Subject: Memory | August 20, 2016 - 01:25 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: X99, Samsung, ripjaws, overclocking, G.Skill, ddr4, Broadwell-E
Early this week at the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco, California G.Skill showed off new low latency DDR4 memory modules for desktop and notebooks. The company launched two Trident series DDR4 3333 MHz kits and one Ripjaws branded DDR4 3333 MHz SO-DIMM. While these speeds are not close to the fastest we have seen from them, these modules offer much tighter timings. All of the new memory modules use Samsung 8Gb chips and will be available soon.
On the desktop side of things, G.Skill demonstrated a 128GB (8x16GB) DDR4-3333 kit with CAS latencies of 14-14-14-34 running on a Asus ROG Rampage V Edition 10 motherboard with an Intel Core i7 6800K processor. They also showed a 64GB (8x8GB) kit clocked at 3333 MHz with timings of 13-13-13-33 running on a system with the same i7 6800K and Asus X99 Deluxe II motherboard.
G.Skill demonstrating 128GB DDR4-3333 memory kit at IDF 2016.
In addition to the desktop DIMMs, G.Skill showed a 32GB Ripjaws kit (2x16GB) clocked at 3333 MHz running on an Intel Skull Canyon NUC. The SO-DIMM had timings of 16-18-18-43 and ran at 1.35V.
Nowadays lower latency is not quite as important as it once was, but there is still a slight performance advantage to be had tighter timings and pure clockspeed is not the only important RAM metric. Overclocking can get you lower CAS latencies (sometimes at the cost of more voltage), but if you are not into that tedious process and are buying RAM anyway you might as well go for the modules with the lowest latencies out of the box at the clockspeeds you are looking for. I am not sure how popular RAM overclocking is these days outside of benchmark runs and extreme overclockers though to be honest.
Overclocking Innovation session at IDF 2016.
With regards to extreme overclocking, there was reportedly an "Overclocking Innovation" event at IDF where G.Skill and Asus overclocker Elmor achieved a new CPU overclocking record of 5,731.78 MHz on the i7 6950X running on a system with G.Skill memory and Asus motherboard. The company's DDR4 record of 5,189.2 MHz was not beaten at the event, G.Skill notes in its press release (heh).
Are RAM timings important to you when looking for memory? What are your thoughts on the ever increasing clocks of new DDR4 kits with how overclocking works on the newer processors/motherboards?
Subject: Memory | May 17, 2016 - 12:09 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: sodimm, ddr4, crucial ballistix sport
Crucial is releasing some new high end memory for gaming laptops and for those mobile devices which work for a living. The new Ballistix Sport LT DDR4 SODIMMs will start at speeds of 2400 MT/s and will be fully Intel XMP compatible assuming you system beleives in those DDR4 speeds; if not look for an update from the manufacturer. The SODIMMs will be available in sizes of up to 16GB per DIMM so you should be able to install quite a large pool of memory. They didn't offer up any pictures as this was being written but instead a Youtube video of how Ballistix memory is made, which you can see below.
Boise, ID, and Glasgow, UK, -- May 17, 2016 – Crucial, a leading global brand of memory and storage upgrades, today announced the availability of Ballistix® Sport LT DDR4 SODIMMs. Ideal for gamers and performance enthusiasts, the new modules accelerate gaming laptops and small form factor systems by packing faster speeds into every memory slot, enabling users to run demanding games and applications with ease.
With speeds starting at 2400 MT/s, Ballistix Sport LT SODIMMs offer better latencies, reduced load times, and improved frame rates with integrated graphics. The new modules also feature a sleek black PCB and digital camo design and support Intel® XMP 2.0 profiles for easy installation.
“We’re constantly seeking ways to empower gamers with affordable, easy-to-use products that help them gain that competitive, performance edge,” explained Jeremy Mortenson, product marketing manager, Crucial. “With new platforms supporting faster DDR4 SODIMMS coming to the market, the newest Ballistix SODIMM module does just that.”
The Ballistix Sport LT DDR4 SODIMM modules will be available for purchase at www.crucial.com and through select global partners. All Crucial memory is backed by a limited lifetime warranty Limited lifetime warranty valid everywhere except Germany, where warranty is valid for 10 years from date of purchase.
For more information about Ballistix memory, visit crucial.com/ballistix.
