process. This entire unit, plus 2 MB of L2 cache, is contained in approximately 30.9 mm squared of die space.
Continue reading our review of the AMD FX Processor (codenamed Bulldozer)!!