Subject: Memory | May 17, 2016 - 03:07 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: trident z, gskill, G.Skill Trident Z, ddr4
G.Skill recently updated its high end line of Trident Z DDR4 memory modules to add several new color options. While no new speed tiers are being introduced, the existing DIMMs with brushed aluminum silver colored modules with red and black accents will shortly be joined by new modules with 5 new color schemes including silver modules with white or black top bar accents or black modules with white, yellow, or silver accents.
There is nothing groundbreaking here, but it will certainly make putting together a build based around a particular color or theme a bit easier, and that is their goal as these new DIMMs are aimed at modders and enthusiasts who are the most likely group to be running windowed or open air type systems that can show off the internal hardware.
For those interested, the new colors will be available at the end of May. The memory kits in DDR4 3200 Mhz speeds (16GB to 128GB kits) of all timings will be available in the existing red and all the new color schemes. Users wanting the faster speed memory kits (e.g. DDR4 3400) will be limited to the red, white, and black accents (no orange or yellow top pieces on the heat spreader).
Subject: Processors | April 5, 2016 - 06:30 AM | Josh Walrath
Tagged: mobile, hp, GCN, envy, ddr4, carrizo, Bristol Ridge, APU, amd, AM4
Today AMD is “pre-announcing” their latest 7th generation APU. Codenamed “Bristol Ridge”, this new SOC is based off of the Excavator architecture featured in the previous Carrizo series of products. AMD provided very few hints as to what was new and different in Bristol Ridge as compared to Carrizo, but they have provided a few nice hints.
They were able to provide a die shot of the new Bristol Ridge APU and there are some interesting differences between it and the previous Carrizo. Unfortunately, there really are no changes that we can see from this shot. Those new functional units that you are tempted to speculate about? For some reason AMD decided to widen out the shot of this die. Those extra units around the border? They are the adjacent dies on the wafer. I was bamboozled at first, but happily Marc Sauter pointed it out to me. No new functional units for you!
This is the Carrizo shot. It is functionally identical to what we see with Bristol Ridge.
AMD appears to be using the same 28 nm HKMG process from GLOBALFOUNDRIES. This is not going to give AMD much of a jump, but from information in the industry GLOBALFOUNDRIES and others have put an impressive amount of work into several generations of 28 nm products. TSMC is on their third iteration which has improved power and clock capabilities on that node. GLOBALFOUNDRIES has continued to improve their particular process and likely Bristol Ridge is going to be the last APU built on that node.
All of the competing chips are rated at 15 watts TDP. Intel has the compute advantage, but AMD is cleaning up when it comes to graphics.
The company has also continued to improve upon their power gating and clocking technologies to keep TDPs low, yet performance high. AMD recently released the Godavari APUs to the market which exhibit better clocking and power characteristics from the previous Kaveri. Little was done on the actual design, rather it was improved process tech as well as better clock control algorithms that achieved these advances. It appears as though AMD has continued this trend with Bristol Ridge.
We likely are not seeing per clock increases, but rather higher and longer sustained clockspeeds providing the performance boost that we are seeing between Carrizo and Bristol Ridge. In these benchmarks AMD is using 15 watt TDP products. These are mobile chips and any power improvements will show off significant gains in overall performance. Bristol Ridge is still a native quad core part with what looks to be an 8 module GCN unit.
Again with all three products at a 15 watt TDP we can see that AMD is squeezing every bit of performance it can with the 28 nm process and their Excavator based design.
The basic core and GPU design look relatively unchanged, but obviously there were a lot of tweaks applied to give the better performance at comparable TDPs.
AMD is announcing this along with the first product that will feature this APU. The HP Envy X360. This convertible tablet offers some very nice features and looks to be one of the better implementations that AMD has seen using its latest APUs. Carrizo had some wins, but taking marketshare back from Intel in the mobile space has been tortuous at best. AMD obviously hopes that Bristol Ridge in the sub-35 watt range will continue to show fight for the company in this important market. Perhaps one of the more interesting features is the option for the PCIe SSD. Hopefully AMD will send out a few samples so we can see what a more “premium” type convertible can do with the AMD silicon.
The HP Envy X360 convertible in all of its glory.
Bristol Ridge will be coming to the AM4 socket infrastructure in what appears to be a Computex timeframe. These parts will of course feature higher TDPs than what we are seeing here with the 15 watt unit that was tested. It seems at that time AMD will announce the full lineup from top to bottom and start seeding the market with AM4 boards that will eventually house the “Zen” CPUs that will show up in late 2016.
Subject: Memory | March 14, 2016 - 04:04 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: crucial, ddr4, ddr4-2133
The price of DDR4 continues to come down from the stratosphere and into affordable territory, especially when you look at the kits lower their frequencies to allow you to buy a larger pool of RAM. The Crucial DDR4-2133 32GB kit is an example of this, albeit a strange one as they have opted for two DIMMs as opposed to four. The DDR4-2133 15-15-15-36-2T kit retails for ~$175 and has forgone heatspreaders, not a major problem as they are generally only useful for those who want flashy looking RAM. Unfortunately the price is a bit higher than some of the competition and from Hardware Canucks' testing the DIMMs really do not like to be overclocked. If you are still holding out on upgrading your system solely because of the price of DDR4, do a bit of shopping around as you may be in for a pleasant surprise.
"The Crucial DDR4-2133 32GB memory kit may look unassuming but its combination of huge capacity, good speeds, decent overclocking and a low price make for a perfect combination."
Here are some more Memory articles from around the web:
- Mushkin Redline DDR4 3000MHz 16GB @ eTeknix
- Patriot Viper 4 DDR4 3200MHz 16GB @ eTeknix
- HyperX Savage 2666Mhz 32GB Memory Review @ OCC
- G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3400 16GB Memory Review @ OCC
- Patriot Viper 4 DDR4 3200MHz 16GB @ eTeknix
Subject: Memory | January 31, 2016 - 10:00 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: Vengeance LPX, ddr4, corsair
Earlier this month Corsair released new DDR4 memory kits under its Vengeance LPX brand. The kits come in 32 GB, 64 GB, and 128 GB capacities and come bundled with a 40mm "Vengeance Airflow" RAM cooler.
At the top end, the 128 GB kit comes with eight 16 GB modules clocked at 3,000 MHz and with CAS latencies of 16-18-18-36. At stock speeds it is running at 1.35 volts. Stepping down to the lower capacities gets you faster DIMMs. Corsair has the 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) kit clocked at 3,333 MHz and runs at the same voltage and CAS latencies. The 64 GB kit does come with either black or red heat spreaders as well. Lastly, the 4 x 8 GB (32 GB) Vengeance LPX kit runs off of the same 1.35 volts but is clocked at 3,600 MHz (16-19-19-39 rated latencies). It also comes in black and red SKUs.
The memory kits are available now and are currently priced a bit below their MSRPs at Newegg. The 32 GB kit is $340 and the 64 GB kit is $526. Finally, the 3,000 MHz 128 GB kit will set you back $982. These prices seem more competitive than the last time I looked at DDR4, and there certainly does seem tot be some room for overclocking (especially on that 128 GB kit) so long as the motherboard can handle it!
Subject: Memory | January 18, 2016 - 01:45 AM | Tim Verry
Tagged: xmp, X99, Ripjaws V, G.Skill, ddr4
G.Skill is adding a new DDR4 memory kit to its Ripjaws V series aimed at the Intel X99 platform. The new kit is comprised of eight matching 16 GB DIMMs for a total of 128 GB. Supporting Intel's XMP 2.0 standard, it comes stock clocked at 3,000 MHz with CAS latencies of 14-14-14-34.
The DDR4 kit is rated at 1.35V and will feature red or black aluminum heat spreaders in line with the company's other products. G.Skill claims that this is the world's fastest 128 GB kit running at 1.35 volts, and looking around the Internet this appears to be true. Corsair does have a Vengeance LPX kit that matches it in clockspeeds, but it has higher timings (higher latency) than G.Skill's modules.
Eight 16GB DIMMs is a lot of memory to be sure, and it is not going to come cheap. It will surely come in handy though for high performance workstations that need all the memory they can get.
G.Skill will be releasing the new DDR4 kit towards the end of January. It has not yet revealed official pricing, but going off of pricing for it's 64GB kit and the 128GB competition, I would expect it to fall around $850 to $900 USD.
What would you do with 128GB of system memory? I know that I would make one heck of a RAM Disk out of it!
Subject: Memory | December 22, 2015 - 03:16 PM | Jeremy Hellstrom
Tagged: Z170, ddr4, ddr3
In Hardware Canucks recent review, they delve into the differences between running DDR3 versus DDR4 on Intel Z170 boards, which come in two versions each of which is compatible with one of the two types of memory. They start out with a high level overview of the differences between the two memory technologies as there is more than just a simple difference in frequencies. After covering some of the specifications which might influence your decision they then delve into the performance numbers.
One system is based on the Gigabyte Z170-HD3 with 8GB of Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3 while the second system uses an ASUS Maximus VIII Impact with Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, both systems use the Core i7 6700K processor. The middle of the chart is the most interesting feature, where both memory kits are running at 2400MHz albeit at different timings. DDR4 does come out on top but the margins are so close that if you need to shave some money off of your planned build you should definitely at least consider DDR3.
"Intel's Skylake architecture is the only one that supports both DDR3 and DDR4 memory. But with all other things being equal, is one really "better" than the other on the Z170 platform?"
Here are some more Memory articles from around the web:
- G.Skill TridentZ 3200MHz DDR4 16GB (2x8GB) @ eTeknix
- PNY AnarchyX 2800MHz DDR4 16GB (4x4GB) @ eTeknix
- Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-2666 16GB Memory Kit Review @ OCIA
- GSKill TridentZ 3466Mhz CL16 DDR4 Dual Channel Memory Review @ Hardware Asylum
Subject: Memory | November 26, 2015 - 05:23 PM | Scott Michaud
Tagged: TSV, Samsung, enterprise, ddr4
You may remember Allyn's article about TSV memory back from IDF 2014. Through this process, Samsung and others are able to stack dies of memory onto a single package, which can increase density and bandwidth. This is done by punching holes through the dies and connecting them down to the PCB. The first analogy that comes to mind is an elevator shaft, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Anyway, Samsung has been applying it to enterprise-class DDR4 memory, which leads to impressive capacities. 64GB sticks, individual sticks, were introduced in 2014. This year, that capacity doubles to 128GB. The chips are fabricated at 20nm and each contain 8Gb (1GB) per layer. Each stick contains 36 packages of four chips.
At the end of their press release, Samsung also mentioned that they intend to expand their TSV technology into “HBM and consumer products.”
Subject: Motherboards | October 28, 2015 - 08:38 PM | Tim Verry
Tagged: Z170, Skylake, Maximus VIII Extreme, e-atx, ddr4, ASUS ROG, asus
Motherboards supporting Intel’s latest “Skylake” processor have been trickling out for months, and ASUS is no stranger to the Z170 chipset. After several months of waiting, its flagship motherboard is now available under the Republic of Gamers brand. The ROG Maximus VIII Extreme is a monster both in size – it’s an E-ATX board – and features. It’s not cheap though with an MSRP of $499.
The Maximus VIII Extreme is clad in black and red with silver capacitors. A massive heatsink keeps the Extreme Engine Digi+ power delivery hardware cool even under heavy overclocking conditions. Nested between the VRMs and the four DDR4 slots (up to 3866MHz) is the LGA 1151 processor socket. This motherboard can be used with the OC Panel II hardware overclocking module which can sit outside the case or in a 5.25” drive bay. There are also overclocking buttons on the top-right corner of the board itself.
Storage options include eight SATA 6Gbps ports (two SATA Express), a M.2, and a separate U.2 MVMe connector. Networking is handled by Intel Gigabit Ethernet (1219-V) and a 3x3 802.11ac WiFi NIC. ASUS is further including its SupremeFX 8-channel audio chipset.
When it comes to PCI-E expansion, this board delivers with four PCI-E 3.0 x16 slots (which can run at x16/x8/x8/x4) and two PCI-E 3.0 x1 slots.
Rear I/O includes:
- 4 x USB 3.0
- 4 x USB 3.1 (3 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
- 6 x USB 2.0
- 1 x Gigabit Ethernet
- 5 x Analog Audio
- 1 x S/PDIF optical audio out
- 1 x DisplayPort
- 1 x HDMI
- 1 x PS/2 combo port
- 3 x Wi-Fi antenna connectors
- 1 x Clear CMOS + 1 x BIOS Flashback button
Needless to say this board has everything but the kitchen sink (though that might be unlocked with a BIOS update...) in it. It is squarely aimed at extreme overclockers and gamers wanting to run triple or quad multi-GPU setups along with Intel’s latest Skylake CPU. The flagship hardware will cost you though, with street prices just under $500 USD. If you’re interested in this beast, keep an eye out for reviews (which appear to be scarce at the moment).